330RWHP

Do you have a link to the vid?

Pull_T

Are you racing against Car & Driver test pilots or something?

numbaonestunna

Good to hear... get it on video. This I want to see. And I was just wondering if you thought your car was FASTER than the Cobra, and similar to the Z06. That was the question. Not you vs the driver, your modded CL vs the Cobra...

330RWHP

Hey Zoot or anybody else, why haven't you answered my questions? WHAT DO YOU RUN AT THE TRACK???

Pull_T

Bone stock CLS runs 14.6-14.9

What all you have on that 96 to get that power? I'd guess the full boat........ported PI or FRRP heads, LTs, cams, o/r pipe, etc....

Zootking

330...I ran a 14.0@109...mad traction issues with these stock tires...hopefully with a decent set and some good 60' times it will be low 13's-high 12's...

330RWHP

wow...I'm impressed. You actually have a clue about Mustang upgrades . What car do you have? I do have LTs, o/r H-pipe, MagnaFlows and a bit more under the hood . But I can't get it to the ground. I have bald crappy tires and 2:73s in the rear. No more money for upgrades right now. Gotta save for the 2 tickets I'll be getting notices for in the mail anyday now

Lets just say, looking at my car, you wouldn't expect much, but if I launch w/ little spin, I have no probs w/ LS1s or even stock TT Supras and 300ZXs:
My Car

330RWHP

I can tell you spun a lot by how high you trap at. Dont get your hopes up about tires dropping you ETs that much, unless you plan on running BFG drag radials or ET Streets. Either one, you'll have to drop the psi quite a bit and will more than likely snap a halfshaft. With Nitto DRs, I would expect you to see 13.4-13.6 @ 105ish.

Pull_T

So you don't have any head/valvetrain work?

I drive a 98 Cobra with an S-Trim.

Zootking

330....thats funny you mention stock TT Supra's and LS-1's, we have a guy in our group with a BPU Supra, and him and I have done some highway pulls and he doesnt pull on me til 115ish, and even then its not by much....also, i stuck it to a 2001 Z28 w/bolt-on's and exhaust the other day....he was so shocked, i just laughed cause i knew i could take him....believe me this little incident hasnt made me cocky at all cause there's tons more out there that can kill me....its just nice to be able to hang with the big boys (V8's) sometimes

cusdaddy

Go to: http://www.undergroundracing.com/video/video.htm

NOScobra2001

this is the guy with the 01 cobra with spray. first off let me start with that torrey is a cool guy, and anyone that is his true friend should be considered lucky. i have not once talked sh*t about him behind his back and he has never been an a**hole to my face. i cant say for 100% that he hasnt talked sh*t about me behind my back, at least i dont think he has. torrey beat me fair and square in that race. im sick of hearing all this crap on not one but 4 forums. when we ran i wanted to see what his car had and i was confident i could give him good run w/o everything i had. and i lost, no excuses. my car isnt ragged out from nitrous, and im not a bad driver. me and him are going to race this weekend and the roush stage 3 wants us to go 3 deep. i will let it all hang out this weekend, and run as much as my car has. if he beats me this weekend then he will have done it by beating everything my car had to bring. i dont know one person from the charlotte import crew that i like except him,matt with the mazda and few others MAYBE. maybe im forgetting someone but they have ALL talked sh*t about me and its come around to me. but in all respect i prob deserve 50+% of the shit talked about me because im the typical domestic a**hole. but, im only like that to people i dont know, or the ones i do know that are a**holes to me. 2nd thing is jdm is one of the most recognized performance co. for modular mustangs/lightnings other than sean hyland motorsports. my catback is from jdm but is made by produced by magnaflow. and someone said that i should need a better clutch,he is right and i do have one, a stage 3 ram power grip clutch.

Zootking

So, you guys heard it from him first hand....this weekend will be the rematch on video....along with the Roush (with gears, x-pipe, short-throw)....it should be fun....

Rob, you know ive never said shit about you, just posting the truth, yet no one seems to believe it...oh well at least you and I know

mattg

time for zootking to say the haters



:edit: funny we would post at the exact same time

Fast Gold

2001 SVT COBRA CONV'T
#452 produced of 3384
White w/ black top, blk leather
MODS:
BFG G-force KD 275-40-17 tires
2003 Cobra Chrome rims(real ones)
2003 cobra hood
2003 cobra bumper
2003 cobra foglights
2003 Saleen S-281 3 piece wing
Phantom Series air/fuel ratio,fuel,nitrous gauges
NX wet kit (150 shot)
NOS bottle warmer
NOS purge system
Bassani high flow X pipe
JDM by Magnaflow 3.5in catback
Steeda Tri-Ax shifter
3:73 motorsport gear
Mac cold intake
Ram Stage 3 power grip clutch
304.2 rwhp 309.4 rwtorque (NA)


I can see that 304rwhp and 309rwtq isnt enough to make ur cobra run 109mph in traps, but did u use the 150shot when u raced him? Because that 150shot will make ur cobra trap between 119-122mph.

