Hi Everyone,

I'm looking for advice on if it's advisable to put a 6 speed manual transmission in the regular CL (not S-type). My trans started slipping at 99K and I really don't want to put a remanufactured one that will fail again.

Did anyone actually do this? If so, other than the actual transmission and the dash, what else needs to be replaced?

Thanks for any advice.

 

You are probably better off just finding an MT CL.

I would consider a tranny swap if a car didn't come with MT, like the 2nd gen TL Type S. Otherwise the expense just doesn't make it worth it.

 

I'm pretty sure that's not what I asked for. I'm looking for someone who can shed light on the process if they know about it or have done it. Please, if we can stay on topic, that would be great. Not looking for alternatives or whether or not it's worth, that part I'll figure out on my own.

 

Ok, maybe I wasn't clear enough, but the response form wackjum just made no sense to me. I have a regular 2003 CL (none type S). I know that only the type S had the 6 speed manual transmission in 2003 from the factory. The CL is 225hp while the type S is 260hp. I'd like to swap my auto trans for a manual from an S-type. Is that possible and what would that entail? Thanks again for any help on the subject.

 

I'm pretty sure your original post asked "I'm looking for advice on if it's advisable to put a 6 speed manual transmission in the regular CL (not S-type)."

So I'm telling you it is not advisable.

I'm sorry I went off whatever topic you had set up for yourself in your mind. I'm just a person who reads what's posted on forums; not a mind reader.

And that's the end of my participation in your thread.

 

Didn't mean to hurt your feelings, but it appears you're the kind of person that only reads the part of a post that they want, not the entire thing. The advice I'm looking for should be derived from knowledge/know-how, not merely opinion. If you were to support your response, that would have been advice. And thanks for not participating any further, much appreciated.

 

Lol 5 posts in and arguing like an idiot. You'll fit in fine here.

 

Fixed.

 

redhawk... you really should chill out. No one meant anything by their posts, you jumped on him because you didn't like the answer....

Now on to your question...
It costs a lot of $ to swap. Unless you can find a donor 6MT CLS that has everything in it. There are several people that have swapped them in TL's & accords. May want to search on that side or Google the swap. There are numerous posts that come up.

 

So much cheaper and less hassle to buy a MT. The conversion isn't worth the money, time, and effort along with all the problems you can face along the way or even in the future when doing a swap.

 

I don't know why everyone is so sensitive here, I don't think I jumped on anyone, he just didn't give me any helpful info, just his opinion, which I didn't seek. Even the comments that followed merely added to getting off topic, seems everyone so far feels that to be beneficial, can't quite figure how, but really can't put too much thought into something so (plug in whatever word makes you feel good here).

I did search the site, but did not come up with any info, so started a new thread asking for help. But, I'll try harder, it's obvious no one knows how to find them either.

What if I'm not looking for cheaper or less hassle? What if I simply want to work on a car that I really love and a challenge is what I'm looking for? Doesn't matter, as all I'll get here are how it's not worth it or that it doesn't make sense or whatever. Thanks for nothing, really.

I'll keep searching, and hopefully will find the answers I'm seeking, will simply take more time. No one said this will be easy. Lets move on. If you're a nay sayer, I've heard it before and even though I didn't ask for it, thanks for giving me your opinion. If you can give advice as to tackle this, much appreciated. Let's what what the next posts will look like, I wonder.

 

With time and money any thing is possible. There is actually a lot of info on this, I have been looking at it my self. The most strait forward approach is as stated in one of the earlier posts find a cls 6 and pull all the stuff you need (Trany, clutch, fly wheel, peddles, mounts center console, shifter linkage, cables, ecu and not sure if its mandatory but gauge cluster). But if you find a CLS6 why not just use it! or at least swap the engine as well if you find one wrecked. There are other ways to piece one together several other trannys will work same as peddles and shifter components. The biggest herbal is the ECU, I found at one time in some really old posts where some people built a small circuit and wired it in to the AT ECU and where able to use it.


My advice search it out then start asking specific questions. You will get better answers.

If your going to hang out around here you probably want to lighten up a bit, everyone has opinions even you, so take them for what they are wroth.

 

its common to run into what i refer to as typical responses. ive seen em all back when i brought up a sawp to the 1st gen side about 10yrs back.

should be easy considering everything will fit, just a matter of obtaining parts.

im on my xbox so bare with me as i wont be spot on.

trans can be found from 3 different but specific year cars. for instance you can use the 03 cls tranny which comes with lsd. the 3rd gen tl i believe from04 to 06 also with lsd. the accord tranny that will fit does not come with lsd and i believe it was the 05ish model, i have to confirm the years for the tl and accord when i get on a computer.

now the fun part.. if im not mistaken you will need the cls6 ecu to make this swap work. i would then double check the crank positioning sensors to ensure you use the right one with the new ecu. if i recall correctlyp, the cam positioing sensors are different from the clp and the cls. so since we would be using the cls6 ecu, i would double check to make sure you run the corrected sensor for said ecu.

after that it should be basic and straight forward. brake pedal, clutch pedal assembly, clutch master cylinder, lines, shifter, etc. hope this helps.

 

Well I did say I wasn't going to participate anymore, but your continued haughty attitude is just begging for further responses.

Since you only want "advice derived from knowledge/know-how, not merely opinion", here are two pics of me hauling a donor CL-S 6MT back home for a swap. I drive a white 6MT, and then on this very forum I was introduced to a wrecked red one. My plan was to swap it into a 2nd gen TL Type S.





I am probably one of the few people left on the CL forums who has any direct know-how and experience with the tranny swap. Others have moved on. The car came out over 10 years ago after all. But I am not inclined to share any of this advice derived from knowledge/know-how with you since you have done nothing to curry my favor.

I was not "naysaying" you in my original post. The problem is you lack command of the English language and an ability to communicate effectively. If you had started a thread that said, "I want to swap a 6MT into a CL-P, please tell me what I need to do" then I think I would have immediately knew what you wanted.

Instead, you posted this thread asking for "advice on if its advisable" and "thank you for any advice."

Then you went back and said later that I am the type of person who only reads part of the post I want. Well your post is written like this:

So I answered the first question posed. There was no indication anywhere in your post that this was a fake throwaway question and that I was supposed to disregard this first question and only answer the 2nd.

Anyway, a couple of things to keep in mind moving into the future:

1. You should lose the attitude. In this situation, your haughty attitude pissed off one person who had direct knowledge you're looking for.

2. People are here to help you because of their good nature and own free will, not because we're paid. We don't get anything by helping you. You should be appreciative of any advice you get, especially if you say "thanks for any advice."

3. You should learn proper communication skills and use of the English language. You should look at what you have written and understand how a person would comprehend your statements based solely on the words written, and not any latent or implied meaning.

4. If a lot of people are saying the same thing (that you need to chill out), it's probably not us; it is probably you.

 

Ok enough......
OP here....
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...light=6MT+swap
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/5at-6mt-parts-list-845709/
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-tl-1999-2003-98/6-speed-conversion-591872/
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...light=6MT+swap
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...light=6MT+swap
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...light=6MT+swap
I could go on, you get the point.