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Old 06-11-2003, 08:45 PM
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New Car & Driver... INSANE!!!

Look at the #'s on these cars:

Ferrari Enzo: 0-60 in 3.3s; 1/4- mile in 11.2 @ 136!!
Saleen S7: 0-60 in 3.3s; 1/4-mile in 11.6 @ 126!!
Murcielago (damn slowest!!): 0-60 in 3.8s; 1/4-mile in 12.6 @ 116.

Keep in mind that the CL55 (AMG) does the 1/4-mile in 12.6 @ 116 as well!!

Future entries:

Mercedes Benz CL65 AMG: 0-60 in 3.9 (that's a 4-seater!!)
Bugatti EB16.4 (16-cylinder 4-turbos!!) and 987hp... SHIT!!
Koenigsegg CC: 0-60 in like 3.2s...

DAMN!!!

Well.. okay, by 2005 there will be a CL Type-S running 10's
*wishing*
Old 06-11-2003, 08:54 PM
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Yeah, it's a great issue. I still can't get over the $732 oil change for the Enzo.
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What are you talkin about 2005, mine runs 10 secs right now. Except I haven't made it as far (maybe 1/5 or 1/6 of a mile in 10 secs). Hah, but I can change my own oil.
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this should make ur accomplishment w/the turbo even more gratifying, after viewing these numbers. For under $40k, you made a car that had style, luxury, speed, and fwd run 12s and prob even better if it wasn't for traction issues
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Re: New Car & Driver... INSANE!!!

Originally posted by allmotor_2000
Look at the #'s on these cars:

Ferrari Enzo: 0-60 in 3.3s; 1/4- mile in 11.2 @ 136!!
Saleen S7: 0-60 in 3.3s; 1/4-mile in 11.6 @ 126!!
Murcielago (damn slowest!!): 0-60 in 3.8s; 1/4-mile in 12.6 @ 116.

Keep in mind that the CL55 (AMG) does the 1/4-mile in 12.6 @ 116 as well!!

Future entries:

Mercedes Benz CL65 AMG: 0-60 in 3.9 (that's a 4-seater!!)
Bugatti EB16.4 (16-cylinder 4-turbos!!) and 987hp... SHIT!!
Koenigsegg CC: 0-60 in like 3.2s...

DAMN!!!

Well.. okay, by 2005 there will be a CL Type-S running 10's
*wishing*
Mclaren F1 still owns them in top speed! :pfawk: 250mph!
Old 06-11-2003, 09:34 PM
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i spend two hours reading those magazine at barns and noble the other day. Great cars. Enzo!! SL500, S7, etc...
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Re: Re: New Car & Driver... INSANE!!!

Originally posted by torquey
Mclaren F1 still owns them in top speed! :pfawk: 250mph!
I've read that the Enzo handles much better at top speeds, though.

EDIT: Too bad it's ass-ugly.
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And I'd still take the Murcielago.
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if u can afford an enzo, u're not worried about a puny $732 oil change
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what does the enzo top out at??
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Can I change the oil for $732? Ah I mean I will do the oil change myself!
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$10,000 superbike will beat them all!

It is a brand new bike too!
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Re: Re: New Car & Driver... INSANE!!!

Originally posted by torquey
Mclaren F1 still owns them in top speed! :pfawk: 250mph!

actually it's about 240.
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Originally posted by darrinb
what does the enzo top out at??

right about at 220
Old 06-12-2003, 12:29 AM
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Id take an enzo over a murcialogo any day of the week, i think the thing is realy hot, while the murcilago is just....so so....but thats just my opinion.
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i think i can take the enzo in the 1/4 mile

i just need a HUGE hole shot
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I think even if we get an 1/8th mile handicap, we'd lose!
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well if he goes like 5.0 on the r/t time i'd get him on the hole shot
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The current auto industry is fulled of these crazy price and horsepower wars, let me just list the car with the highest horsepower output from each auto company:

Super expensive group:
Ferrari Enzo(~$650,000;650hp)
Porsche Carrera GT(~$400,000;612hp)
Lamborghini Murcielago($281,000;575hp)
Bentley GT Coupe($350,000;500hp)
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish($234,000;460hp)

