Here is how your engine makes 260 HP from 3.2 liters
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I've glanced over this thread and two words come to mind...
"Who cares"
I liked the information about the 3.2L VTEC engine. Everything that has come after is a big waste of time.
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"Who cares"
I liked the information about the 3.2L VTEC engine. Everything that has come after is a big waste of time.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by saabman4ever:
Hey, MORON, you wake up! What book are you reading now? Where did you get those numbers? Are you confusing a Viggen or convertible with what I posted? I have a 9-3 SE HOT (High-output Turbo). It's MSRP is $32,595. Check edmunds.com or saabusa.com. That's $32,595 loaded with leather (real leather),OnStar, 6 speaker system, in dash cd, traction control plus others too long to list. The only options are 4spd auto tranny, heated seats and metallic paint. You usually have your nose stuck in a magazine. I'm suprised you missed this one.
As for the force fed vs NA argument, I didn't know that argument existed. If you re-read my original post, I wasn't making any claims or bragging. I was asking a question.
Can everyone now see how gavrill has a knack for pissing people off with his condescending and eliteist attitude?
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Hey, MORON, you wake up! What book are you reading now? Where did you get those numbers? Are you confusing a Viggen or convertible with what I posted? I have a 9-3 SE HOT (High-output Turbo). It's MSRP is $32,595. Check edmunds.com or saabusa.com. That's $32,595 loaded with leather (real leather),OnStar, 6 speaker system, in dash cd, traction control plus others too long to list. The only options are 4spd auto tranny, heated seats and metallic paint. You usually have your nose stuck in a magazine. I'm suprised you missed this one.
As for the force fed vs NA argument, I didn't know that argument existed. If you re-read my original post, I wasn't making any claims or bragging. I was asking a question.
Can everyone now see how gavrill has a knack for pissing people off with his condescending and eliteist attitude?
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Saab loser, first of all, I did not call you any names till now which is after you did. Get your Saab and get to your Saabloser board OK?
For some reason, I thought you were driving a cabrio Saab SE. Sue me you ass. If you are not, then just say so, dont call names.
As for the fact that supposedly you are not aware that there is something called the "NA vs. Forced Fed" never ending argument, I suggest you start reading everything that happened since 1980 in the engine tech department. There is a lot of good info somewhere in there. Yeah it is in the books, the ones I read. The ones that people have to read before they have any chance getting a job at Acura. Not go to the track.
Finally, someone called you the unbiased voice or reason (I think it was Eclipse).
And I ask again. How can you carry the name Saabman4ever and be considered unbiased? Saab for ever? What kinda of a super biased narrow minded statement is that?
What is this? Saab gives you money or something?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TakeFlight:
I've glanced over this thread and two words come to mind...
"Who cares"
I liked the information about the 3.2L VTEC engine. Everything that has come after is a big waste of time.
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I've glanced over this thread and two words come to mind...
"Who cares"
I liked the information about the 3.2L VTEC engine. Everything that has come after is a big waste of time.
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Thank you sir. Could not have said it better myself.
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i saw this whole thread a couple nights ago and oowwaha~! thats a lot of reading! i said to myself..so i put it off for later...and now, it is 5 pages long, and i have no idea what you guys are talking about 
i regret not following this thread, and saving for later...
can someone sum up what is going on in about 4 or 5 words?
thanks, i dont start school till sept. i dont want to do any hardcore reading till then...
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can someone sum up what is going on in about 4 or 5 words?
thanks, i dont start school till sept. i dont want to do any hardcore reading till then...
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05-14-2001, 11:56 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by amirsafdari:
can someone sum up what is going on in about 4 or 5 words?
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can someone sum up what is going on in about 4 or 5 words?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gavriil:
Saab loser, first of all, I did not call you any names till now which is after you did. Get your Saab and get to your Saabloser board OK?
For some reason, I thought you were driving a cabrio Saab SE. Sue me you ass. If you are not, then just say so, dont call names.
