j_a_b

most of you know i totalled my cl-s well i was thinking about buying a used sc400 or sc300 but i was wondering if the sc300 engine was the same as the supra twin or non turbo?....anyone know

Gator CL-S

I think so. I know the SC300 uses the 2JZGE engine. Which I believe is the same or very similar to the Supra engine. I don't have time to look up the info, so I'm not 100% positive.

my2sense

youd take a used sc400 over a new CL-s? tsk tsk
i say just go get a 6mt cls instead...

AcuraFanatic

It definately uses the same block, and I imagine it's pretty close to the same unit found in the Supra. This engine is also used in the GS300 and IS300, while the ES300 and RX300 use 3.0 liter V-6's.

JRock

2JZ-GE is used in many Lexuses and the Supra non-turbo.

The 2JZ-GTE is the SupraTT engine and might also be in a couple Lexuses (Lexi?).

If you're gonna do boost, you want the GTE. It's built to last.

Water-S

don't forget a forged "lower end" meaning pistons,con rods. If you want(and got the money) while you got the motor open go ahead and bore it you'll get more RPMs that way but as all HP options you'll be shelling out more cash.

Red Nj-s

The 3 liter inline 6, 2jzge is a good engine, but it will cost you way to much to put out 2jzgte numbers, if thats what ur thinkin about doin.

KCPreki11

YES YES YES...DO IT...You just need to get someone to transplant the Supra TT engine into it! Do it, you won't be mad. There are a couple of guys putting down 500+ with the luxary of the SC400.

Water-S

the 2 hardest parts of this job will be #1 finding a good Supra TT motor to swap in at a good price(if they're in the junkyard they've been either wrecked, ran the P!SS out of , or just junk )(try to find one that was hit on doors or back(somewhere like that)(usually when they get hit on the front end it messes up the motor)
#2 hard job will be finding someone to do it. cause I bet you'll have to get custom motor mounts and custom transmission mounts. I don't wanna say it's not possible but you got a big job in front of you.
Anything possible with enough cash(Like I know a friend he had a little 2wd 2 door blazer(the ones on a S-10 size) (listen to this) he somehow dropped a stroked and about every power thing you cold do to it 454 Chevy big block into that. I'M SO GLAD he listened to me. cause I believe in roll cages I told him to put in a roll cage. well one night he went out playing around with his Blazer and hit a pole at 100+MPH (AND HE LIVED) he said if it wasn't for that roll cage he'd probably be in a coffin. but MAN that truck was crazy fast to bad it's in some junkyard

JRock

I'm pretty sure you can order a brand new 2JZ-GTE block from an importer for a couple grand. They still make the engine, you know.

j_a_b

thanks alot for all the info guys, ive heard word from a few people that drive lexs with the 2jzge that alot of them blow for no reason i dont know how true it is but im going to look inot this further....and to that last comment im pretty sure you can order a 2jzgte block directly from toyota....we will see what happens.....and to whoever said tsk tsk for not wanting another cl, their is no way i can afford a new car now with my insurance going up and i had enough trouble out of my other cl .....noway i would buy a used one

j_a_b

too bad i can't just import one of those sc300tt

haiduc

there are a bunch of SC300 TT's running around.... nice cars.

the 2JZ-GE/GTE is built like a brick shithouse. the motor can be aboused and beat up on, but it still runs fine. i'd worry about replacing turbo's on it before rebuilding the bottom end.

you dont do an engine transplant into the SC400.... you buy the SC300 5pd and twin turbo it using the 2JZ-GTE exhaust manifolds. the intercooler piping has to be modified, last i heard.

there was a guy with a pearl white SC300TT that came down to the Tysons/Starbucks meet that we had a couple of months ago...... he did have California tags i believe. the front mount on that thing was

JRock

This is a 2JZ-GTE with a big single turbo going in Clint's new SC300. His old one was a twinturbo SC300.



It was my wallpaper for a few weeks.

j_a_b

what rims are those...they look sweet

j_a_b

any year better than another on the sc300.....very hard to find a manual though...

haiduc

i'd go with any of the later model years that you can find...... i should think you're gonna have less problems with squeaks and other annoying shit the newer the car.

haiduc

check this one put for example

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1825823382


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1825739141

edit: look at the front end..... they are out there tho that arent wrecked

moomaster_99

From what I have heard is that although the engine block is the same...the NA 2jz-ge is not built for turbo applications. So, yeah...you're gonna need a new motor. Not to mention the tranny to handle all that power....so, a few grand for the motor, a few grand more for the tranny....probably about 1K for the ECU...and then install. Base price to do all that $6K min.

JRock

And that doesn't include labor nor all the little goodies you'd need like upgraded fuel system, a nice FMIC, an MBC and/or BCC, and tweak controllers like AVC-R and SAVC.