CT Headers
11-29-2011, 09:41 PM
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CT Headers
I was talking with a guy at work today about the Comptech Headers and he said that they weren't really worth adding to my car (CL6) because it was only going to create power on the top end. He said the axle-back mufflers were the only part of the exhaust he would really do.
He also went on to tell me how one of his friends put the full Comptech setup on his CL-S6 and a stock base CL was just blowing him away.
Any input from you guys about adding the headers?
He also went on to tell me how one of his friends put the full Comptech setup on his CL-S6 and a stock base CL was just blowing him away.
Any input from you guys about adding the headers?
11-30-2011, 03:16 AM
#2
I was talking with a guy at work today about the Comptech Headers and he said that they weren't really worth adding to my car (CL6) because it was only going to create power on the top end. He said the axle-back mufflers were the only part of the exhaust he would really do.
He also went on to tell me how one of his friends put the full Comptech setup on his CL-S6 and a stock base CL was just blowing him away.
Any input from you guys about adding the headers?
He also went on to tell me how one of his friends put the full Comptech setup on his CL-S6 and a stock base CL was just blowing him away.
Any input from you guys about adding the headers?
When I had my CL, I was neck and neck with 350z's and G35's while it was stock. After I added headers I would pull on them by more than 3 car lengths. When I added those headers the car felt like I had added a mini supercharger. Definitely one of the most important mods to have on this car.
Last edited by Jacobpockros; 11-30-2011 at 03:18 AM.
11-30-2011, 09:13 AM
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I was talking with a guy at work today about the Comptech Headers and he said that they weren't really worth adding to my car (CL6) because it was only going to create power on the top end. He said the axle-back mufflers were the only part of the exhaust he would really do.
He also went on to tell me how one of his friends put the full Comptech setup on his CL-S6 and a stock base CL was just blowing him away.
Any input from you guys about adding the headers?
He also went on to tell me how one of his friends put the full Comptech setup on his CL-S6 and a stock base CL was just blowing him away.
Any input from you guys about adding the headers?
We have them on sale too if you need a set:
http://store.excelerateperformance.c.../i-220427.aspx
11-30-2011, 10:40 AM
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The thing is though I really want to believe him and not at the same time...
He's been racing and building NSX's since the came out but at the same time how do you know that the guy driving the car wasnt just a schmuck.
He said the big concern with loss on the low end is that the headers opened up the exhaust too much.
He's been racing and building NSX's since the came out but at the same time how do you know that the guy driving the car wasnt just a schmuck.
He said the big concern with loss on the low end is that the headers opened up the exhaust too much.
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11-30-2011, 10:48 AM
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That's a decent price on XLR8s website.
I paid that back in the summer of 2004 for mine shipped.
I paid that back in the summer of 2004 for mine shipped.
11-30-2011, 11:52 AM
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The thing is though I really want to believe him and not at the same time...
He's been racing and building NSX's since the came out but at the same time how do you know that the guy driving the car wasnt just a schmuck.
He said the big concern with loss on the low end is that the headers opened up the exhaust too much.
He's been racing and building NSX's since the came out but at the same time how do you know that the guy driving the car wasnt just a schmuck.
He said the big concern with loss on the low end is that the headers opened up the exhaust too much.
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11-30-2011, 12:52 PM
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Yeah I don't know if he misunderstood me but I'm 100% positive I asked him if he still had a hookup with the guys at CT and said I wanted headers and exhaust. (He's the service director at the dealer). Then he went on tell me all that stuff..
Maybe he thought I was talking about a highflow cat, he's been there for 20 years... maybe he's getting old and senile lol
Maybe he thought I was talking about a highflow cat, he's been there for 20 years... maybe he's getting old and senile lol
11-30-2011, 03:20 PM
#11
Maybe he is just taking knowledge from another car and making same assumptions about this car. Headers are definately worth it, the only question is if you want to spend the amount of money ct engineering wants for them.
The axlebacks won't really add performance. They are basically just for sound and looks. You would need a full cat-back to show gains. There is a tanabe cat-back(most will complain piping is too small) or you can go custom.
If you are opening up the exhaust you also want to open up the intake also.
The axlebacks won't really add performance. They are basically just for sound and looks. You would need a full cat-back to show gains. There is a tanabe cat-back(most will complain piping is too small) or you can go custom.
If you are opening up the exhaust you also want to open up the intake also.
