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Old 03-26-2003, 05:23 AM
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Koni Yellows or Tokico Illumina's Opinions

Koni yellows or Tokico Illumina's ?

I really want the KYB AGX cause the adjustable dial is on the bottom where its really easy to change.

Well heres my requirements :
Currently I have stock shocks with comptech springs ( 43k) miles on stock shocks plus comptech sways which kills my ride but it handles great. Now I'm getting 19's put on in less than 1 week and I just drove my friends stock 01 TypeS and it was so smooth, yes it doesn't handle as good but I don't plan on drivnig all crazy anymore esp since I got the rims I can't bend.

Most likely Im going to set them to the softest setting so I can get my ride quality back.

I know the fronts are easy to adjust but the rears are a pain. I also remember someone saying they cut some part in the trunk or rear or something so they could easily adjust the rear shocks.

Can someone shed some light here?

Also any one running the most soft setting on the Konis or Illunia's?

Majority is mostly using Koni's but is it that much better than the Tokicos if im not going to push my car and go auto crossing etc...
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Sweet Joe. I see you're the first to get the kumho MX's. Please let me know how they are--I was planning on getting them for my next set. They ranked very highly when compared tot he Michelin Pilots (and they'll probably last a lot longer too).

As for the shocks, if you put the konis on their softest setting they will probably be just a bit firmer than stock. Right now mine are set over half-way firm and sometimes I wish they were even firmer yet.
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im not sure how to adjust the rears...with out removing the rear seat back? my konis are coming thursday...another benefite of the konis are the spring height is adjustable not just the damp rate
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Re: Koni Yellows or Tokico Illumina's Opinions

Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS

I know the fronts are easy to adjust but the rears are a pain. I also remember someone saying they cut some part in the trunk or rear or something so they could easily adjust the rear shocks.

Can someone shed some light here?
I am also very very interested in this....I dont want to have to take out my back seat everytime I want to adjust it Has anyone made it so they can just adjust the back ones easy??
Old 03-26-2003, 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by typeR
im not sure how to adjust the rears...with out removing the rear seat back? my konis are coming thursday...another benefite of the konis are the spring height is adjustable not just the damp rate
That depends on which ones you get. My Koni Sport (yellow ones) are not adjustable with the spring height. Only the stiffness is adjustable.
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Hmm

There was previous talk about someone drilling a whole in the rear deck so they were able to adjust them without pulling out the rear seats. Ask Chikai.

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Old 03-26-2003, 09:17 AM
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Re: Koni Yellows or Tokico Illumina's Opinions

Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS
but I don't plan on drivnig all crazy anymore


IMO - I'd go with the Koni's. I've heard nothing but good reviews about them. I thought you already had your Axis wheels?
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i got tokico illuminas on the softest setting, they ride firmer than stock yet handling is sweet. if you're gonna spend more then go for tein ss, really worth the money, otherwise the illuminas are just fine.
Old 03-26-2003, 12:09 PM
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Jens at PAA installed my koni's and put 2 little holes in the rear deck so the screws can stick out, all i have to do is put the knobs on and I can adjust them without removing my deck
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Originally posted by ch1276
Jens at PAA installed my koni's and put 2 little holes in the rear deck so the screws can stick out, all i have to do is put the knobs on and I can adjust them without removing my deck
When you say rear deck you mean you have two holes in the actual deck in the back...like you can see into the trunk from the back seat??? Can you take some pics for us??
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Joe, those rims are going to look tight!


Let's meet up sometime so I can check'em out!


Also, definitely post a review of the MX's. My toyo's are coming close to needing to be replaced.
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
When you say rear deck you mean you have two holes in the actual deck in the back...like you can see into the trunk from the back seat??? Can you take some pics for us??
yeah I'd like to see that too.

The last time I checked, the tops of the two struts actually poke into the plastic of the speaker grill.
Old 03-26-2003, 01:00 PM
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i used to ride on koni sport and eibach pro-kit, they are okay i guess. why not get tein and have all the look and comfort. you can sit really low and still have the stock comfortable feel. just my 0.2
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Originally posted by chikai
yeah I'd like to see that too.

The last time I checked, the tops of the two struts actually poke into the plastic of the speaker grill.
I can't see into the trunk, the holes are just big enough for the tops to stick out, they are very close to the speaker grill, but not hitting it
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Wow ok...can you get some pics of this?? When you adjust the shocks...you do it from in the car or in the trunk?

Thnaks
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Originally posted by 6spdCL-S
That depends on which ones you get. My Koni Sport (yellow ones) are not adjustable with the spring height. Only the stiffness is adjustable.
KONI does not make a yellow for our car that does not have spring height adjustment!...to be clear every koni yellow that will fit our car is spring height adjustable!...let me restate this again more softly i dont wanna come off the wrong way...i cant find an application of KONI yellow for our vehical that doesnt state perch adjustment capable...maybe yours do and you just didnt know it?

