I was making the Type-s look bad this whole time!!

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Old May 15, 2001 | 06:54 PM
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From: The grande.. Riverdale NJ.. Hopefully moving to skyline village in Lincoln park NJ..yes dirty jersey
I was making the Type-s look bad this whole time!!

Since i got my car it seemed a lil slow.
My boy has a 328 is and he kept beating me.
So then this topic popped up with the actulater( it helps produce the 35 HP ).
So I went to Park Ave Acura to get it checked out! And BAM i was right my actulater was not working, So i was driving a CLP this whole time. Jens and wayne were great came outside checked it said yep its not working and ordered a new one, no questions asked and only spend 5 min at the dealer, they are quick..
So the moral of this story is dont race no is's 328's or MAXIMA's before checking your actullater. It might give them a FAT heat..
Peace..
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Old May 15, 2001 | 06:56 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by StonedCL:
Since i got my car it seemed a lil slow.
My boy has a 328 is and he kept beating me.
So then this topic popped up with the actulater( it helps produce the 35 HP ).
So I went to Park Ave Acura to get it checked out! And BAM i was right my actulater was not working, So i was driving a CLP this whole time. Jens and wayne were great came outside checked it said yep its not working and ordered a new one, no questions asked and only spend 5 min at the dealer, they are quick..
So the moral of this story is dont race no is's 328's or MAXIMA's before checking your actullater. It might give them a FAT heat..
Peace..
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Glad to hear it and, BTW, it a-c-t-u-a-t-o-r.



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Old May 15, 2001 | 06:59 PM
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Is there an easy to follow procedure to find out if the actuator is working?

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Old May 15, 2001 | 07:05 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by aciurczak:
Is there an easy to follow procedure to find out if the actuator is working?

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Yep..
U need 2 people.
One person sit in the car and gets the car to 3800 RPMS and the other watches the aculater directly in the middle of the engine in behind it should open.
It should be oviouse cuz i noticed mine didnt open and i aint the sharpest tool in the shed..!

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Old May 15, 2001 | 07:48 PM
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in behind it?

do you have to take that plastic thing off to see it?

or can you just pop the hood, get someone to rev to 3800 and see it?

so its behind?, meaning i have to look from the side of the car not the front...?

i just looked and didnt see anything open..

i am stupid stupid stupid when it comes to car parts, so i have no clue what i am doing...

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Old May 15, 2001 | 07:55 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amirsafdari:
do you have to take that plastic thing off to see it?

or can you just pop the hood, get someone to rev to 3800 and see it?

so its behind?, meaning i have to look from the side of the car not the front...?


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You don't have to remove anything, just look all the way in the back, so yes, you have to look in the engine bay from the side of the car and not the front.
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Old May 15, 2001 | 08:03 PM
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ok car is in park,

little bro was taught to take the car to 4000rpm, i tried looking from both sides behind the engine, NOTHING MOVES...except when my bro lets go, i hear a puff sound like the car is letting out air...

again, i saw NOTHING MOVING, i didnt know where to look, but in general, i didnt see anything moving..

then we tried again, i told him to take it to 4200rpm, again, nothing moved or anything, AT ALL...have i been driving a CL-P this whole time??????

please help...

anyone got pics of what exactly i should be looking at..??

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Old May 15, 2001 | 08:10 PM
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OK bro chill out and breath.
If u in front of the car its behind the engine directly in the middle.
Its about the size of a fist, and behind theactulater thes is a metal piece like a quarter that opens ..
Take it to the dlr bro!
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Old May 15, 2001 | 08:13 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amirsafdari:
ok car is in park,

little bro was taught to take the car to 4000rpm, i tried looking from both sides behind the engine, NOTHING MOVES...except when my bro lets go, i hear a puff sound like the car is letting out air...

again, i saw NOTHING MOVING, i didnt know where to look, but in general, i didnt see anything moving..

then we tried again, i told him to take it to 4200rpm, again, nothing moved or anything, AT ALL...have i been driving a CL-P this whole time??????

please help...

anyone got pics of what exactly i should be looking at..??
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Here is a bad picture of what you are supposed to be looking for:

http://rrw.d2g.com/techshop/plenum1.html

You need to look at it from the passenger side back behind the engine for the easiest view. Basicly what you will see is the actuator go from straight up and down to a 45 degree angle. It basicly turns pulling a wire that in return opens the plenum. You will see a wire running up to the actuator and it will be attached at the bottom.
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Old May 15, 2001 | 08:21 PM
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just tried it again, no luck..

if i take off that plastic, can i expect to see it better?
like a lot better?

i dont hear ANY metal chipping at all either..i am gonna go take off the plastic, i am on hold for acura right noww....

i hope its broken..

