Are the new 2002 CLS 6-speed sticks in yet? Are they the same price as the 2001 CLS were, 30k flat?
BTW how much could I get from the dealer for a trade in of my 2001 CLS, mint cond., for the 2002. I plan on trading it in to the dealer I once bought it from, to purchase a 2002 CLS from them, if thats any help.

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At first I thought that 6Speed CL was due out now but members of this board informed me it would be spring 2002 or even released as a 2003 in about a year. Why do you think it's being released now?

I can't blame you for wanting to trade-out. Not only is the 6 speed a much better set-up but the cost-cutting on the CL seems to be showing up in transmission problems and other things. Sure all cars have problems but I wonder if this conveys a change in Honda's reliability, due to decontenting and cost cutting to compete. My Legend has had no major problems but it stickered for $42k in 95, which would equal to what, $50k today, not $30k. I'd vote to take some more items out of the CL and bring up quality as a trade-off, or raise the price and bring quality back up to Honda historical standards. That's why I buy Honda products, reliability, and I'll pay a little more for it too.
Transmissions should not go out in any car under 100k mi, and in a Honda at 10 and 15k mi.? Forget it. I'll get a Ford Taurus for and save $10,000! ok, I'm done.(for now)