Edub-TL

You got that right.. not having road lamps is bad, but not having the option and instead having fake fog holes really sux phat nutz!

It looks pretty bad w/o the driving lights, it's like they forgot something that was supposed to be there..

Don't the CLS wheels remind you of some other car??

Paul

heres a pic of 02 CLP rims VS 03 CLP. The 03 also sticks out soo much.

Neech

The 6 speed would be the only reason I'd get this but I'm not interested in driving a stick in southern CT. TOO MUCH TRAFFIC!

Hey, we set the most users on-line at once record today! 183

soopa

as for the rims... (the type-s ones at least)

go easy on Acura.


i think what their trying to do is go for a German look.

with painted rims.


previously, most acura rims, including the '01 CLs... have a powdercoat/polished finish.


BMW's rims, which are painted, are immensely popular.


it seems apparent to me that their trying to copy BMW's style of rim a bit... their just going about it all wrong. No biggie... since ALL stock rims are ass anyway. Thats what the aftermarket is for

Zapata

http://www.acuranews.com./Forms/acur...ml?KWx=CLspecs

vince

Are the painted rims less likely to scratch, or appear scratched? That may be one reason for the change.

Fabvsix

I was not surprised of the "minor" changes ! I've bought Honda's since 1984. They do NOT make sudden changes etc.....The fact that a manual transmission came out, tells me one thing: Acura/Honda IS LISTENING !

Likes: 6MT

Dislikes:

New rims looks like Accords new ones

Front of new CL looks much like the 1998 Accord coupe grill

MUCH Prefer SOLID red rear lights !

Don't care for RICEY ALLUMINUM TRIM

Perforated leather on doors ? Come on, RICEY AGAIN........if your going to get sporty, get sporty, NOT RICEY !

I would not be surprised if the fog lights are an option !

HOW MANY LAYERS OF FOOKING PAINT ON THIS CAR TOO ?????? Anyone knows ?

Nashua_Night_Hawk

In short, I am still looking for 2004 or 2005 AWD 350 HP SMG CL.. till then I am satisfied with my CLS.

Only the 6-speed die-hards would be happy with this minor refresh.

BTW, I was on the note with my prediction:

1) On Star
2) 6-speed
3) minor headlights and rear tail lights changes
4) and minor interiior comsmtics
5) rims are a bad surprise!

Zapata

they nearly double 3rd, doubled 4th, 5th .9 and 6th is 7. SO basically you will feel like the car is accelerating through every gear!!!!!! NO MORE, 4th or 5th. I am very impressed at acura went with such an agressive gearing on the car. Final drive went down so top end will a little higher and we might suffer a little on the launchs but it'll be nice because the maunal and LS will help get some of the lost time back.

proactive

Yeah, I like the new ones much better. No offense. I've liked them since I saw the similar ones on the new TL-P. I was never a fan of the 01-02 CL-P rims, the look like 15"s - the new ones actually look like 16"s. IMO.

Moog-Type-S

It would appear these "Cosmetic" changes (not including the six speed) are minimal to the extent that there should be little if no change to the 2001-2002 resale value......a plus IMOA

Paul

hehe oh well. Out of 01-02's CLP CLS and 03's CLP CLS, I think the 01-02's CLS is the best and the only decent looking one

WebToker

The antenna is for onstar...

JRock

Very simple - it's what I said back when people first started talking about it - the "290hp" is what you get when you put a manual transmission in place of the auto tranny which has a higher loss from crank to wheels.

It's not REALLY 290hp, it's just that you lose around 25-30 less horsepower to the wheels with the stick than you do with the auto tranny.

So 290hp is completely incorrect to say. It's just that you get 20-25 more of the 260hp to the wheels.

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Man that is one crappy job they did to it. They ruined the wheels, they ruined the front end, and they ruined the rear lights.

Good job, Acura: By using the Toyota School of Design (uglifying all your vehicles one generation at a time), you're making it much easier for me to choose my next car.

pwille

Ah, makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.

pwille

Yes, this makes sense.

Just a few more comments...

All in all, I am impressed by Acura. As mentioned, they DID deliver the 6-speed.

I, however, might wait until the 04 TL. Who knows, all I know is that Acura did not let me down.

WebToker

The cool thing about this is I got everything I need in my 01 CL and the things that I want are easy swaps. I never wanted a manual, I drive in traffic too much. This makes me happy because now I don't need to trade my baby in ;-)

Paul

true, now that I think about it. I would hate it if the new CL has alot of exterior changes. Since I just bought my car 2 months ago. I dont want a stick either so that wont help me. The only thing I might want is the tail lights, im stil not sure yet since my car is black, i kinda like the solid red in teh back.

Generationz

solid red looks soooooooooooooo hard keep em

nootch

Well when I finally get a CL used, there will be a bunch more 01's to choose from...

Generationz

honestly i like our factory rims i mean im still gettin 19s but... they are not ugly

Crazy Bimmer

Hey the cupholder looks like it slids backwards instead of pushing the button.. ya know what im talking about....

LOOKS cheap to me. :P
Also no fogs switch...

TLS still ownz joo!

WebToker

They did listen about the lights, a lot of us wanted the lights to be split like the TLs. there is a photoshop image that was done over a year ago that looks exactly the same as the lights do in the 2003.

WebToker

I agree, I will still be getting aftermarket rims but at least for now our rims look sweet.

Generationz

i just realized this post put meover the hundred posts limit

now i gotta get an avatar

JRock

I love my stock rims. Read more carefully - I said they stick out too far - they are too easy to scratch.

WebToker

I mean look at these rims, you can't say they don't look good on our cars...

JRock

To properly split our foglights, the rear end would have to be redesigned so it doesn't look stupid.... how it looks like on the '03.

MyBigBlack S

ok, so it looks a little lame. LISTEN TO ZAPATA though. This gearing is insane. Any guesses on performance? I'll wait for some AWD, but this isn't all bad...

JRock

Hey buddy, for the second time, read wtf I said, not what you think I said:

I love my stock rims. Everyone agrees that they STICK OUT TOO FAR though, making them easy to scratch. Acura took the time to redesign the wheels but they managed to ignore all our comments about how they stick out too far (just look at those new CL-P rims).

Btw, your ride with the really dark tint makes that red paint look even better than normal!

WebToker

Foglights?

soopa

I'm with you...

Our stock rims are pretty nice as stock rims go.


But... GET ON THE BAND WAGON FOO...

WebToker

Now now Jrock, calm down. I wasn't talking directly to you. I was just making a point.

JRock

Rear lights. You know what I meant. I was thinking about the foglights because they removed them.

Looks like you made a grammar mistake too. (Ah, now you edit it.)


Anyway, you replied to my post and it sounded like you're saying Acura DOES pay attention to our comments, when they clearly don't as shown by their insistance for rims that stick out. That's all. :P

WebToker

You are correct, we still coo, I know you can get excited sometimes LOL...

joeandcarol2

Not sure I like the gear ratios. I want a manual but not a drag racer. I don't want to be turning high rpms while i am cruising on the highway just so some young kids can turn fast quarter miles. Mistake Accura.

charliemike

Any idea what that kind of RPMs that car is going to turn in 6th at 75mph?

JRock

Come on, we gotta make a record post-count in this thread somehow!

soopa

your one in a million.

in a high gear you wont be at high rpm at cruising speeds.


the nice thing is youll still have some power tho even in 6th.

Zapata

prolly 2 plus, 2.5 max.