As for the fact that supposedly you are not aware that there is something called the "NA vs. Forced Fed" never ending argument, I suggest you start reading everything that happened since 1980 in the engine tech department. There is a lot of good info somewhere in there. Yeah it is in the books, the ones I read. The ones that people have to read before they have any chance getting a job at Acura. Not go to the track.
Finally, someone called you the unbiased voice or reason (I think it was Eclipse).
And I ask again. How can you carry the name Saabman4ever and be considered unbiased? Saab for ever? What kinda of a super biased narrow minded statement is that?
What is this? Saab gives you money or something?
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Saab loser, first of all, I did not call you any names till now which is after you did. Get your Saab and get to your Saabloser board OK?
For some reason, I thought you were driving a cabrio Saab SE. Sue me you ass. If you are not, then just say so, dont call names.
As for the fact that supposedly you are not aware that there is something called the "NA vs. Forced Fed" never ending argument, I suggest you start reading everything that happened since 1980 in the engine tech department. There is a lot of good info somewhere in there. Yeah it is in the books, the ones I read. The ones that people have to read before they have any chance getting a job at Acura. Not go to the track.
Finally, someone called you the unbiased voice or reason (I think it was Eclipse).
And I ask again. How can you carry the name Saabman4ever and be considered unbiased? Saab for ever? What kinda of a super biased narrow minded statement is that?
What is this? Saab gives you money or something?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tom2:
Sure, plenty of them. But not directly, only as a subcontractor.
What are you getting at here?
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Sure, plenty of them. But not directly, only as a subcontractor.
What are you getting at here?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gavriil:
Saab loser, first of all, I did not call you any names till now which is after you did. Get your Saab and get to your Saabloser board OK?
For some reason, I thought you were driving a cabrio Saab SE. Sue me you ass. If you are not, then just say so, dont call names.
As for the fact that supposedly you are not aware that there is something called the "NA vs. Forced Fed" never ending argument, I suggest you start reading everything that happened since 1980 in the engine tech department. There is a lot of good info somewhere in there. Yeah it is in the books, the ones I read. The ones that people have to read before they have any chance getting a job at Acura. Not go to the track.
Finally, someone called you the unbiased voice or reason (I think it was Eclipse).
And I ask again. How can you carry the name Saabman4ever and be considered unbiased? Saab for ever? What kinda of a super biased narrow minded statement is that?
What is this? Saab gives you money or something?
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Saab loser, first of all, I did not call you any names till now which is after you did. Get your Saab and get to your Saabloser board OK?
For some reason, I thought you were driving a cabrio Saab SE. Sue me you ass. If you are not, then just say so, dont call names.
As for the fact that supposedly you are not aware that there is something called the "NA vs. Forced Fed" never ending argument, I suggest you start reading everything that happened since 1980 in the engine tech department. There is a lot of good info somewhere in there. Yeah it is in the books, the ones I read. The ones that people have to read before they have any chance getting a job at Acura. Not go to the track.
Finally, someone called you the unbiased voice or reason (I think it was Eclipse).
And I ask again. How can you carry the name Saabman4ever and be considered unbiased? Saab for ever? What kinda of a super biased narrow minded statement is that?
What is this? Saab gives you money or something?
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Gavriil, I don't like you. You are a smug, unhappy little man and you think you have the right answer for everything. It's funny, at one point I was on your side. I enjoyed reading your posts. Really. But after reading more and more of your inane observations and reading the vitriolic replies to anyone who dare challenge what you say, it has helped me to realize what other members of this board were talking about in reference to you. You ASSumed what I was driving and made it a point to bash me based on that. As for being unbiased, I meant unbiased when talking about the BMW vs Acura discussion. I'll defend my choice of car against an ignoramus such as yourself when you make false or inaccurate statements about it.
As for reading "everything that's happened since the 1980's" about automotive engineering, I'll decline. You see, I have a life, something apparently you sorely lack. While your head is buried in piles of autoweek, C&D, Road & Track, and endless tapings of speedvision, I'll be out. Doing something.