Expensive group:
Dodge Viper SRT-10($79,900;500hp)
Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG($119,000;493hp)
Audi RS6($82,700;450hp)
Chevrolet Corvette Z06($51,300;405hp)
BMW M5($71,000;394hp)
Maserati Coupe($78,000;390hp)
Jaquar S-TYPE R($62,000;390hp)
Lotus Esprit V8 Coupe($90,800;350hp)
Acura NSX($89,000;290hp)

Affordable group:
Subaru Impreza WRX STI($30,000;300hp)
Nissan 350Z(~$30,000;287hp)
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution($29,000;271hp)
Mazda RX-8(~$27,000;247hp)

There are rumors about next BMW M5 of having V10 engine pumping out 500 plus horsepower so that should push it up the expensive group several spaces.....Subaru and Mitsubishi have done their best of providing us young people two excellent relatively affordable sport cars........If Nissan/Infiniti could come up with a 400+hp GTR that would motivate Honda/Acura to debut its next NSX better and earlier would it? Afterall a sport car with 290hp doesn't justify its $89,000 price right, no matter how sexy it still looks......Toyota/Lexus is really lacking a super high performace sport car, come on, Celica and SC430 are not that impressive, at least bring a new Supra here to compete against 350Z......
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lol props for compiling the list
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Enzo for me...

The CL65 will be sick...
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My next door neighbor just got a candy red Murcialgo (he says there are only 3 of that color in the U.S). It is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Motivates me sooo much to work my ass off so I could afford one one day!!!

P.S. His "everyday" car in an F355 Spider F1!!
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Mmm...Spider!
I'm working my ass off to get to a $75,000 E55. I can pimp and haul ass at the same time...
Ah to dream...
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Re: Re: New Car & Driver... INSANE!!!

Originally posted by torquey
Mclaren F1 still owns them in top speed! :pfawk: 250mph!
I think the 917 long tail Sunoco did 0 to 100 back to 0 in under 6 seconds.
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Originally posted by 2K2SilverTL-S
My next door neighbor just got a candy red Murcialgo (he says there are only 3 of that color in the U.S). It is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. Motivates me sooo much to work my ass off so I could afford one one day!!!

P.S. His "everyday" car in an F355 Spider F1!!
Damn... where do you live and why are you driving a CL?
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Originally posted by r10apple
Mmm...Spider!
I'm working my ass off to get to a $75,000 E55. I can pimp and haul ass at the same time...
Ah to dream...
Now thats what I'm talking about! I am gonna start saving for that sucker soon and use the TLS as part of the down payment for that baby! 12.4 @ 117mph!!! all that speed and lux for only 75k!
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This will beat them all:



It is a 300 WHP on the rear single wheel... Yeah Boosted Bike.. read the full story here: http://www.speeddemons.com/boost.phtml
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Silver, you left out the Cobra, $35k for 390+ HP since it performs like it actually has more than that.

One gripe: VW makes the Bugatti Veyron, it will be produced and sold, wth 16 cylinders AND turbos, bit Caddy makes an N/A V16, as a concept for a car show, and they are called typical boorish American overkill by the media. Bullshit, I like how the GERMANS(!) can do no evil
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
This will beat them all:
I never understood comparing bikes to cars, completely two different things.


Also, I see above.....since when is the new Bentley GT going to cost $350k? I could have sworn the base price has been released (either was $149k or $160k).
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It's $350k after you drop your golded colored spinning Sprewell's, fuscia interiorisis and tv/dvdisis/Cristal...
<j/k>
I thought the new GT started at $190k?
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
This will beat them all:



It is a 300 WHP on the rear single wheel... Yeah Boosted Bike.. read the full story here: http://www.speeddemons.com/boost.phtml
good god that is sick. those guys are brave for even riding those things...what happened to the video of the 16-17 psi turbobusa?
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
This will beat them all:



It is a 300 WHP on the rear single wheel... Yeah Boosted Bike.. read the full story here: http://www.speeddemons.com/boost.phtml
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I am very pleased Saleen went head to head and is a very credible car against the typical Euro exotics. I think it has the best interior.
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Originally posted by r10apple

I'm working my ass off to get to a $75,000 E55.Ah to dream...
Hey I am working my ass off for this damn CL

Hey Allmotor, let me know if I can assist you in your 10sec quest. I can at least get you a sticker that says "Turbo by GARRETT"
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