Needin to replace engine cradle...
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Cruisin'
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Needin to replace engine cradle...
Are the subframes between the 00-03 autos the same as a subframe in the 03 cls 6mt?
when i say engine cradle/subframe, im referring to the rear crossmember that the steering rack is attached to...
i checked part numbers on acuraoemparts.com and of course theyre different... but still wondering if theyre interchangeable.
when i say engine cradle/subframe, im referring to the rear crossmember that the steering rack is attached to...
i checked part numbers on acuraoemparts.com and of course theyre different... but still wondering if theyre interchangeable.
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The short answer is
for the part # reasons you state above. With that said, the thread below has alot of good detailed info that may aid any decisions going forward, 
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https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...ed-out-931595/
The short answer is
for the part # reasons you state above. With that said, the thread below has alot of good detailed info that may aid any decisions going forward, .https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...ed-out-931595/
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Cruisin'
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I decided to investigate more, apparently according to part numbers the radius rods are different between CLS auto and CLS Manual, but TLS autos are the same as CLS manuals. I pulled my passenger side radius rod and compared it to the radius rod from a CL Premium and its identical.
Im going to attempt to find a CLS manual radius rod (only $60 new) and see if its different at all.
Im going to attempt to find a CLS manual radius rod (only $60 new) and see if its different at all.
I decided to investigate more, apparently according to part numbers the radius rods are different between CLS auto and CLS Manual, but TLS autos are the same as CLS manuals. I pulled my passenger side radius rod and compared it to the radius rod from a CL Premium and its identical.
Im going to attempt to find a CLS manual radius rod (only $60 new) and see if its different at all.
Im going to attempt to find a CLS manual radius rod (only $60 new) and see if its different at all.
This is what I found:
Radius Rods; 01-03 CL-P and TL-P
51352-S0K-A01; right
51362-S87-A02; left
Radius Rods; 01-03 CL-S Auto; CL-S6 and 02-03 TL-S Auto
51352-S3M-A01; right
51362-S3M-A01; left
Cross Beams; 01-03 CL-P and TL-P
50200-S0K-A01; rear
50250-S87-A00; front
Cross Beams; 01-03 CL-S Auto and 02-03 TL-S Auto
50200-S0K-A01; rear
50250-S3M-A00; front
Cross Beams; 03 CL-S 6-speed
50200-S3M-A01; rear
50250-S3M-A50 front
It is my guess that if you have a CL-S 6 speed and the front and/or rear beam is rusted/cracked/bent et al. and you can't find either at a salvage yard, for the CL-S6, you can technically use the front and rear cross beams from an Auto CL-S TL-S. However, you will lose the front and rear mounting points, at the beams, for the engine mount dampers included only on the CL-S6. Otherwise, I can't think of any other differences that would not allow one to interchange those cross beams with the 6-speed due to availability for a used part.
Last edited by zeta; Dec 6, 2017 at 08:30 AM.
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Cruisin'
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This is what I found:
Radius Rods; 01-03 CL-P and TL-P
51352-S0K-A01; right
51362-S87-A02; left
Radius Rods; 01-03 CL-S Auto; CL-S6 and 02-03 TL-S Auto
51352-S3M-A01; right
51362-S3M-A01; left
Cross Beams; 01-03 CL-P and TL-P
50200-S0K-A01; rear
50250-S87-A00; front
Cross Beams; 01-03 CL-S Auto and 02-03 TL-S Auto
50200-S0K-A01; rear
50250-S3M-A00; front
Cross Beams; 03 CL-S 6-speed
50200-S3M-A01; rear
50250-S3M-A50 front
It is my guess that if you have a CL-S 6 speed and the front and/or rear beam is rusted/cracked/bent et al. and you can't find either at a salvage yard, for the CL-S6, you can technically use the front and rear cross beams from an Auto CL-S TL-S. However, you will lose the front and rear mounting points, at the beams, for the engine mount dampers included only on the CL-S6. Otherwise, I can't think of any other differences that would not allow one to interchange those cross beams with the 6-speed due to availability for a used part.
03 CL type s manual
51352-S3M-A01 / Rod, R Front Radius
51362-S3M-A01 / Rod, L Front Radius
03 CL type s auto
51352-S0K-A01 / Rod, R Front Radius
51362-S87-A02 / Rod, L Front Radius
01 CL type s
51352-S0K-A01 / Rod, R Front Radius
51362-S87-A02 / Rod, L Front Radius
01 CL prem
51352-S0K-A01 / Rod, R Front Radius
51362-S87-A02 / Rod, L Front Radius
i know the differences between the front/rear beams from the link you posted. I'm not too worried about that anymore.
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If you are doing radius rod work and want to 'upgrade' over the soft stock bushings, try the ones on the link below:
Front Strut Arm Bushings - Honda Accord - 16.7103
They fit the CL-S6 and help to stiffen up the front suspension.
https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...s-poll-827945/
If you are doing radius rod work and want to 'upgrade' over the soft stock bushings, try the ones on the link below:
Front Strut Arm Bushings - Honda Accord - 16.7103
They fit the CL-S6 and help to stiffen up the front suspension.
https://acurazine.com/forums/second-...s-poll-827945/
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I recently looked at a 6-speed and auto to compare the sub frames and the only difference I noticed with the naked eye was that the 6-speeds have 2 additional damper mounts whereas the autos did not. Sorry if this info is different than what you are asking, just sharing what I noticed. Hope this helps!
