Imrc !!!
Waiting on hearing from a guy on cl for one that runs on moduels but he only has 3,5,7k pills. I will set it up with the 3k and go from there.
But I think i'm going to buy the 3-3800 set
But I think i'm going to buy the 3-3800 set
I still dont think you get it, and unfortunately, I cannot put it into words as well as this article has - which incidentally enough, is where you got your Vette comparison. Way to cherry pic the facts, btw 
If we delve deeper into that article, to where the Vette comparison shows up, you'll see this bit of useful info:
http://www.hondahookup.com/info/hors..._vs_torque.php

If we delve deeper into that article, to where the Vette comparison shows up, you'll see this bit of useful info:
http://www.hondahookup.com/info/hors..._vs_torque.php
So your saying there is something wrong with using a comparison from another site relevant to our conversation that EXACTLY explains my point? hmm weird.
Anyway...different spots in the RPM band would be interesting to see the butterflys open at...VTEC would probably sound/feel much louder if they opened around 4.8k-5k.... but with our gearing (6spd esp) being so short i think them being open or deleted and ported a bit would be most beneficial because we never really drop out of 5-5.5k when shifting @ redline.
1) cherry picking facts from that article is
and
2) not using it as a source
Way to skirt the topic at hand though
What topic would you like to talk about? I'll be more than happy to provide more evidence on why power>tq in straight line speed and use my "sources" and your cute "Cherry picking" phrase in MLA style format. "
Last edited by 03CLSMT; Mar 15, 2012 at 02:53 PM.
when you say power, are you referring to HP or a combination of both HP and TQ? Cause "power" is not specific enough.
Like I said earlier, TQ is a measurement of power as well as HP.
It's 3800 for the J32A2.
Like I said earlier, TQ is a measurement of power as well as HP.
It's 3800 for the J32A2.
Last edited by civicdrivr; Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25 PM.
i know ours are 3800 i was refering to the new TLs shoulda been more clear sorry... looked it up looks like newer tl/tlshawd are set at 3950/4000
Last edited by typeR; Mar 15, 2012 at 03:40 PM.
I think the biggest thing that may not be clear to someone is the power delivery.To bring up the tractor argument from the previous page, the diesel engines rev to ~5k rpm at most and have the bulk of the torque before 2k rpms. The gearing is usually longer, but you're still shifting quite often to keep it accelerating. Thats why big rigs have many gears.
The article posted on the previous page delves into that regarding the Vette argument. Yes the LT1 makes more horsepower while the torque stays the same, but the torque peaks at a higher RPM on the LT1 then it does on the L99, so it pulls harder at higher RPMs.
Its just not correct in saying horsepower is better then torque. If it was, we'd all have high-revving 4 cylinders powering our cars.
There are great arguments from both sides, believe what you will. I got better things to do in life then worry about this crap especially since I'm not a mechanic for NASCAR.
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