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05-15-2001, 12:49 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by saabman4ever:
As for reading "everything that's happened since the 1980's" about automotive engineering, I'll decline. You see, I have a life, something apparently you sorely lack. While your head is buried in piles of autoweek, C&D, Road & Track, and endless tapings of speedvision, I'll be out. Doing something.
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As for reading "everything that's happened since the 1980's" about automotive engineering, I'll decline. You see, I have a life, something apparently you sorely lack. While your head is buried in piles of autoweek, C&D, Road & Track, and endless tapings of speedvision, I'll be out. Doing something.
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People that name themselves "Saab for ever" are the ones with no life. You act like a cult member, "I'll die for Saab man....Saab RULES", etc. At least I have stated that the moment another auto manufacturer comes with a better deal in the luxury GT category...bye, bye Acura. If not, then here I will stay.
As for me thinking that you were driving a cabrio 9-3, I apologize for that. The Sebring convertible discussion I opened as an answer to your post must have threw me off. I should have apologized on my previous message.
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05-15-2001, 01:40 PM
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All of a guys are too funny.
Gavrill, Eclipse, SaabMan, Tom2 you guys are trying to be such tough stuff online, and I would bet that no such aggresive behavior will exist in person. There is no way in hell you guys would go after each other like this in person, so I think the same curtesy should apply online. Dont talk smack, whats the point, facts only please. Although this is deffinetly entertaining, dont push this too far. Unbiased, biased, half-assed, WHO CARES?
Just enjoy.
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The one thing that unites all human beings, regardless of age, gender, religion, economic status or ethnic background, is that deep down inside, we ALL believe that we are above average drivers.
Gavrill, Eclipse, SaabMan, Tom2 you guys are trying to be such tough stuff online, and I would bet that no such aggresive behavior will exist in person. There is no way in hell you guys would go after each other like this in person, so I think the same curtesy should apply online. Dont talk smack, whats the point, facts only please. Although this is deffinetly entertaining, dont push this too far. Unbiased, biased, half-assed, WHO CARES?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by eclipse23:
M3sins and Gavrill I need you two to do me a favor, you both live close to each other:
*******(FOR GAVRILL'S EYES ONLY}***********
Please verify the width of M3Sin's front tire by placing your head even with the pavement and eyeing' it up.
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Please get in your car, place the gear in first and MASH THE GAS.
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M3sins and Gavrill I need you two to do me a favor, you both live close to each other:
*******(FOR GAVRILL'S EYES ONLY}***********
Please verify the width of M3Sin's front tire by placing your head even with the pavement and eyeing' it up.
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Please get in your car, place the gear in first and MASH THE GAS.
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Sounds like a great plan to me!!!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big_Pimp's_Type_S:
All of a guys are too funny.
Gavrill, Eclipse, SaabMan, Tom2 you guys are trying to be such tough stuff online, and I would bet that no such aggresive behavior will exist in person. There is no way in hell you guys would go after each other like this in person, so I think the same curtesy should apply online. Dont talk smack, whats the point, facts only please. Although this is deffinetly entertaining, dont push this too far. Unbiased, biased, half-assed, WHO CARES?
Just enjoy.
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All of a guys are too funny.
Gavrill, Eclipse, SaabMan, Tom2 you guys are trying to be such tough stuff online, and I would bet that no such aggresive behavior will exist in person. There is no way in hell you guys would go after each other like this in person, so I think the same curtesy should apply online. Dont talk smack, whats the point, facts only please. Although this is deffinetly entertaining, dont push this too far. Unbiased, biased, half-assed, WHO CARES?
Just enjoy.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big_Pimp's_Type_S:
All of a guys are too funny.
Gavrill, Eclipse, SaabMan, Tom2 you guys are trying to be such tough stuff online, and I would bet that no such aggresive behavior will exist in person. There is no way in hell you guys would go after each other like this in person, so I think the same curtesy should apply online. Dont talk smack, whats the point, facts only please. Although this is deffinetly entertaining, dont push this too far. Unbiased, biased, half-assed, WHO CARES?