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Old May 15, 2001 | 08:34 PM
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okay they told me to go tonight at 7pm, but i cant go, so i made an appointment for tomorrow at 7pm....



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Old May 15, 2001 | 08:56 PM
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ok i took the plastic off, still no moving peice..acura tomorrow, I AM COMING FOR YOU!

anyone know if there is a way of finding out if it ever did work?

StonedCL, when you get the car fixed, let us know how much you feel a difference.

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Old May 15, 2001 | 09:00 PM
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you dont' need 2 people...just a putter. you open your door and stand there with the putter positioned on the accelerator, then lean your head over and look while pushing on the putter.

oh, and don't forget to open your hood.
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Old May 15, 2001 | 09:14 PM
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Yeah, you gotta look from the side. My dad didn't see anything moving the first couple times until I made sure he was looking from the side down to the little gold metal thingy with the wire wrapped around it. The next time he saw it move.

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Old May 15, 2001 | 09:51 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mrdeeno:
you dont' need 2 people...just a putter. you open your door and stand there with the putter positioned on the accelerator, then lean your head over and look while pushing on the putter.

oh, and don't forget to open your hood.
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How bout us that dont have putters, can we use our 13 inch *packages* LOL..

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Old May 15, 2001 | 09:51 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mrdeeno:
you dont' need 2 people...just a putter. you open your door and stand there with the putter positioned on the accelerator, then lean your head over and look while pushing on the putter.

oh, and don't forget to open your hood.
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How bout us that dont have putters, can we use our 13 inch *packages* LOL..

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Old May 15, 2001 | 11:13 PM
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thanks for the help..

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Old May 15, 2001 | 11:15 PM
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I can even hear mine Click, so you can't see anything you should be able to at least hear it.

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Old May 15, 2001 | 11:46 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amirsafdari:
ok i took the plastic off, still no moving peice..acura tomorrow, I AM COMING FOR YOU!

anyone know if there is a way of finding out if it ever did work?

StonedCL, when you get the car fixed, let us know how much you feel a difference.

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man ... it was easy to see. If you didnt see anything moving ... prolly yours is dead too.

It's on top of the engine block. it faces toward the rear of the car. so if you wanna see it moves, stick your head to the side (I looked at it from the driver side) rev up and you'll see it move. btw, I check it by myself so I dont know at what rpm it starts moving.



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Old May 16, 2001 | 10:01 AM
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You guys will feel like you're driving an entirely different car once you get it fixed. It's amazing how much of a difference you feel and how much faster you get to VTEC when it is functioning properly.

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Old May 16, 2001 | 01:11 PM
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No need for two people, just open the throttle manually with your hand at the TB.
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Old May 16, 2001 | 03:34 PM
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hmmmm...this is very interesting...i will have to check mine tonite...i hope mine isnt broke either...how long did it take the dealer to fix ur actuator?
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Old May 16, 2001 | 03:42 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by beestea:
Here is a bad picture of what you are supposed to be looking for:

http://rrw.d2g.com/techshop/plenum1.html

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This link should be put in the FAQ.
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Old May 16, 2001 | 04:48 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by beestea:
Here is a bad picture of what you are supposed to be looking for:

http://rrw.d2g.com/techshop/plenum1.html
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Ah, come on. I didn't have time to get a good dig. cam. so I carried my laptop out and used a USB camera.

http://www.flwsoutheast.com/images/s...e_Image000.jpg

http://www.flwsoutheast.com/images/s...e_Image001.jpg

http://www.flwsoutheast.com/images/s...e_Image002.jpg

http://www.flwsoutheast.com/images/s...e_Image003.jpg
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Old May 16, 2001 | 10:06 PM
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I checked mine when I got home today after reading this post with concern.
Thankfully mine is working OK as it was the last time I checked a few months ago.

It’s really easy to check by yourself.
Just follow the accelerator & cruise control cables to where they end under the plastic engine cover.
Pull upward about 1/2” on the throttle plate which the cable ends are attached to.

For the record, even with my CAI I don’t hear any discernible extra noise at the 3,800 to 4,200 RPM range.

At 5,000 RPM ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE and the CAI ROARS !!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old May 16, 2001 | 10:14 PM
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Since I needed my girl there to "extend my putter", I had her hit the accelerator and it all works fine. It is almost exactly in the middle of the housing cover in the back. If you do not see it move, it os probably not working...

