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10-15-2003, 05:35 AM
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Hid Fog
Has anyone done a TRUE (not fake blue bulbs) High Intensity Discharge lighting conversion on the road lamps? I was thinking about dropping in 2 8500K Xenon systems in the fog lamps. I can't stand the yellow color of the fogs 
contrasting with the blue/white/purple glow of the HID head lamps. I'm pretty sure it is possible because HID's run at a lower wattage than standard halogen bulbs. Therefore creating less heat, so the plastic assembly of the fog lamps wouldn't be a problem. I assume?
contrasting with the blue/white/purple glow of the HID head lamps. I'm pretty sure it is possible because HID's run at a lower wattage than standard halogen bulbs. Therefore creating less heat, so the plastic assembly of the fog lamps wouldn't be a problem. I assume?
10-15-2003, 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by Beetroot
thinking it would be a ton of $$ to do that for not all that much result
thinking it would be a ton of $$ to do that for not all that much result
10-15-2003, 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by Beetroot
only $300? thats not too bad. what do you plan on using can you post a pic or a link?
only $300? thats not too bad. what do you plan on using can you post a pic or a link?
10-15-2003, 06:10 AM
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Originally posted by Beetroot
check out the hella micros too...this would take replacing the whole road lamp not just the bulb, but I heard these look pretty nice.
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check out the hella micros too...this would take replacing the whole road lamp not just the bulb, but I heard these look pretty nice.
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Hmmmmmmmm.. i like those too.. i wonder if i could somehow mount those inside the road lamps..
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I think someone did this already and it melted the housing....but im not sure. I think his name on here was infamuz or something like that...but if you do it let us know the results and you need to post pics! 
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http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=70394 look here...this is where he got them done...but I cant rember the outcome...I think they melted but im not 100%
10-15-2003, 08:41 AM
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this is not really the same thing as putting in HID, but I just swapped my 01 road lamps for the black plastic housing in the 03, and I am going to mount some PIAA driving lamps in there. I saw it done with the hella micros and it looked really good.
10-15-2003, 08:49 AM
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Not HID but I did the same thing as Beetroot is doing...
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...92524586geBxrC
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...89451735xbFvbC
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...92524586geBxrC
http://community.webshots.com/photo/...89451735xbFvbC
10-15-2003, 08:57 AM
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hey fuzzy that looks really good...exactly what I am doing. are those 001 solitaires?
I'm putting mine in this weekend...it seems pretty straight forward...did you have any problems? Have any advice?
I'm putting mine in this weekend...it seems pretty straight forward...did you have any problems? Have any advice?
10-15-2003, 09:03 AM
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what kind of bulbs I can put in there so it would look close to headlights (not yellow)
I m sure there is something with lower wattage what (what brand and what size)?
I m sure there is something with lower wattage what (what brand and what size)?
10-15-2003, 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by GoldieAlek
what kind of bulbs I can put in there so it would look close to headlights (not yellow)
I m sure there is something with lower wattage what (what brand and what size)?
what kind of bulbs I can put in there so it would look close to headlights (not yellow)
I m sure there is something with lower wattage what (what brand and what size)?
any 168 wedge bulb. do a search you will find tons of info.
10-15-2003, 10:20 AM
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Originally posted by Beetroot
hey fuzzy that looks really good...exactly what I am doing. are those 001 solitaires?
I'm putting mine in this weekend...it seems pretty straight forward...did you have any problems? Have any advice?
hey fuzzy that looks really good...exactly what I am doing. are those 001 solitaires?
I'm putting mine in this weekend...it seems pretty straight forward...did you have any problems? Have any advice?
Hey, check out this site, it has excellent information modifying the color(s) that are projected through the use of HIDs and projector elipsids. http://www.geocities.com/jvxdriver/h...ector_beam.htm
10-15-2003, 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by withoutcomp1
It will melt the lens, i know someone who did it, otherwise i would have done it a long time ago.
It will melt the lens, i know someone who did it, otherwise i would have done it a long time ago.
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He's right...HID's in the roadlamps will melt the fogs
I just got the Hella Micro DE HID fogs installed this weekend..they look amazing
take a look on the second page
I just got the Hella Micro DE HID fogs installed this weekend..they look amazing
take a look on the second page
10-15-2003, 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by withoutcomp1
It will melt the lens, i know someone who did it, otherwise i would have done it a long time ago.
It will melt the lens, i know someone who did it, otherwise i would have done it a long time ago.
You talking about Infamuz...I know he did it and I think they melted the housing...and I think he is in NJ.
10-17-2003, 05:23 AM
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Originally posted by J.T.'s 3.2TL
That sucks it will melt the housing. Has anyone elese done this with no problems?
That sucks it will melt the housing. Has anyone elese done this with no problems?
http://www.geocities.com/jvxdriver/d...conversion.htm
10-17-2003, 06:13 AM
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I installed the Hella micro DE xenon foglights but I put them in the grill medial to the road lamps. I still have the road lamps in place but just changed the bulbs to a whiter color (PIAA). They are only for show anyways. . . I got the Hellas for about 450 on a VW jetta site.
