New 6speed Accord gets best engine award, C&D's tenbest, and + forbes review
12-10-2002, 05:07 PM
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New 6speed Accord gets best engine award, C&D's tenbest, and + forbes review
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Well the jury is still out on the new Accord's styling, but it seems as if everyone loves the car once they have driven it. For example:
It just made one of 2003 Car and Drivers 10best...its now the 17th yr its done this out off 22yrs since this awrd was conceived.
And it has also earned a spot on wards 10 best engines of 2003, heres the entire list:
Lastly, Forbes.com reviewed the new accord 6speed and seem to really like it alot....forbe's 6speed review ...this is interesting b/c Forbes usually isn't crazy abt under 30k cars...however, in this case, they say that the new 6speed tranny is better than the shifter on a Bmw 3series & the best manual under 30k
Not bad but the reason why I bring this up is b/c I think honda has something big for the Tl and hopefully the Cl as well since these cars all derive off the accord platform
Well the jury is still out on the new Accord's styling, but it seems as if everyone loves the car once they have driven it. For example:
It just made one of 2003 Car and Drivers 10best...its now the 17th yr its done this out off 22yrs since this awrd was conceived.
And it has also earned a spot on wards 10 best engines of 2003, heres the entire list:
Engine (and tested vehicle)
* BMW AG 3L DOHC I-6 (330i)
* BMW AG 3.2L DOHC I-6 (M3)
* DaimlerChrysler AG 5.7L OHV Hemi Magnum V-8 (Dodge Ram HD)
* Ford Motor Co. 6L Power Stroke OHV Turbodiesel V-8 (F-Series Super
Duty)
* General Motors Corp. 4.2L DOHC I-6 (Chevrolet TrailBlazer)
* Honda Motor Co. Ltd. 2L DOHC I-4 (Acura RSX Type S)
* Honda Motor Co. Ltd. 3L SOHC V-6 (Accord EX)
* Mini 1.6L supercharged DOHC I-4 (Mini Cooper S)
* Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Infiniti G35 coupe)
* Volkswagen AG 1.8L turbocharged DOHC I-4 (Golf Gti 1.8T)
* BMW AG 3L DOHC I-6 (330i)
* BMW AG 3.2L DOHC I-6 (M3)
* DaimlerChrysler AG 5.7L OHV Hemi Magnum V-8 (Dodge Ram HD)
* Ford Motor Co. 6L Power Stroke OHV Turbodiesel V-8 (F-Series Super
Duty)
* General Motors Corp. 4.2L DOHC I-6 (Chevrolet TrailBlazer)
* Honda Motor Co. Ltd. 2L DOHC I-4 (Acura RSX Type S)
* Honda Motor Co. Ltd. 3L SOHC V-6 (Accord EX)
* Mini 1.6L supercharged DOHC I-4 (Mini Cooper S)
* Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Infiniti G35 coupe)
* Volkswagen AG 1.8L turbocharged DOHC I-4 (Golf Gti 1.8T)
Not bad but the reason why I bring this up is b/c I think honda has something big for the Tl and hopefully the Cl as well since these cars all derive off the accord platform
12-10-2002, 08:28 PM
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Collective, I agree w/u brotha
The tranny in the 6speed manual and accord are nearly identical....however, one thing the forbes testers do not mention is the clutch in the accord v6....i find it kinda weird since most peeps who test it note the "touchy" clutch on the 6speed Cl but in tis case not in the accord...maybe the accord has a diff clutch
The tranny in the 6speed manual and accord are nearly identical....however, one thing the forbes testers do not mention is the clutch in the accord v6....i find it kinda weird since most peeps who test it note the "touchy" clutch on the 6speed Cl but in tis case not in the accord...maybe the accord has a diff clutch
12-10-2002, 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by Collective27
I just dont understand why this gets all the credit...does anyone realize that this same shifter is the one on our cars, and ours came first
I just dont understand why this gets all the credit...does anyone realize that this same shifter is the one on our cars, and ours came first
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Originally posted by frryy
i guess since the accord is under 30k....maybe thats the reason for all the fuss?
i guess since the accord is under 30k....maybe thats the reason for all the fuss?
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12-11-2002, 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS
The accord will always get more press than the CL even though the CL-S has 260hp mated w/ a 6 speed transmisson may be its the i-vtec
The accord will always get more press than the CL even though the CL-S has 260hp mated w/ a 6 speed transmisson may be its the i-vtec
12-11-2002, 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by EdgarFanCLS
Is this also the engine in the Audi 1.8T?
Is this also the engine in the Audi 1.8T?
what's even more amazing is that Honda can get 200+hp out of a 2.0L engine without turbo charging.
OK - so it's not as torquey but trick none-the-less. 
12-11-2002, 11:39 AM
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I wonder what criteria they used to came up with that ranking of engines. I imagine if it was part drivability they would have to take into account the transmission as part of the package.
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Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS
The accord will always get more press than the CL even though the CL-S has 260hp mated w/ a 6 speed transmisson may be its the i-vtec
The accord will always get more press than the CL even though the CL-S has 260hp mated w/ a 6 speed transmisson may be its the i-vtec
12-11-2002, 01:03 PM
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Ok, so why do they have the M3 engine on this list when there are lawsuits pending because of so many failures? How good is an engine if it can't be revved to redline?
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12-11-2002, 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by VeeDubDude
yes it is. my 99 A4 had the 150hp version of this engine. it's now 170 and 180 in different Audi/VW models. i think a TT version might even be rated at 200+. it was sweet engine. it pulled from 1,500 RPM like a banshee all the way up to redline. smooth. fuel efficient. amazing piece of work for only 1.8L of displacement.
what's even more amazing is that Honda can get 200+hp out of a 2.0L engine without turbo charging. OK - so it's not as torquey but trick none-the-less.
yes it is. my 99 A4 had the 150hp version of this engine. it's now 170 and 180 in different Audi/VW models. i think a TT version might even be rated at 200+. it was sweet engine. it pulled from 1,500 RPM like a banshee all the way up to redline. smooth. fuel efficient. amazing piece of work for only 1.8L of displacement.
what's even more amazing is that Honda can get 200+hp out of a 2.0L engine without turbo charging.
OK - so it's not as torquey but trick none-the-less.
Yes same turbocharged 20valve 1.8T 4banger found in the
Golf/Jetta/Passat/Beetle/A3,S3/A4/TT
It's 225hp in the Quattro TT
a 24v VR6 TT is on it's way though (same powertrain in the GTI R32)
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cnatra, do u know how much hp the 1.8 can handle before having internals changed? or max boost psi on stock internals, compared 2 stock psi? thanks brotha
12-11-2002, 11:08 PM
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cnatra, do u know how much hp the 1.8 can handle before having internals changed? or max boost psi on stock internals, compared 2 stock psi? thanks brotha
cnatra, do u know how much hp the 1.8 can handle before having internals changed? or max boost psi on stock internals, compared 2 stock psi? thanks brotha
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