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Old 09-07-2007, 01:40 PM
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ok, does anyone have a link or something on how to install the fuel pressure gauge. it is mechanical
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Originally Posted by New Image
i unplugged the imrc and it put down 216whp

i have stock headers, greddy mx exhaust

WTF i want to shoot myself
I think can help i got 357 .
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i think as said above posting a video of it running will help you.
so that other can see.
belt tension, FPR
hell maybe the SC was bad to begin with
how much boost are u seeing ??
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im recording a few clips right now. ill have them up in about 15 minutes

5psi boost
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WctNnZZIBA
Old 09-07-2007, 02:32 PM
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another one for shits and giggles

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itOQTF7DXUU
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notice how it idles?
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yea I'd get a second dyno somewhere else...from the look of your second video...I think your pulling down more than 216 whp.
Of course if you drive it like you did in the 2nd video all the time I wouldn't be surprised something might be broken...ha.
Kinda does sound funny when it idles. Might just need a good tune.
Old 09-07-2007, 03:36 PM
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your shit sounds loud bro... waht kind of exhaust?
Old 09-07-2007, 03:41 PM
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So which one are you, Starsky or Hutch?
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Originally Posted by New Image
notice how it idles?
I'd hope that you own all 3 of the vehicles that you did the brake slide towards?
Old 09-07-2007, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperTrooper169
So which one are you, Starsky or Hutch?
Dont think i could do that to my CL..
Old 09-07-2007, 04:02 PM
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my advice: sell your parts and sell your cl.
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my advice: sell your parts and sell your cl.
he just bought it!?
Old 09-07-2007, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kyle77777
he just bought it!?
so...
Old 09-07-2007, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Paclark01
If you are running the standard pulley the IMRC does not need to be disconnected. Make sure you are running premium fuel (91 octane or higher). If you are putting down numbers like that you need to check to make sure the IMRC is opening at above 3800 rpm. The easiest way to check is by opening the hood, reving the engine and looking at the back of motor to make sure the butterfly opens.

Did you install colder plugs as well?

I forgot to add... Get a set of used Comptech Headers... The stock headers are not going to give you the gains you are looking for.

.I have an extra set i will sell you for $250. they are the DC sports headers
Two 3-1 Ceramic Headers, One Piece HHC5528 Regular price $446.99
Just bought them this year

Let me know!! You can have them put on by saturday night for the cruise!!

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Old 09-07-2007, 06:18 PM
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i have comptech headers, theyre just not installed yet.

err, the car is loud and it idles wierd. sounds like a supra.

greddy mx exhaust
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ESM voltage?
Slipping belt?
plugged cat?
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Check to see if any of your intake pieces especially the rubber bellows are disconnected and collapsing within themselves restricting air flow, (seen it happen before).

Also check what kind of ignition timing you are running and what the voltage is coming from the MAP sensor.
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have you checked out the video on page two?
Old 09-08-2007, 10:33 AM
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I just got an AEM EUGO a/f meter with wideband. ill be installing it and checking my a/f ratio.

so i hear it should be in the low 12s?
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Originally Posted by New Image
I just got an AEM EUGO a/f meter with wideband. ill be installing it and checking my a/f ratio.

so i hear it should be in the low 12s?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air-fuel_ratio
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Originally Posted by CleanCL
my advice: sell your parts and sell your cl.
Probably not bad advice... He totaled out his accord, then his 1st CL 6spd was totaled in a "hit and run", and judging by the video, it won't be long till this one is gone...
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Originally Posted by New Image
have you checked out the video on page two?
Yeah I have its hard to see if anything is occuring with the intake system.

Usually the loss of power in mid band happens when the Emanage or any other tuning hardware, no longer is clamping the MAP voltage properly and is puling timing like crazy. There more reasons obviously why your ECU could be pulling timing but thats one to look at for sure, especially if you have a surge at 5000 which usually indicates that VTEC is correcting the problem as in Siggys case when VTEC adjusted the timing on his car back to where it should be.
Old 09-08-2007, 11:26 PM
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are you running UR crank pulley?
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Why would you purchase a mechanical fuel pressure gauge? Are you planning on mounting it on the hood outside the car like an old-school Dodge? You need a electrical fuel pressure gauge.