Just enjoy.
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All of a guys are too funny.
Gavrill, Eclipse, SaabMan, Tom2 you guys are trying to be such tough stuff online, and I would bet that no such aggresive behavior will exist in person. There is no way in hell you guys would go after each other like this in person, so I think the same curtesy should apply online. Dont talk smack, whats the point, facts only please. Although this is deffinetly entertaining, dont push this too far. Unbiased, biased, half-assed, WHO CARES?
Just enjoy.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by TL_Type_S:
<smile> A little defensive, aren't we?
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<smile> A little defensive, aren't we?
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If you want to know so much about my job, I just want to know why. That's not being defensive.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Big_Pimp's_Type_S:
All of a guys are too funny.
Gavrill, Eclipse, SaabMan, Tom2 you guys are trying to be such tough stuff online, and I would bet that no such aggresive behavior will exist in person. </font>
All of a guys are too funny.
Gavrill, Eclipse, SaabMan, Tom2 you guys are trying to be such tough stuff online, and I would bet that no such aggresive behavior will exist in person. </font>
Am I a tough guy? No, not at all. Nobody on this forum has ever gotten me so angry that I wanted to smash their face. Actually, the only way to get me to that point is to threaten me or hit me first, then I'm a totally different person. I would hope that you are the same way in real life too.
That being said, I have nothing against gavriil, eclipse, Jayru or anyone else on this forum. Sure, gavriil buries his nose in the books, eclipse likes to be very argumentative with me and Jayru just likes to call me a BMW "prick". LOL, that's okay. I'm sure they're all good guys in "real" life.
If we didn't have all these different personalities on this board, it would be boring.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by eclipse23:
*******(FOR GAVRILL'S EYES ONLY}***********
Please verify the width of M3Sin's front tire by placing your head even with the pavement and eyeing' it up.
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********(FOR M3SIN'S EYES ONLY)************
Please get in your car, place the gear in first and MASH THE GAS.
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Please get in your car, place the gear in first and MASH THE GAS.
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Whoah looks like I've missed a big fight.
Everybody kiss and make up.
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I agree. The nature of this thing called the internet amplifies this behavior. Which I see as an advantage though. People speak their mind at a much higher % than if they were face to face. Which sucks. Say whatever you want with no other issues in the middle obstructing expression. Then everyone knows what everyone else really thinks about things.
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Why is this thread still continuing, there hasn't been a post related to the topic in like 100 posts.. people are just pis*ing back and forth at each other at this point and it is old (not getting old but is old).. thanks
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I cannot believe that this thread had more than 530 hits and almost 140 replies without anyone really saying anything of value about the real topic here which is our engine and all the good stuff I found. This really makes me reconsider if I should be posting anything at all here of value. You guys think ego is more important to this board than our cars and cars in general. Well...it is your choice.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by gavriil:
I cannot believe that this thread had more than 530 hits and almost 140 replies without anyone really saying anything of value about the real topic here which is our engine and all the good stuff I found. This really makes me reconsider if I should be posting anything at all here of value. You guys think ego is more important to this board than our cars and cars in general. Well...it is your choice.
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I cannot believe that this thread had more than 530 hits and almost 140 replies without anyone really saying anything of value about the real topic here which is our engine and all the good stuff I found. This really makes me reconsider if I should be posting anything at all here of value. You guys think ego is more important to this board than our cars and cars in general. Well...it is your choice.
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I kinda veered the subject off its original topic, but its not my fault that it stayed off topic.
Even though you post some good info occasionally, most people here don't really care to read it or comment on it. If I'm wrong, then you'd have many replies that do relate to the original topic.
Just like your post on the SS tranny-- none of the replies has anything to do with the original topic.