Originally posted by 6spdCL-S
That depends on which ones you get. My Koni Sport (yellow ones) are not adjustable with the spring height. Only the stiffness is adjustable.
and again to be clear this is not the typical threaded collar coilover adjust ment this is 3 to 5(depending on model) set perch adjustments
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reason why I don't want to go w/ TEINS is cause its more LOOT!!! Shit, im already planning on getting new 4 piston brakes (1500 bucks) then my 45k maint is coming up ( 450 ) and just to install the shocks its gonna be another (300), plus once I don't tink i'll change the stock hieght too much. actually I like how the comptechs sit.
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even at the softest setting the koni yellows are definately firmer than stock, this may attribute to the kuhmo mx's also.
Old 03-26-2003, 02:29 PM
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The bitch is pull out rear sit witout ripping any thing i hav e already ripped.
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
Wow ok...can you get some pics of this?? When you adjust the shocks...you do it from in the car or in the trunk?

Thnaks
I can adjust them from in the car, although I just had them put in recently and really have not messed with them

I will take some pics probably tomorrow for you
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Originally posted by ch1276
I can adjust them from in the car, although I just had them put in recently and really have not messed with them

I will take some pics probably tomorrow for you
Great...I do not have them yet but once my stock ones go I will get them for sure. I also imagin once I have them set I will never fool with them but I would like the option

Thanks again
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TypeR, I haven't changed the settings yet, but are you saying that by stiffening it, I can actually lower the ride height of the car also??
How much lower with comptech springs?
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I have comptech springs with Koni Yellows'... I like it. I bought them not even knowing that you could lower car more with them and thank god you could, because after I got my new wheels with the comptechs "18's" my car still looked high! After lowering with the Konis it sits Perfect! I would go with konis after reading a million reviews of both the Konis and Tokicos I could not find anyone with anything bad to say about the Konis... I cant say the same for the tokicos....

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Originally posted by ch1276
TypeR, I haven't changed the settings yet, but are you saying that by stiffening it, I can actually lower the ride height of the car also??
How much lower with comptech springs?
no ...the stiffness is an independant adjustement...there are between 3 and 5 perch settings depending on model koni yellow purchased where the car could be lowered or raised ... 1 up 1 down or 2 up 2 down...BTW i just got my koni yellows today the SP3 neuspeed special purchase ones with 5 positions and more aggressive damping as well as 20mm short shaft...may install them tommorrow...along with the mugen Tstat and fanswitch
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there are only 2 height settings on the yellows, stock and lower perch.


at least thats how mine were.

:edit: i see you got different ones
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Originally posted by mattg
there are only 2 height settings on the yellows, stock and lower perch.


at least thats how mine were.

:edit: i see you got different ones
should be one above also...currently hidden by your spring...
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probably a dumb question, but how would you adjust the height setting?
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Originally posted by ch1276
probably a dumb question, but how would you adjust the height setting?
theres a clip that fits into a grove...take out the clip move it to the desired position ...thats it
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so getting the koni yellows would make the car have height adjust and stiffness adjust, i wish i knew this before buying my tokico's. btw, i am happy with the tokico's. i think they ride well compared to some other setups ive seen. handling can be through the roof but it takes just the right setting.
now someone please point me in the direction to these koni's that are adjustable. i am looking for a 1.25 inch drop. will the koni's do this and if they do, what model do i have to get?
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Originally posted by typeR
theres a clip that fits into a grove...take out the clip move it to the desired position ...thats it
I'll have to check this out saturday since I am putting my wheels on and the car will be on the lift. The clip is on the sleeve itself? By the springs?
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Originally posted by ch1276
I'll have to check this out saturday since I am putting my wheels on and the car will be on the lift. The clip is on the sleeve itself? By the springs?
on the shock body just below the spring perch
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Which ever you choose, please let me know where you get it done and the cost. I called a couple places and it was close to $2,000 for the Tokico's. I'm in nova, too.
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Ok right now I have the CT springs and stock shocks...when I do get the yellows and leave it on the stock pertch...will the car have the same drop as just the CT and stock shocks??
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
Ok right now I have the CT springs and stock shocks...when I do get the yellows and leave it on the stock pertch...will the car have the same drop as just the CT and stock shocks??
good question?
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
Ok right now I have the CT springs and stock shocks...when I do get the yellows and leave it on the stock pertch...will the car have the same drop as just the CT and stock shocks??
I'll let you know this weekend when I put the car on a lift and check it out. I have my stock wheels on now, but it looks like the drop is the same and I am just guessing that my shocks are on the stock perch, but I may be wrong
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Cool...let me know. See I am waiting for the stock ones to go then I will get the yellows but I kinda like the hight I am at now. Dont get me wrong I would go lower but its just not good to do here. The streets suck so if i go lower I will not be able to enjoy the power of the CL because i will bottom out all the time I also dont want to have to fool with the cambers and stuff like that.
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well i have comptech springs and koni yellows and don't have any camber issues at all. the roads suck here too, i was thinking of getting 19's to replace my 18's, but I don't know how practical it is
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Originally posted by typeR
good question?
they will be at the same height if you leave it at the stock perch. thats what i have now. .stock shocks & comptech springs vs koni yellows & comptech springs.
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how much more of a lower drop can you get by changing the perch?
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2000 dollars HOLLY SHIT, are they gonna lubed it before they rape u a new one?

300 Dollar MAX for labor + 500 for parts = 800 MAX this is w/ koni yellows jeezus


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