Got Boost? Yea Baby! The '03 TL-S is Blown!
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Originally posted by CLS2001_97124
Nice setup!!! The more auto I see with S/C, the more I want to get one myself!!!
Nice setup!!! The more auto I see with S/C, the more I want to get one myself!!!
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Originally posted by darrinb
here
http://www.tonyromas.com/tonyromaslo...ntry=USA&ST=MI
i think they are building one over here, but i only eat there when i'm on vacation. best food i have ever eaten!!!
here
http://www.tonyromas.com/tonyromaslo...ntry=USA&ST=MI
i think they are building one over here, but i only eat there when i'm on vacation. best food i have ever eaten!!!
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That looks like a pretty strange setup too. I don't know I've ever seen a Roots style blower bolted in-line with the intake. Usually it sits on top of the intake and acts as the upper plenum. I'm assuming they designed it that way so that it would fit under the OEM hood and I'm sure the dual stage intake helps out with efficiency.
Is it a twin screw? What psi are you pushing right now? Is is intercooled? How's the blower whine?
Just curious because I might consider it if I have some money later this year.
Is it a twin screw? What psi are you pushing right now? Is is intercooled? How's the blower whine?
Just curious because I might consider it if I have some money later this year.
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Originally posted by jtkz13
That looks like a pretty strange setup too. I don't know I've ever seen a Roots style blower bolted in-line with the intake. Usually it sits on top of the intake and acts as the upper plenum. I'm assuming they designed it that way so that it would fit under the OEM hood and I'm sure the dual stage intake helps out with efficiency.
Is it a twin screw? What psi are you pushing right now? Is is intercooled? How's the blower whine?
Just curious because I might consider it if I have some money later this year.
That looks like a pretty strange setup too. I don't know I've ever seen a Roots style blower bolted in-line with the intake. Usually it sits on top of the intake and acts as the upper plenum. I'm assuming they designed it that way so that it would fit under the OEM hood and I'm sure the dual stage intake helps out with efficiency.
Is it a twin screw? What psi are you pushing right now? Is is intercooled? How's the blower whine?
Just curious because I might consider it if I have some money later this year.
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Dayum, only 4 1/2 psi huh I guess that's what you get for buying a high compression engine. :o
A nice 9:1 compression ratio and about 10 psi with race gas would move nicely.
It looks like a pretty quality kit. If someone didn't know much about cars they might think it's just another factory accessory.
A nice 9:1 compression ratio and about 10 psi with race gas would move nicely.
It looks like a pretty quality kit. If someone didn't know much about cars they might think it's just another factory accessory.
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Originally posted by jtkz13
Dayum, only 4 1/2 psi huh I guess that's what you get for buying a high compression engine. :o
A nice 9:1 compression ratio and about 10 psi with race gas would move nicely.
It looks like a pretty quality kit. If someone didn't know much about cars they might think it's just another factory accessory.
Dayum, only 4 1/2 psi huh I guess that's what you get for buying a high compression engine. :o
A nice 9:1 compression ratio and about 10 psi with race gas would move nicely.
It looks like a pretty quality kit. If someone didn't know much about cars they might think it's just another factory accessory.
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Originally posted by ModAddict
I believe it's an Eaton P-62, twin screw blower. No boost gauge yet, maybe 4 1/2 psi.
I believe it's an Eaton P-62, twin screw blower. No boost gauge yet, maybe 4 1/2 psi.
BTW, it is the Eaton/Magnuson MP62 Gen IV blower to be exact. I'm curious as to the boost levels seen by the automatics. In the manual, I now see about 4 - 4.5 max in fourth gear. First gear only generates about 2.5 and second gear about 3.5 PSI. I know the loading is different with the automatic so the amount would be interesting to learn.
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Originally posted by scalbert
Congrats and nice to see the completion.
BTW, it is the Eaton/Magnuson MP62 Gen IV blower to be exact. I'm curious as to the boost levels seen by the automatics. In the manual, I now see about 4 - 4.5 max in fourth gear. First gear only generates about 2.5 and second gear about 3.5 PSI. I know the loading is different with the automatic so the amount would be interesting to learn.
Congrats and nice to see the completion.
BTW, it is the Eaton/Magnuson MP62 Gen IV blower to be exact. I'm curious as to the boost levels seen by the automatics. In the manual, I now see about 4 - 4.5 max in fourth gear. First gear only generates about 2.5 and second gear about 3.5 PSI. I know the loading is different with the automatic so the amount would be interesting to learn.
My lamda meter has tha ability to send a narrow band signal to the ecu with an adjustable stoic value. Do you think I could tune by adjusting the stoic value sent to the ecu? I can also tap into other ecu inputs to log data along with the a/f. I'm thinking throttle position and rpm. Do we have a knock sensor, and what else do you watch? Fuel trim, long and short term,....ect.....?
Did you ever do anything with the intake manifold actuator?
Do you know the size of your pullies? I assume they are the same. I have a 4" on the blower and 3 1/4" on the stepper, overall dia. I assume the crank pullies are the same. How big is the boost pulley?
I know that's alot of questions. Here's another one. Can you help?
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Originally posted by ModAddict
Where did you end up with it? I'll let you know where the boost numbers end up.
Where did you end up with it? I'll let you know where the boost numbers end up.
Do you think I could tune by adjusting the stoic value sent to the ecu? I can also tap into other ecu inputs to log data along with the a/f. I'm thinking throttle position and rpm. Do we have a knock sensor, and what else do you watch?
We do have a knock sensor but IMO, it is deaf. The only reading you will really want to watch for is A/F ratio with your lambda meter, very nice to have!!! Unless you have a scan tool that can show KR or knock counts your lambda meter is the shiat.