Sorry to say it, but you probably are wasting your time.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">You guys think ego is more important to this board than our cars and cars in general. Well...it is your choice.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by eclipse23:
And we can all tell you have been posting nothing but facts in this thread and no ego-driven posts
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And we can all tell you have been posting nothing but facts in this thread and no ego-driven posts
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tom2:
Hey, this should obviously tell you something....
I kinda veered the subject off its original topic, but its not my fault that it stayed off topic.
Even though you post some good info occasionally, most people here don't really care to read it or comment on it. If I'm wrong, then you'd have many replies that do relate to the original topic.
Just like your post on the SS tranny-- none of the replies has anything to do with the original topic.
Sorry to say it, but you probably are wasting your time.
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Hey, this should obviously tell you something....
I kinda veered the subject off its original topic, but its not my fault that it stayed off topic.
Even though you post some good info occasionally, most people here don't really care to read it or comment on it. If I'm wrong, then you'd have many replies that do relate to the original topic.
Just like your post on the SS tranny-- none of the replies has anything to do with the original topic.
Sorry to say it, but you probably are wasting your time.
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Yeah, that'll definitely get some serious "hits"
Hey, even if this entire thread is off topic, I still vote it as one of the best threads of all time on this forum!
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Yeah, that'll definitely get some serious "hits"
Hey, even if this entire thread is off topic, I still vote it as one of the best threads of all time on this forum!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tom2:
I'm an automotive engineer.
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I'm an automotive engineer.
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What specific area is an automotive engineered classified in. I know there are EE, IE, ME, Design, Production, Process, Quality, etc. engineers but where does a general automotive fall. Even in the above-mentioned categories these are even different, you may have a degreed ME who is also a Quality engineer.
If it gets into the design aspect this has a whole new group of categories, many MEs will get into powertrain development or similar but many not have a clue when it comes to engine controls which is probably handled by an EE.
This is an honest question, but what I would guess at is on the postproduction side. A step or two (maybe more) above the shop technician.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by scalbert:
This is a pure question out of curiosity due to my part in the automotive manufacturing and testing world.
What specific area is an automotive engineered classified in. I know there are EE, IE, ME, Design, Production, Process, Quality, etc. engineers but where does a general automotive fall. Even in the above-mentioned categories these are even different, you may have a degreed ME who is also a Quality engineer.
If it gets into the design aspect this has a whole new group of categories, many MEs will get into powertrain development or similar but many not have a clue when it comes to engine controls which is probably handled by an EE.
This is an honest question, but what I would guess at is on the postproduction side. A step or two (maybe more) above the shop technician.</font>
This is a pure question out of curiosity due to my part in the automotive manufacturing and testing world.
What specific area is an automotive engineered classified in. I know there are EE, IE, ME, Design, Production, Process, Quality, etc. engineers but where does a general automotive fall. Even in the above-mentioned categories these are even different, you may have a degreed ME who is also a Quality engineer.
If it gets into the design aspect this has a whole new group of categories, many MEs will get into powertrain development or similar but many not have a clue when it comes to engine controls which is probably handled by an EE.
This is an honest question, but what I would guess at is on the postproduction side. A step or two (maybe more) above the shop technician.</font>
Hey Tom, I think scalbert is calling you out! I sense a hint of skepticism in his post. Are you gonna take that?!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by saabman4ever:
Hey Tom, I think scalbert is calling you out! I sense a hint of skepticism in his post. Are you gonna take that?!
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Hey Tom, I think scalbert is calling you out! I sense a hint of skepticism in his post. Are you gonna take that?!
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Again, just curious as I enjoy most that is automotive starting from design through manufacturing to driving...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by scalbert:
This is a pure question out of curiosity due to my part in the automotive manufacturing and testing world.
What specific area is an automotive engineered classified in. I know there are EE, IE, ME, Design, Production, Process, Quality, etc. engineers but where does a general automotive fall. Even in the above-mentioned categories these are even different, you may have a degreed ME who is also a Quality engineer.