NOScobra2001

doesnt matter what happened in the last race. at the time i lost with whatever i was running fair and square. doesnt matter if i was spraying a 35,50, or a 500 shot or ir i wasnt spraying at all and was running just motor. i lost, hats off to torrey. this rematch this weekend will be on video and i will bring everything i have,that is all anyone needs to know.

Mike

oohhhh...i think zoot is going down!

so tell us the real story NosCobra, did you spray when you raced last time?

Zootking

If I go down this weekend, I go down....but it will only be b/c he put the 200 shot jets in ....and Rob, why did you put the N/A HP numbers in this sig, when you told everybody else you sprayed???I mean, we can go all motor too, im more likely to lose that way, but i would honestly like to give it a shot...

Pull_T

He could potentially trap 109 AN in his car, but it running that well NA makes it even more unbelievable that he'd lose to a CL on a 150 shot.

This whole thread is a bunch of BS, IMO unless dude wasn't spraying when he raced the CL...in which case it IS BS for him to be claiming to beat a Cobra w/150 shot.

Zootking

Hey Pull-T, i know its hard to believe, it was for me, but he told me he was spraying, and if he wasnt, could 6HP make up 4 car lengths????I mean I probably put 310 to the wheels, and if he traps like me all motor, then why wasnt he next to me at all????Oh and to make sure, we did it twice and the same result happened on the 2nd time...

Pull_T

OK...what do you trap?

Does he trap 109 NA or 109 spraying a 150 shot? (neither really "jives")

Does he even really have a 150 shot? What size jets is he using?

Zootking

Ive never seen him run at the track....all ive been told is that one time in Mooresville, NC (1/8th) he ran a 9.0 spraying....then a buddy of mine got in the car and ran 9.0N/A...Ive cared to look at his setup, all i know is that he did blow a motor b/c of the nitrous before.....look man, im not trying to start a quarrel or anything cause the same thing happened over on the SVT forum....I honestly didnt expect SVT owners to get this worked up about it....

Maximized

Did the guy make sure he had nitrous in his bottle or the valve was on? The numbers are WAY OFF. N/A his car is a good bit quicker than yours and on top of that he was spraying. His car SHOULD be a high 11s car vs. your estimated high 12s.

You get too confident on these kills man....A kill is a kill, but I wouldnt be posting about killing a 150 shot modded Cobra, when there is something obviously wrong with the scenario.

Zootking

Then exlain this to me....the same roush 3 that I raced, when this guy with the Cobra ran him too, he lost by like a couple of cars also...so the Roush and I are door to door, so why is it that hard to believe....I know the numbers dont add up, but shit anyone could put any numbers in their sig....also, its like allmotor's 12.93@111 run, he got the 13.4@109 on tape, but not the other one....no one is calling BS on his run???(btw im not calling BS either cause i believe what he says)

Pull_T

9.0 spraying? Jesus...this dude sucks ass, prolly couldn;t have beaten you even if he had a Lingenfelter TT Vette.

I ran 8.6 in my 98 Cobra, 15 less hp to start with, bone stock.

Like Maximized stated, a kill is a kill I guess.

Maximized

The way I see it, if this Cobra is really spraying a 150 shot like you said, the Roush will lose. That Cobra is seriously a high 11s car with a good driver.

Maximized

Isnt a 9.0 in the 1/8 what 99+ Stock GTs run with a good driver? I havent look at Stang times in a while, but IIRC some had run high 8's in the 1/8.

330RWHP

sorta kinda.
I took the easy way to get my numbers. Let's just say you and I have more in common than you think...

330RWHP

The Cobra guy must not be a good driver or have REALLY bad traction issues. A stageIII Roush has 360hp at the fly. Being generous, that has 320rwhp. If NOScobra2001 has 304rwhp n/a, on the bottle he should've torn the guy in the roush a new one. Roushes are just souped up GTs.

Also, i have never seen a N/A Cobra dyno higher torque than hp. Do you have the dyno sheet?

9.0 in the 1/8 SUCKS! I bet my friend $10 that I could spin through the traps at the eighth. I won the bet and pulled a 9.2. With traction/gears Cobras are easily 12 second cars n/a.

Just trying to make sense of all this.

Pull_T

Yeah, well driven a bone stock GT will get high 8s. I;ve done it and seen it plenty of times.

My 98 was 284 hp/290tq with bolt-ons before I threw the blower on. His power numbers are on the high side, but well within what I might expect NA for his mods on a 2001.

and "all motor" eh? haha...I wouldn;t be doing much nitpicking around here with that claim in the sig

numbaonestunna

Maybe because he has a Vobra that will roll you up and smoke you like an ounce of Mary J?