Did you ever do anything with the intake manifold actuator?
Do you know the size of your pullies? I assume they are the same. I have a 4" on the blower and 3 1/4" on the stepper, overall dia.
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Originally posted by scalbert
Just don't go too far as the HO2S2 will catch it if they are too far out of sync.
Just don't go too far as the HO2S2 will catch it if they are too far out of sync.
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Re: types1967 aka eric
Originally posted by types1967
good luck and welcome to the supercharged club now we have a few cls and tl blown.i love mine and use it everday for those ricers
good luck and welcome to the supercharged club now we have a few cls and tl blown.i love mine and use it everday for those ricers
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Originally posted by ModAddict
Is the HO2S2 the second O2 sensor after the cat? If so, couldn"t I get an O2 simm for that one if need be?
Is the HO2S2 the second O2 sensor after the cat? If so, couldn"t I get an O2 simm for that one if need be?
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Damn... I got the cash that I was going to get the used S2K with... but now.. I'm reconsidering...
Damn... I got the cash that I was going to get the used S2K with... but now.. I'm reconsidering...
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Originally posted by scalbert
Congrats and nice to see the completion.
BTW, it is the Eaton/Magnuson MP62 Gen IV blower to be exact. I'm curious as to the boost levels seen by the automatics. In the manual, I now see about 4 - 4.5 max in fourth gear. First gear only generates about 2.5 and second gear about 3.5 PSI. I know the loading is different with the automatic so the amount would be interesting to learn.
Congrats and nice to see the completion.
BTW, it is the Eaton/Magnuson MP62 Gen IV blower to be exact. I'm curious as to the boost levels seen by the automatics. In the manual, I now see about 4 - 4.5 max in fourth gear. First gear only generates about 2.5 and second gear about 3.5 PSI. I know the loading is different with the automatic so the amount would be interesting to learn.
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I got the boost gauge installed today. It self calibrates each time it powers up. It's a full sweep electronic Autometer and only goes up to 15 psi. I knew I'd be running lower boost, so a larger scale from 0-10 psi makes it easier to read. Anyway, it runs right up to 5 psi at ALL the shift points, well I didn't have enough road for the 4-5 shift. I tried gate shifting and it will hit 5 1/2 at the rev limiter, (oops).
I got the boost gauge installed today. It self calibrates each time it powers up. It's a full sweep electronic Autometer and only goes up to 15 psi. I knew I'd be running lower boost, so a larger scale from 0-10 psi makes it easier to read. Anyway, it runs right up to 5 psi at ALL the shift points, well I didn't have enough road for the 4-5 shift. I tried gate shifting and it will hit 5 1/2 at the rev limiter, (oops).
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Originally posted by ModAddict
Anyway, it runs right up to 5 psi at ALL the shift points,
Anyway, it runs right up to 5 psi at ALL the shift points,
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Originally posted by MtBikR
Modaddict, can you tell me what type of autometer model you used and where I can pick on up? Thanks!
Modaddict, can you tell me what type of autometer model you used and where I can pick on up? Thanks!
Memory and Warning, Includes sender and T-fitting.
I picked it up at http://www.laneautomotive.com/ . Their showroom is an hour away from me. It's attached to a huge wharehouse for their wholsale buisiness. I swear they have anything, and everything, in stock.
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Originally posted by scalbert
Cool, that is good to hear. 5 PSI, more than I see, where are you sourcing the pressure signal??
Cool, that is good to hear. 5 PSI, more than I see, where are you sourcing the pressure signal??
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Originally posted by JRock
Video?
Video?
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Originally posted by Red Rider
How about some pics of the gauge.
How about some pics of the gauge.
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Originally posted by ModAddict
There is a small vacuum line comming out of the back of the intake manifold,..." the line feed the EVAP purge solenoid".
Remember I have stock exhaust manifolds, so there's probably more back pressure, so more boost pressure. I bet after headers, I will loose boost preasure.
The thing that I was wondering with your boost numbers, is that you see less boost in 1st gear, then higher in 2nd, and higher in 3rd.
There is a small vacuum line comming out of the back of the intake manifold,..." the line feed the EVAP purge solenoid".
Remember I have stock exhaust manifolds, so there's probably more back pressure, so more boost pressure. I bet after headers, I will loose boost preasure.
The thing that I was wondering with your boost numbers, is that you see less boost in 1st gear, then higher in 2nd, and higher in 3rd.
Ah, yes, you are waiting on headers and I agree; that will make a difference in the amount of boost realized. It may drop on the order of 0.5 PSI or more which puts it in line with the manual. But this will be a very interesting thing to see the results. It should be a good indicator of the header's ability to scavenge. Have fun monkeying with those Allen head bolts again; I don't envy that chore.
I wonder it is a simple fact of the torque converter allowing the engine speed to be higher the output speed when compared to the manual. This is more than likely the case and would explain why in 1st you see max boost right away as this would have the higher stall ratio invoked.
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Originally posted by scalbert
Have fun monkeying with those Allen head bolts again; I don't envy that chore.
Have fun monkeying with those Allen head bolts again; I don't envy that chore.
This is more than likely the case and would explain why in 1st you see max boost right away as this would have the higher stall ratio invoked.
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You want in car, or fly-by? Let me guess, both? Dyno too maybe? I'll need some time,...a week or two,....allright I know it's allready been a week.
You want in car, or fly-by? Let me guess, both? Dyno too maybe? I'll need some time,...a week or two,....allright I know it's allready been a week.
Maybe set him up a couple hundred feet down from you, launch and go flying by and catch you spinning 2nd and hear you catch third a little ways past him.
And yeah in-car is good too.
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Originally posted by JRock
any from this weekend?
any from this weekend?
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