scalbert

What were the coolant and IAT readings on the before and after tests?? Since the car sat for a couple of hours I suspect that things had cooled down a bit and may impact the dyno numbers some.

Nevertheless, it was still an excellent showing and represents what can be done and seen with these cars.

Red Rider

I'll post those later Steve and i hope to have Hammerman post the dyno sheets in the next few days.

Seattle Cl-S

I just got back from the dyno. Mustang dyno. 238WHP/211TQ. I'm not sure how that translates to a Dynojet but I'm still really disappointed. I don't have a baseline so it's really up in the air what these numbers even mean. All I know is that I ran a 13.6@105 at the track so 238WHP seems very low. I can't believe that Glen is getting 52WHP more than me so something is strange.

I don't have a B-pipe and I was testing w/ the 19's on the car...the guy said the dyno wouldn't show a difference btwn 17's and 19's so I didn't bother to put them on the car.

Oh yeah, when I disconnected the IMRC, I showed the same HP but a loss of 10TQ.

Red Rider

What was the temp ??

You have everything i have except the B-Pipe, so something is wrong there. I was running a mix of fuel that put me at 95+ octane, that might be a part of it ??

Seattle Cl-S

No idea. I was running 92 straight up, but I can't believe that would make THAT much of a difference. The temp was about 75 degrees.

Remember when we raced? I had the 19's and the HBP, you had B-pipe and lightweight wheels. We were essentially dead even. Something is not right.

Also, right around 5k rpm the car A/F went into the mid-10's. Really rich - but only for a second (w/ IMRC unplugged)

I'm actually looking at the plots right now, the best numbers were:

Max Power/Torque = 238.8hp/217.9tq

All other runs showed less gains due to heat. The fan they used was really big but didn't blow much air???

mattg

that dyno is wrong, you must be in the 270 whp range.


i dyno 244/200 n/a

CLS2001_97124

Congrats Glen! Higher Oct. + HBP = WIN!

Seattle Cl-S

Well, the computer did keep freezing up and he had to reboot the software once. It was a pretty lame dyno facility, that's for sure. They tried to charge me for the 1 hr the guy spent messing around with the computer...I complained and didn't have to pay though. I'll never go there again... Blood Enterprises in Auburn.

Even 270whp would be a disappointment if Glen is getting nearly 300 w/ the HBP.

mattg

he's at 280, but he has the b-pipe. that should be good for ~10 whp.


a shop down here is having dyno days next friday and saturday. $30 for 3 pulls with a/f on a brand new dyno jet. come on down.



:edit: i see what you mean now, he should be ~300 in good conditions.

Seattle Cl-S

I would definitely be down there for that but I'm going to be in Palm Springs next wknd. for a conference (actually, my wife's conference - I'll be golfing).

mattg

if it doesn't rain i'm going 106mph tomorrow.

darrinb

try to go 100 w/o the bottle, get some n/a runs

mattg

that's the plan. it's only supposed to get up to 70 tomorrow.

darrinb

pretty good temps, i'd like to see a 13 sec n/a run..

Red Rider

Put the stock All Seasons back on and do 106 anyway

Red Rider

Lucky Bastard !!!!!!!!!!

flint

iTrader: (2)

Very nice dyno numbers.

Joe5.0

Mustang dyno's typically are 10-15% lower than the typical DynoJet number, so take that into account also. Basically Mustang dyno's are real world hp because they include loss from rolling resistance & wind resistance. DynoJets just measure what it puts out standing still spinnng the drum. For tuning purposes the MD is superior by far. If you post the graphs we can see alot better whats going on.

I wouldnt give a fawk if you had 200whp. You ran 105mph which is godamn awesome, so you're obviously making great power,and driveability is good I take it? Its just a number for tuning and bench racing, track numbers are really all that matter.

Hobo

nice numbers, glad to see more people comming up with dyno's

SCTL-SS

I do believe that you are well above those listed #s. My car dynoed 264 without the B-pipe and UR pulleys. I would suspect that you are in the 270-280 range on a Dynojet.

Red Rider

Steve, the baseline temps ranged from 94.3 at 2200 RPMs to 94.7 at 6800 RPMs.

The after dyno with the HBP temp was 91.9 all the way through.

scalbert

Those sound like the outside air temp readings. What I was wondering about were the engine coolant temps (ECT) and the intake air temps (IAT) which is actually taken within the manifold.

Red Rider

Those weren't listed on the dyno sheets.

flint

iTrader: (2)

Interesting finding on the IMRC actually costing you some torque when unplugged.

darrinb

ay flint r u gonna do the max boost pulley that brad had from payne tech???

flint

iTrader: (2)

doubt it. I'm sick of breaking pos tranny's.

darrinb

might as well, they are gonna go some time or another

flint

iTrader: (2)

true and everytime I say I'm not going to do something I end up with it. How do you think it will effect the motor long term? Its about 8 psi boost right?

darrinb

long term no one knows cause we havent had anyone with it on for a long time, but are other cars on the forum over or around the 400 whp mark so u should be alright, i'd give it a try.

with lighter wheels, the new pulley and the e-man u can def be in he high 12's

flint

iTrader: (2)

high 12's are tempting......I need to see what i can do when the weather cools off and I switch back to my stock wheels. I really haven't had a chance to run since I added the b-pipe and cooling mods.

97Acura3.0CL

glad to hear about the HBP Glenn

ever thought of putting on the UniChip for the SC??? or would it benefit you at all?

whats the higher octane running you per gallon?

scalbert

I beleive abotu 8 PSI.

I wouldn't suggest running 8 PSI without an intercooler or running 100+ octane all of the time. You would be well above the octane requirements at that point and only a cooler charge or increasing the octane rating will help.

Potentially you could run the E-Manage and dump enough fuel to curb deto. But it would be so rich that any power gained through more boost would be lost to being overly rich.

scalbert

Only on the 6MT though. No 5AT with the blower has broken the 300 WHP mark, yet. But maybe in the next couple of weeks we should see one or two.

scalbert

Considering it hasn't been programmed for the blown J32A2, the Unichip is irrelevant. Plus, with what has been seen thus far the Unichip is not worthwhile on the blown cars.

Red Rider

Thanks Bro. I may consider the E-Manage.

100 Octane is $6 per gallon. The place i've started to get it at said they would now give me a regular user discount down to $5.40 Not cheap, but the throttle response and boost have really picked up By the way, i'm gonna run 60/40% 100/91 octane

Red Rider

As soon as it's cooler here in Sacramento ( Probably November ) i'll re dyno at Comptech. I hope to be at 300 WHP based on my previous dyno of 269 pre B-Pipe and HBP which just gave me a 31 WHP boost.