Although fuel pressure is not the issue here because you are not running lean. What is the voltage clamp (ESM) set to? Is the bypass valve operating normally? Where are you measuring boost from?

221whp is about what a stock 6-speed will put down. Also, the curve on your dyno is showing something is not kosher. It should be very smooth not all over the place. Did you test with a scan tool to check IAT and timing?
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I couldn't tell much from the idle because you are reving the engine constantly but it appears to sound normal.
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Sounds like you need to do a little tweaking on the mother fucker!!
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hummm.. I think you should just give it to me. The supercharger is known to work better on Silver CL-S

Good luck. I would get it dyno'd somewhere else. a second opinion would never hurt.
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Originally Posted by CL FWD SPEED
are you running UR crank pulley?

No, reason being I plan to upgrade to a light weight fly wheel.
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Yeah I have its hard to see if anything is occuring with the intake system.

Usually the loss of power in mid band happens when the Emanage or any other tuning hardware, no longer is clamping the MAP voltage properly and is puling timing like crazy. There more reasons obviously why your ECU could be pulling timing but thats one to look at for sure, especially if you have a surge at 5000 which usually indicates that VTEC is correcting the problem as in Siggys case when VTEC adjusted the timing on his car back to where it should be.
I havent installed my emanage yet. Should I try a different ecu tuning setup?

I checked my intake plumbing and all is fine.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Why would you purchase a mechanical fuel pressure gauge? Are you planning on mounting it on the hood outside the car like an old-school Dodge? You need a electrical fuel pressure gauge.

Although fuel pressure is not the issue here because you are not running lean. What is the voltage clamp (ESM) set to? Is the bypass valve operating normally? Where are you measuring boost from?

221whp is about what a stock 6-speed will put down. Also, the curve on your dyno is showing something is not kosher. It should be very smooth not all over the place. Did you test with a scan tool to check IAT and timing?
Well I wanted it under the hood to check what my idle fuel pressure was. I am trying to narrow it down.

Tonite I will be removing the valve covers and adjusting my valve gap clearance. If anyone knows what the gapping is for intake and exhaust valves please let me know. If the gapping is the same across the j30 and j32 motor, then I have the numbers. I would just like to double check b4 starting tonite.
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Why would you purchase a mechanical fuel pressure gauge? Are you planning on mounting it on the hood outside the car like an old-school Dodge? You need a electrical fuel pressure gauge.

Although fuel pressure is not the issue here because you are not running lean. What is the voltage clamp (ESM) set to? Is the bypass valve operating normally? Where are you measuring boost from?

221whp is about what a stock 6-speed will put down. Also, the curve on your dyno is showing something is not kosher. It should be very smooth not all over the place. Did you test with a scan tool to check IAT and timing?

I have no idea what the voltage clamp is set to. I didnt check it, and figured it was pre-set. Bypass is functional and I am measuring boost from the vacuum line coming from the blower to the IM
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Originally Posted by NightRider
I understand what a/f is. I was wondering what an ideal a/f on this motor is with the s/c
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
Check to see if any of your intake pieces especially the rubber bellows are disconnected and collapsing within themselves restricting air flow, (seen it happen before).

Also check what kind of ignition timing you are running and what the voltage is coming from the MAP sensor.
I have not adjusted my timing, and how would I check the voltage coming from the ESM?
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Originally Posted by New Image
I understand what a/f is. I was wondering what an ideal a/f on this motor is with the s/c

I always thought that around 11.5 was idel.
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Originally Posted by SPoolinspOON
I always thought that around 11.5 was idel.

If you were at 11.5 at idle your car would be throwing codes and stalling like crazy.

In closed loop you will be at/around 14.7 (stoichiometric).



EDIT: Just realized you meant to say "ideal" and not "idle."


An ideal AFR would be 11.5-12.2
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Originally Posted by New Image
I have no idea what the voltage clamp is set to. I didnt check it, and figured it was pre-set. Bypass is functional and I am measuring boost from the vacuum line coming from the blower to the IM

Probably a good idea for you to check the voltage clamp.

Doing a run with a scan tool connected to the OBD-2.


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