Nashua_Night_Hawk

I was I said to myself the CT SC is nice and cool... However, is it worth it? cost starts at $4000 you have to add a new battery and labor or do it yourself if you are a Scalbert mini-me

Now let us see, any SC from Jackson racing would add 40-50% gains and they cost less than the CT...

For ~4k, I bet that if I ask a local custom tuner (a friend of that Wang tuner) he can fab a custom-turbo with Turbo-electronics Intercooler, and Gauges pod on the A-pilar, the whole works.. And the installation would be showroom quality too..

The down side, is that I have an Auto ( if it was a 6-speed) and the CLS has high compression pistons... for like $1K extra... new swain-coated low-compression pistons can be installed and here you go a 350 FWHP CLS...

AcurajL

and.....

I see your point. Why bother spending 4K on a supercharger if you can get a custom turbo for near or around 4-5K? Same horsepower right?
Custom jobs take a week or so...and there is no "warranty". I have consider the option myself for later down the road, but if I have 5K saved I think I would just turn in my car for the new faster cars that come 350 HP stock??? Or take and old prelude and start hooking it up.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

Same power from Turbo.... no... You would get a 75-100 WHP gain instead of 45-55 from CT. Intercooler Turbo setup has 2X gains of the CT SC at the same price.

But one sec...

I have to replace the front windshield... here you go another $500 are lost on my CLS...

no money to mod a thing now...

typeR

the super chrager is not the reason for the gains...it's the pulley...it could be made to put out 250 hp ill bet...

JRock

With our high-compression VTEC engine you'd be hard-pressed to put more than 45% power gain on it without serious fuel and cooling devices.

Nashua_Night_Hawk

Yep.. Unorthodox Racing can make you a smaller pulley on short order! I heard that CT may use their services...

AK_MOBBER

comptech used a pretty small blower for their supercharger so you have to consider that your horsepower will not go any higher once the blower is maxed out.
Whats the maximum cfm/boost the supercharger can produce?? Someone get comptech on the line

sidemarker

i love the way the comptech s/c look! the price is pretty high, though. i would consider getting it for my auto if the price came down considerably...

sidemarker

scalbert

Eaton/Magnuson MP62

scalbert

One problem with a custom kit is that it is just that, custom. If something breaks you have to rely on the fabricator to make a replacement part as there is normally no warranty. You also have to tune it your self and rely on it being correct and repeatable.

Don't get me wrong, I love fabrication and considered doing something myself. But for the vast majority they want something you install and forget about it.

Additionally, Comptech did not go for all out power; they went for decent gains while maintaining reliability and drivability. It is up to us to get more out of the blower and there is more to be had. IMO, they hit it dead on.

AK_MOBBER

It looks like the comptech supercharger will supply a maximum of 400 horsepower turning at max speed.

600 CFM / 1.5 = 400 HP

I'm sure this is enough for any of us...
I cant wait to see the dyno on monday!

ModAddict

The way the Comptech is setup on our cars, an aftercooler could be piped in, between the blower outlet, and the engine intake. Run the blower rpm's to the edge with the pulley, adjust fuel and timing,.....10psi, safe and cool,....that should get your 100hp don't you think?

allmotor_2000

You'd get a 100whp gain on a custom-turbo setup at 5'ish psi... and that's been proven. The Comptech unit, as Steve mentioned, is designed for reliability AND power... so there is a margin that they leave as a manufacturer. I don't think the engine will have any issues upto 8-9psi on stock internals... although there are several things such as ignition and fuel which need to be upgraded. I think the S/C is putting the claimed 40-50whp... no doubt - Steve's video confirms that. It isn't putting 100whp, as that feels and looks quite a bit different It will probably be a little tough having a custom turbo system fabricated for $4K unless you are doing a good portion of the work. Any fabricator will charge you at least $2K for a manifold... period! If you want stainless-steel etc., it just starts adding up. They just won't make enough money to justify the work. It's at least 8 hours labor to fabricate the manifold, plus 8 hours for the other piping plus another 8 hours for general install. That's 24 hours @ $65/hr = $1560. Materials is another $400. Now, add all the components. Turbo = $700, Wastegate = $250, Intercooler = $650, FPR = $275, Blowoff = $225, Pump = $100, Oil hoses/fittings = $100, Guages = $100, Misc hoses/clamps/wires/etc. = $100. Now you are at $1560 + $400 + $2500. That's nearly $4500 already. I am sure I have forgotten stuff... so add that and some profit... and boom $5K!!

allmotor_2000

I am putting together a worksheet to outline the requirements for a 600-700whp system for the CL-S. Obviously this will require a complete engine-build, but the numbers might be interesting considering the performance - albeit it would be useless on street tires!!

ModAddict

Actually, just keep the blower set up stock and throw a 50 shot on top of that! That should get you close to your 100 hp.

AK_MOBBER

nah your bottle of nitrous will run out and then your also out of fun!

ModAddict

Ultimac

if your going for that much power, you might as well go to the junk yard and see if you can't rip a awd system and a 6spd out of an A4 or A6, have the motor spun around, lowered and set back into the car a few inches. But then wait-- you would have a $65,000 one of a kind sports luxury car. Or you could just save yor money and buy a S4 or RS6.

Red Rider

Well said as always Scalbert ! Reliability and driveability are the key words there.

CL SLeePeR

Please keep us updated on the outline requirements for a 600-700 hp system for the CL-S.