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Old May 17, 2001 | 12:05 AM
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God, who made these things?

It seems like every 3rd CL-S has a bad MIRC actuator.

3-month backlog !!!!!!!!


Note to Acura:

Please install special light inside instrument panel that lights up if actuator actually pulls on cable and forces micro-switch inside plenum to engage!

Call it the CL-S/CL-P driving mode indicator light.

When in CL-P mode, show picture of engine or car upside down. Reverse picture in CL-S mode.



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Old May 17, 2001 | 01:47 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by EricL:
God, who made these things?

It seems like every 3rd CL-S has a bad MIRC actuator.

3-month backlog !!!!!!!!


Note to Acura:

Please install special light inside instrument panel that lights up if actuator actually pulls on cable and forces micro-switch inside plenum to engage!

Call it the CL-S/CL-P driving mode indicator light.

When in CL-P mode, show picture of engine or car upside down. Reverse picture in CL-S mode.

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Haha... How about little flame lights that shoot out of the side of the door ajar indicator when the actuator kicks in?

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Old May 17, 2001 | 02:10 AM
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Not that I'm _that_ paranoid, but even if the actuator actually moves, this doesn't guarantee that the "flaps" (or whatever they're called) _in_ the engine actually move correctly. Now that would be a little trickier to check


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Old May 17, 2001 | 11:44 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sycd:
Not that I'm _that_ paranoid, but even if the actuator actually moves, this doesn't guarantee that the "flaps" (or whatever they're called) _in_ the engine actually move correctly. Now that would be a little trickier to check


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I think if you hear a metallic clink when you see the actuator move that's an indication that the system is working fine.
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Old May 17, 2001 | 03:55 PM
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Are you supposed to gradually increase the rpms to 3800?? I was under the impression that you got to get it there quickly and just gun it.

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Old May 17, 2001 | 09:52 PM
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Kevin,

When I tested my actuator, I had my wife gradually rev the engine to 4000 rpm before I saw the actuator rotated. So I don't think you have to "gun" it to 4000 rpm to see it move.

Rod,

As for the clinking sound that suggests the opening of the plenum, I can't hear it, but I improvised by first manually turning the actuator with the engine off. I could hear the clinking sound of the plenum opening. I then started the engine and reved it to 4000 rpm while watching for the movement of the actuator. When I saw this, it suggested that the actuator is working

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Old May 17, 2001 | 10:41 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by scalbert:
Ah, come on. I didn't have time to get a good dig. cam. so I carried my laptop out and used a USB camera.</font>
...and, yes it is your picture scalbert. It too was in the days when I was sans a good DCAM. (Days of H-A net???)

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Old May 17, 2001 | 11:30 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FDao:
I improvised by first manually turning the actuator with the engine off. I could hear the clinking sound of the plenum opening.</font>
That’s a great idea to be definitely sure that everything is working correctly.

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Old May 18, 2001 | 12:00 AM
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Shawn S,

Yeah, I figured that it should work. BTW, how do you go about in posting quotes from other members when you're responding?

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Old May 18, 2001 | 09:51 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CLS ACT:
(Days of H-A net???)

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Old May 18, 2001 | 11:35 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FDao:
Shawn S,

Yeah, I figured that it should work. BTW, how do you go about in posting quotes from other members when you're responding?

Illiterate in this area

Since Shawn may have missed this post I'll answer it. Did you notice the 4 or 5 little icons above each post? Well if you click the one with the red arrow coming out of the right side of a page of paper you get the "quote" of the message you want.

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Old May 18, 2001 | 12:02 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FDao:
Kevin,

When I tested my actuator, I had my wife gradually rev the engine to 4000 rpm before I saw the actuator rotated. So I don't think you have to "gun" it to 4000 rpm to see it move.

Rod,

As for the clinking sound that suggests the opening of the plenum, I can't hear it, but I improvised by first manually turning the actuator with the engine off. I could hear the clinking sound of the plenum opening. I then started the engine and reved it to 4000 rpm while watching for the movement of the actuator. When I saw this, it suggested that the actuator is working
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Old May 18, 2001 | 10:03 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Al Uminum:


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Old May 19, 2001 | 02:47 PM
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Checked mine both by myself and with a second person and it works. It is easy to see AND hear by yourself and it is super obvious when with a second person. My wife said it was 3750 rpm when I raised my finger to signal the actuator moved.

It happens pretty quickly and the clicking sound is way too loud to miss. I was looking from the driver's side fender. Just make sure the Strut Tower Brace is not in the way (of your view).

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