If it gets into the design aspect this has a whole new group of categories, many MEs will get into powertrain development or similar but many not have a clue when it comes to engine controls which is probably handled by an EE.
This is an honest question, but what I would guess at is on the postproduction side. A step or two (maybe more) above the shop technician.</font>
This is a pure question out of curiosity due to my part in the automotive manufacturing and testing world.
What specific area is an automotive engineered classified in. I know there are EE, IE, ME, Design, Production, Process, Quality, etc. engineers but where does a general automotive fall. Even in the above-mentioned categories these are even different, you may have a degreed ME who is also a Quality engineer.
If it gets into the design aspect this has a whole new group of categories, many MEs will get into powertrain development or similar but many not have a clue when it comes to engine controls which is probably handled by an EE.
This is an honest question, but what I would guess at is on the postproduction side. A step or two (maybe more) above the shop technician.</font>
I have a decent background in EE and ME and enjoy learning all aspects of the business. Others like to specialize in one particular area.
Also, you've really gotta have respect for the top auto techs. The good guys today have to know what an engineer had to know 15 years ago.
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The 5 HP Briggs engine on my go-cart was the greatest engine of all time, end of discussion. When it broke down you just hit it with a big hammer to get it going again.
Just thought I would jump in, this is the longest thread I have ever seen.
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I've got an idea...you should compare torque/liter too. That'll even out the comparison somewhat. Because 4 cylinders..make more power via revving higher..but still have low torque..as you add more cylinders..revs tend to drop , but torque tends to increase. A car isn't just hp...torque is a major component too, right!?!
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tom2:
If you took the time to read this thread from the start, you'd realize that it was NOT implies that there are a lot of 3.2L engines making 260 HP.
Did you ever think that there are not a ton a different 3.2L engines at all?
I don't want to beat this to death, but the only way to compare power output among engines is by horsepower per liter. If you need examples, scroll back and start reading.
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If you took the time to read this thread from the start, you'd realize that it was NOT implies that there are a lot of 3.2L engines making 260 HP.
Did you ever think that there are not a ton a different 3.2L engines at all?
I don't want to beat this to death, but the only way to compare power output among engines is by horsepower per liter. If you need examples, scroll back and start reading.
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I also think that the rest of this topic is a bunch of BS. I don't know why you guys started a war. All Gavrill did was post some very good info on how our engines make 260hp. I think that you guys also need to stop flaming him for getting a lot of his info from books and magazines. I find some very useful information in these. I am not trying to start any flames, just letting you guys know how I feel.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by chizad1980:
I also think that the rest of this topic is a bunch of BS. I don't know why you guys started a war. All Gavrill did was post some very good info on how our engines make 260hp. I think that you guys also need to stop flaming him for getting a lot of his info from books and magazines. I find some very useful information in these. I am not trying to start any flames, just letting you guys know how I feel.
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I also think that the rest of this topic is a bunch of BS. I don't know why you guys started a war. All Gavrill did was post some very good info on how our engines make 260hp. I think that you guys also need to stop flaming him for getting a lot of his info from books and magazines. I find some very useful information in these. I am not trying to start any flames, just letting you guys know how I feel.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Hooch:
The 5 HP Briggs engine on my go-cart was the greatest engine of all time, end of discussion. When it broke down you just hit it with a big hammer to get it going again.
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The 5 HP Briggs engine on my go-cart was the greatest engine of all time, end of discussion. When it broke down you just hit it with a big hammer to get it going again.
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Briggs&Stratton had nothing on my Eager-1 .. in my old Craftsman --> it was a solid four-cycle, 5.5 hp w/ RWD and shift on the fly speed adjust (w/ locking differential in the straightaways). You guys are smokin' crack if you think the B&S setup is the best one out there! Let's compare apples to apples people... jeeez
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tom2:
Nope. It's called "inquisitive".
If you want to know so much about my job, I just want to know why. That's not being defensive.
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Nope. It's called "inquisitive".
If you want to know so much about my job, I just want to know why. That's not being defensive.
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