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I put the Micro DE's in, and changed the bulbs to PIAA Xtreme White H3's...matches perfectly at night, but for some reason during the day they tend to look a little yellow, especially when they are dirty...
I would have purchased the Xenon DE's but I thought they were DRIVING lights, and not fogs? Am I wrong on this?
I would have purchased the Xenon DE's but I thought they were DRIVING lights, and not fogs? Am I wrong on this?
10-17-2003, 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by Beetroot
polarG m6, piaa 19224
any 168 wedge bulb. do a search you will find tons of info.
polarG m6, piaa 19224
any 168 wedge bulb. do a search you will find tons of info.
do you know what color will match close to stock headlights?
thanks
10-17-2003, 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by GoldieAlek
piaa 19224 wont melt anything right?
do you know what color will match close to stock headlights?
thanks
piaa 19224 wont melt anything right?
do you know what color will match close to stock headlights?
thanks
no, they won't melt anything. I had them for a few months with nothing bad happening. I don't remember what the exact color was, hyper white maybe? extreme white? something like that I think. The actual bulb was blue and the light looked pretty close to the HID color.
10-17-2003, 08:37 AM
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Real HID(s) with Ballasts, or just the Higher watt blue bulbs? Because the Real HID(s) run at a lower wattage = less heat.
Real HID(s) with Ballasts, or just the Higher watt blue bulbs? Because the Real HID(s) run at a lower wattage = less heat.
As for heat, HID bulbs are actually VERY hot at the capsule/arc. It's advantage is the lack of a metal filament to radiate the heat. If there's insufficient distance between the capsule and the surrounding plastic housing, the housing will distort/melt.
10-17-2003, 08:55 AM
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USC, Good post- you beat me to the punch. What these guys seem to be missing is the fact that wattage is not the biggest factor here, it's the dissapation of heat. HID's get MUCH hotter due to the nature of design, it's creating a friggin' PLAZMA beam!
10-17-2003, 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by rice cookr
USC, Good post- you beat me to the punch. What these guys seem to be missing is the fact that wattage is not the biggest factor here, it's the dissapation of heat. HID's get MUCH hotter due to the nature of design, it's creating a friggin' PLAZMA beam!
USC, Good post- you beat me to the punch. What these guys seem to be missing is the fact that wattage is not the biggest factor here, it's the dissapation of heat. HID's get MUCH hotter due to the nature of design, it's creating a friggin' PLAZMA beam!
so are you saying that these aftermarket 60-80 watt "hyper" bulbs are running cooler than HID's? I've seen more people burn out light sockets with these HIGH WATT advance auto special bulbs, than any true HID system. And a PLAZA beam? Where did that come from? When a voltage is applied across the HID gas capsule, it initiates an arc of ionised Xenon gas, which heats the enclosed metallic salts to vaporisation point. Once vaporisation of the salts has occurred, then the HID capsule produces its full light output. I'm not arguing the fact that HID bulbs get hot, because they do. But if installed properly, I don't think is should be an issue. The most important thing to remember is that the gas-filled capsule of HID bulb MUST fit inside the foglight housing at the same focal point as the original H3 halogen bulb. Otherwise, the bulb will be in a position to which it could cause damage to the actual plastic casing. This can be achieved with the use of heat resistant washers (as suggested) for spacing purposes. If your still confused about wattage creating more heat, GE (general electric) has been nice enough to post a site about lighting basics. http://www.gelighting.com/na/faq/basic_heat.html
10-17-2003, 09:47 AM
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yes, the 60-80W bulbs run cooler at the filament than at the arc of and HID. The reason the halogen bulbs melt the harness is because, as i'm sure you know, the filament is a resistor and the heat is translated back through the wiring. whereas in the capsule of the HID, it's just gas and ignited salt crystals, not a resistor that ends up harboring a lot of heat.
for the most part, any headlamp housing designed for halogens lamps (9006/9005/h4/h1/h3) should be able to handle the heat produced by the D2 bulbs of HID. but the CLS didn't come with 9006-fogs so therefore, Honda didn't have to use the higher temp-resistant plastic to form these. Stick a D2 in there and you got yourself a problem of melting the housing. (note "housing", not wiring/harness like high-wattage halogen replacements)
for the most part, any headlamp housing designed for halogens lamps (9006/9005/h4/h1/h3) should be able to handle the heat produced by the D2 bulbs of HID. but the CLS didn't come with 9006-fogs so therefore, Honda didn't have to use the higher temp-resistant plastic to form these. Stick a D2 in there and you got yourself a problem of melting the housing. (note "housing", not wiring/harness like high-wattage halogen replacements)
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by usc
[B]yes, the 60-80W bulbs run cooler at the filament than at the arc of and HID.....
Gotcha... I think I'll just leave them alone, I'm not gonna risk burning up my plastic housings and having a potential mess on my hands. Thanks for the advice.
[B]yes, the 60-80W bulbs run cooler at the filament than at the arc of and HID.....
Gotcha... I think I'll just leave them alone, I'm not gonna risk burning up my plastic housings and having a potential mess on my hands. Thanks for the advice.
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check out st2000 pics..he had some hella micro with his custom grills on it...sorry i can't find the link righ tnow..but look him up...he had a badass set up if that helps any of yall
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