I was just reading the topic about the GTP's and someone mentioned getting someone to make LSD's for our cars. I did some research b/c I had been interested in one of these for our cars. I discovered there is a company called Phantom Grip that makes an LSD conversion kit for our cars. I confirmed through the company that they do work seemlessly on our cars.

The price is $260 & can be purchased from www.mmrusa.com

Comments...

 

I didn't see anything for the Type-S, only a '00 CL/TL. I would think the differential is different.

 

I think thats awesome. The only problem is with our trannies. If we modify the trannies they wont have naymore waaranty, which means if it goes out, we are screwed. And at the rat esome of these trannies are going, kinda scary.

 

I don't see LSD for the 2001 Acura CL. where is it listed?

 

Hopefully this will be available on the 2002 CLS's. And hopefully the transmission issues will be resolved. I can see this being a really great upgrade for that little money!

 

Although install is a different story. I'm sure with just install it could go up to 1000.

 

260$$$$lol...the one in the 03 manual might fit....a quaife unit...is 1200$ i wouldnt want a 260$ LSD...unless it was a night in the desert with jim morrison and some indian chief name geronimo...and id still feel ripped off

 

ive done some more research...this is a kit using the factory unit...there web site say 398 installation...hum?????

 

When most companies end the CL with a 2000 model...they are usually referring to the first gen....and in particular to the 2.2/2.3 for things like an LSD.

 

"Phantom Grip" conversions kits are not LSDs. They're what's known as "Detroit Lockers." This subject and some technicalities have been discussed in good detail here before, which you should have found if you just ran a search.

If you need even more information, run a search with google.com for "phantom grip" and "detroit locker".

If there's a single rule in life that holds up well, it's that you get what you pay for.

 

:shakehd: :angry: Why is it that if one person posts one thing the has ever been posted here, they get this famous phrase?

 

Well, you can find that out for yourself if you just run a search on it.

 

Great response!

 

Im not smart, what is an limited slip differantial

 

cls has VSA and Traction control..why add LSD ??

 

The man that works next to me installed one of these units in his truck and although it works he had take it apart several times to get it to work reasonably well.He had asked the tech people at the com pany about the possibilty of using this thing in a FWD trans and they said that it was not advised.Now a truck with RWD is easy to access the diff but in a FWD car you have to remove the trans if a adjustment is required and that could run into some serious money.Better you folks wait and see if a good alternative comes to market.Jens

 

I have serious doubts about making a getting a limited slip to work with the traction control and VSA...


As the power is "lost" to a slipping wheel, a limited slip will try to direct power away from that wheel. The VSA will also try adding brake pressure to that wheel. So, now the diff sees a wheel that looks locked (for that brief moment). The diff dumps power in to our "wonderful" brakes and this creates a control system feedback loop that was never designed into the car’s VSA system. The diff creates a 2nd control loop that may or may not be "upset" the VSA (sure couldn’t be great on the brakes). I would advise people to think about what would be going on (between the LSD and the VSA)

There was mention of how the latest Porsche Carerra dropped stability control on cars with 2-wheel drive, electronic throttle, and a rear limited slip -- they though the car had a “funny behavior” (4WD retains the control system and they note that the problem stems from the electronic throttle system [I wonder…])

Perhaps someone could argue that this is worth a test. I say sure! However, as suggested, who wants to take a still "unsorted" transmission apart to install a limited slip to see just how sure they can be about NOT ever getting warranty support.

$0.02