Just port and polished my Type S TB and Intake Mani
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i hope you guys did a before dyno this time. if not...
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I don't know if he dynoed his car before, but I don't think so. As for dyno numbers, I have dyno numbers from other customer cars, but no body here takes them as true.... I guess stating previous gains means nothing and the reputation of my shop is none. I guess that just isn't good enough... I don't have any sheets to proove yet, but I am trying to get...
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Originally Posted by O-FL Motorsports
I don't know if he dynoed his car before, but I don't think so. As for dyno numbers, I have dyno numbers from other customer cars, but no body here takes them as true.... I guess stating previous gains means nothing and the reputation of my shop is none. I guess that just isn't good enough... I don't have any sheets to proove yet, but I am trying to get...
It isn't a matter of we don't believe you... its just lets compare apples to apples here. How another car reacted to PnP is completely irrelevant. This mod has been done to our cars in the past with little to no success.
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Originally Posted by O-FL Motorsports
I don't know if he dynoed his car before, but I don't think so. As for dyno numbers, I have dyno numbers from other customer cars, but no body here takes them as true.... I guess stating previous gains means nothing and the reputation of my shop is none. I guess that just isn't good enough... I don't have any sheets to proove yet, but I am trying to get...
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Graig thanks for the good job.
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Little to no sucess? Not on any car I have done or seen, and I have done plenty... Who did the work, was it a pro, what was done? Do you have pics of the work and dyno's? I don't care if some other no name shop did some work and there was no difference in power... Obviously, they didn't know what they were doing. I have been on the flow bench with your intakes and know how to make them flow... There is power to be found and I have now two people on your site seeing the gains. So, if no gains have been found in the past, by one no name shop who didn't know what they were doing, port and polished intake manifolds and throttle bodies are just shunned upon? The power is there, the gains can be had fairly cheaply, and even if you dont want to believe it and keep dwelling upon the fact that it wasn't there before... Guess what... It was always there, it just wasn't properly done. Guess you won't be getting the most out of your car... I will get the dyno's hopefull for you so I can get your mind out of the past...
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Originally Posted by O-FL Motorsports
Little to no sucess? Not on any car I have done or seen, and I have done plenty... Who did the work, was it a pro, what was done? Do you have pics of the work and dyno's? I don't care if some other no name shop did some work and there was no difference in power... Obviously, they didn't know what they were doing. I have been on the flow bench with your intakes and know how to make them flow... There is power to be found and I have now two people on your site seeing the gains. So, if no gains have been found in the past, by one no name shop who didn't know what they were doing, port and polished intake manifolds and throttle bodies are just shunned upon? The power is there, the gains can be had fairly cheaply, and even if you dont want to believe it and keep dwelling upon the fact that it wasn't there before... Guess what... It was always there, it just wasn't properly done. Guess you won't be getting the most out of your car... I will get the dyno's hopefull for you so I can get your mind out of the past...
Let’s get direct here and clear the air. What was mentioned was the throttle plate was made thinner but the bore was left alone?? However, the throttle shaft was not touched?? According to the previous information, the manifold was ported but yet the injector bases were left alone which is half the runner length. Since you flow benched them, what were the before and after numbers??
Since you obviously missed the information earlier here are the threads which cover the work done nearly 2.5 years ago:
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81192
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81430
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81626
As for power, here is a before and after dyno. The power gains here are by way of keeping the engine 20 degree cooler; a great way to try and emulate power gains.
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Now, with that said why hasn’t a single person done before and after dyno’s to put this to rest?? That would save all of this discussion. Oh yea, record engine and ambient conditions to eliminate error.
Seriously, I would be willing to concede in possible error, etc. if there were actual before and after numbers. But what we get is enthusiastic assumption based on “feel”. The track numbers were promising but hardly conclusive as the car was different then outside of the work performed. That is all people want, solid before and after numbers. Being annoyed by this request diminishes the outlook on this.
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Originally Posted by O-FL Motorsports
Guess you won't be getting the most out of your car... I will get the dyno's hopefull for you so I can get your mind out of the past...
You're are correct, I won't be getting the most out of my car via PnP the intake manifold. I'll be replacing mine with one of these:
Also, like Scalbert said, without a true before and after dyno with documented engine and ambient conditions that are similar both before and after there isn't going to be proof that this does anything.
When the UniChip (a piggyback ECU controller) first came out many people, myself included, "felt" gains. Then I put it on the dyno and the powerband was nearly identical as prior to the UniChip install. It actually lost power.
EDIT: For someone who's trying to "advertise" their skills via this post, you sure are burning alot of bridges before they are even built. I appreciate your confidence, but lets not go calling out other people's work before you know the facts. kthxbye
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I am not advertising in any way. As for calling out peoples work? I just don't believe in the work that they did. I see gains from my work... so kthxbye
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I know there are plenty of CL owners in the Orlando area... how about we put an end to the ambiguity and find a member who wants to test this out with before & after dynos and possibly track times as well?
Shouldn't be too hard if you give em a pricebreak, O-FL Motorsports, and it'll be a nice feather in your hat if it does provide conclusive gains. Not to mention, you'll have CLs lined up at your door.
Shouldn't be too hard if you give em a pricebreak, O-FL Motorsports, and it'll be a nice feather in your hat if it does provide conclusive gains. Not to mention, you'll have CLs lined up at your door.
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Originally Posted by O-FL Motorsports
As for calling out peoples work? I just don't believe in the work that they did.
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Also and once again, what were the flow bench numbers?? Also. whose flow bench, manufacturer or parts used to build own, is it?? I have designed and implemented several flow bench test stands for the industrial market and am always curious about what others use.
Lastly, and as just mentioned, to put this to rest why not get someone local to do before and after testing. That would put it to rest and make everyone happy including myself if positive gains were found.
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Originally Posted by paper1122
I've seen Greg's work in person, good stuff. Cool guy to hang out with.
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no before and after dyno, no care.
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and i'm certainly not ragging on you.
it would just be nice to have some hard evidence to go along w/ all the speculation.
it would just be nice to have some hard evidence to go along w/ all the speculation.
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There were pictures of the process along with before and after testing yet you don't beleive the evidence at hand?? You are trying to earn money; there is no way you would discredit your work. ![Roll Eyes](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Also and once again, what were the flow bench numbers?? Also. whose flow bench, manufacturer or parts used to build own, is it?? I have designed and implemented several flow bench test stands for the industrial market and am always curious about what others use.
Lastly, and as just mentioned, to put this to rest why not get someone local to do before and after testing. That would put it to rest and make everyone happy including myself if positive gains were found.
![Roll Eyes](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif)
Also and once again, what were the flow bench numbers?? Also. whose flow bench, manufacturer or parts used to build own, is it?? I have designed and implemented several flow bench test stands for the industrial market and am always curious about what others use.
Lastly, and as just mentioned, to put this to rest why not get someone local to do before and after testing. That would put it to rest and make everyone happy including myself if positive gains were found.
P.S. - what's the good word on some new cams?
P.S.S. - I BOUGHT A NEW CAR, SOLD THE DENALI!! It's a beauty.
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