NOScobra2001

ok here we go, lots of questions here: i work so i apologize for delay.

zootking, i chose to put n/a numbers in sig. right above it listed my nx kit. not trying to hide or lie about anything. just chose to list my na numbers. also, if you want we can run muscle against muscle if you want with no spray.

zootking:
Hey Pull-T, i know its hard to believe, it was for me, but he told me he was spraying, and if he wasnt, could 6HP make up 4 car lengths????I mean I probably put 310 to the wheels, and if he traps like me all motor, then why wasnt he next to me at all????

reason being IF i ran you all motor *disclaimer*. if i did then your powerband would be different than mine and even if we had same power peak you would have pulled off because nitrous gives you instant torque and hp. so yes 6hp (which you guess-ta-mate) could make a big difference.

pull-Toes he even really have a 150 shot? What size jets is he using?

the 150 jet size are 62 nitrous and 35fuel

zootking:
Ive never seen him run at the track....all ive been told is that one time in Mooresville, NC (1/8th) he ran a 9.0 spraying....then a buddy of mine got in the car and ran 9.0N/A...Ive cared to look at his setup, all i know is that he did blow a motor b/c of the nitrous before.....

yes i ran a 9.01 at 90mph, and another 9.0 at like 88 coming off the line at 900rpm,not shifting fast and spraying once i got into 2nd gear. i was just playing around with some sh*tty tires that night looking for mph. i wasnt launching, i wasnt bangin the trans like i could.


zootking:
Then exlain this to me....the same roush 3 that I raced, when this guy with the Cobra ran him too, he lost by like a couple of cars also...so the Roush and I are door to door, so why is it that hard to believe....I know the numbers dont add up, but shit anyone could put any numbers in their sig....

i ran the roush all motor giving him the hit...

maximized:
Isnt a 9.0 in the 1/8 what 99+ Stock GTs run with a good driver? I havent look at Stang times in a while, but IIRC some had run high 8's in the 1/8.

no a bone stock gt on stock rubber runs 9.2's and the once and awhile freak that runs a 9.09. not an average thing at all.

330rwhp:
Also, i have never seen a N/A Cobra dyno higher torque than hp. Do you have the dyno sheet?

every dohc cobra ive had has dyno little, not much but more tq at tires, even stock. and ive had several. esp with full exhaust they bring more tq than hp, but its not ls1 torque like 15-20 more than hp. and yes i have dyno sheets for everything ive ever done.


pull-t:
My 98 was 284 hp/290tq with bolt-ons before I threw the blower on. His power numbers are on the high side, but well within what I might expect NA for his mods on a 2001.
and "all motor" eh? haha...I wouldn;t be doing much nitpicking around here with that claim in the sig

bone stock an 01 cobra makes 275-280 at the tires and 280-289tq down to the paper air filter. the right catback and high flow x pipe alone are giving our cars 25 at the tires. you can read that all over svtperformance.

later

330RWHP

What do you mean? I have no nitrous, no turbo, no blower, no power adder. As far as I knew, that's what consititutes 'all motor', correct?

Pull_T

Well, coming from a lame fucking driver (no offense, just pointing out FACTS)...you telling us what a car runs doesn;t carry a hell of a lot of weight around here. I have run a 8.85 in a bone stock 00 GT 5speed. Just cause you can't run your "Nawzed" Cobra to better than that doesn;t mean shit.

I've seen plenty of bone stock Cobras dyno, i know what they pull. I said yours was on the high side of what I have seen for those mods, I would guess 300-310...i never disbelieved you, just said it was on the high side.







And 330...I think I gotcha as far as what you are running...I'm a little slow on the uptake, thought you meant blower, not DOHC swap.

330RWHP

lol...There ya go...

Do you post on other Mustang boards?

Pull_T

fordpower
mustangworld
corral

NOScobra2001

pull-t:
Well, coming from a lame fucking driver (no offense, just pointing out FACTS)...you telling us what a car runs doesn;t carry a hell of a lot of weight around here. I have run a 8.85 in a bone stock 00 GT 5speed. Just cause you can't run your "Nawzed" Cobra to better than that doesn;t mean shit

first off you have no facts at all about my driving habits,my car or anything else related to me. ill foot brake with any of you any day, so im not a fucking lame driver. no flame intended. im not questioning your 8.85 in bone stock gt, i could care less personally. ive also seen a bone stock 00ls1 z28 put 310rwhp and a ungodly amount of torque down BONE stock in belmont,nc. sh*t happens and there are always exceptions to the rule. and last, its not nawz, nos is a brand name nitrous kit, stands for nitrous oxide systems by holley. so dont compare me with rice slang. like i stated previously, sometimes people go to the track to play and have a good time and do whats called "test and tune" i wasnt out that night to trap a bad ass e.t on sh*tty tires. i was out to play around with different setups and looking at mph. now enough is enough, im not here to argue with any of you people. im just telling you what i see.

Pull_T

From what I hear NOSCobra, if you mixed in a salad here and there, you might trap a LOT better.

numbaonestunna

bottom line...


1) You lost to the Roush Stage 3 all motor by a few car lengths.

2) You lost to ZootKing with your 150 shot twice?

Roush Stage 3 hangs with Zootking... therefore you + 150 shot should be faster, no?

What gives?

NOScobra2001

NUMBAONSTUNNA:
now I'm confused...
bottom line...


1) You lost to the Roush Stage 3 all motor by a few car lengths.

2) You lost to ZootKing with your 150 shot twice?

Roush Stage 3 hangs with Zootking... therefore you + 150 shot should be faster, no?

What gives?


::LIGHT BULB:: lol....

:thinking:

pull-t:

hmm one day before a fat joke comes into play, shows a small mind.