11-30-2011, 03:28 PM
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well in actuality he is right about the headers, they start adding power at about 3000rpm. under that, because of reduced backpressure, torque is lost (and i have a comptech graph that shows at 2800rpm there is a loss of power from the headers). this graph doesn't show anything lower than 2800 because, i'm assuming, the loss is even greater (and that's not good for marketing).
with that said, there is no way i wouldn't buy them. day to day, from when i first bought the car, i shift slightly higher because of the loss of torque, but who cares? it's the highest whp/$ bolt-on for this car.
the pdf is no longer hosted on ct but you can look at a google cache of it here: http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...4DBhzQ&cad=rja
with that said, there is no way i wouldn't buy them. day to day, from when i first bought the car, i shift slightly higher because of the loss of torque, but who cares? it's the highest whp/$ bolt-on for this car.
the pdf is no longer hosted on ct but you can look at a google cache of it here: http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...4DBhzQ&cad=rja
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11-30-2011, 03:29 PM
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Dyno before and after.
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-dynograph-gallery-51/cl-s6-ct-headers-823346/
https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-dynograph-gallery-51/cl-s6-ct-headers-823346/
11-30-2011, 04:11 PM
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when i added my ct headers i have no idea i could notice a bolt on. it was insane.. like the car is competely 100% better all around. low end high end and sound is way better.
i wouldn't own a cl w/o headers. so buddy doesn't know our cars
i wouldn't own a cl w/o headers. so buddy doesn't know our cars
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11-30-2011, 04:38 PM
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well in actuality he is right about the headers, they start adding power at about 3000rpm. under that, because of reduced backpressure, torque is lost (and i have a comptech graph that shows at 2800rpm there is a loss of power from the headers). this graph doesn't show anything lower than 2800 because, i'm assuming, the loss is even greater (and that's not good for marketing).
with that said, there is no way i wouldn't buy them. day to day, from when i first bought the car, i shift slightly higher because of the loss of torque, but who cares? it's the highest whp/$ bolt-on for this car.
the pdf is no longer hosted on ct but you can look at a google cache of it here: http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...4DBhzQ&cad=rja
with that said, there is no way i wouldn't buy them. day to day, from when i first bought the car, i shift slightly higher because of the loss of torque, but who cares? it's the highest whp/$ bolt-on for this car.
the pdf is no longer hosted on ct but you can look at a google cache of it here: http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&...4DBhzQ&cad=rja
11-30-2011, 05:52 PM
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I don't see how below 2500 rpm matters with my 6 speed. If you are trying to drive fast you would launch at atleast 2500 rpm and always keep car above 2500 rpm. The only time I see where it would matter is if you try and gun it from 2000 rpm on the highway. In that situation I would just downshift tho.
are you disagreeing with me? because i never said anything about driving fast. do you always launch at 2500? because i don't. not everyone drives their car racing light to light. idle - 2500 rpm is pretty important in day to day driving.
i shortshift as much as i can to conserve gas. so this means that instead of shifting at 1900 before the headers, i had to shift at 2200.. and then when i put my exhaust on, 2300-2400.
11-30-2011, 06:04 PM
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He was saying there was no low end gains, if anything there would be a loss in the low end from the header and the high end gains you would see you wouldn't be able to access unless you had enough stretch of road....
Which would be a huge problem if you were racing from a dead stop and not a roll.
Which would be a huge problem if you were racing from a dead stop and not a roll.
11-30-2011, 08:17 PM
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1) Get headers.
2) Laugh at the service director.
3) ??????????
4) Profit
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2) Laugh at the service director.
3) ??????????
4) Profit
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11-30-2011, 09:50 PM
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11-30-2011, 10:09 PM
#22
i don't think you will have this issue at all. as noted above this is the best bolt on, besides boost.
selling mine in the BM.... and not because they suck and didn't add power.
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/volk-gt-v-wheels-19-x8-%2A%2Amint%2A%2A-amr-coilovers-comptech-6-speed-headers-838643/
selling mine in the BM.... and not because they suck and didn't add power.
https://acurazine.com/forums/car-parts-sale-361/volk-gt-v-wheels-19-x8-%2A%2Amint%2A%2A-amr-coilovers-comptech-6-speed-headers-838643/
12-01-2011, 09:27 AM
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are you disagreeing with me? because i never said anything about driving fast. do you always launch at 2500? because i don't. not everyone drives their car racing light to light. idle - 2500 rpm is pretty important in day to day driving.
i shortshift as much as i can to conserve gas. so this means that instead of shifting at 1900 before the headers, i had to shift at 2200.. and then when i put my exhaust on, 2300-2400.
i shortshift as much as i can to conserve gas. so this means that instead of shifting at 1900 before the headers, i had to shift at 2200.. and then when i put my exhaust on, 2300-2400.
12-02-2011, 03:43 PM
#26
op i hope u put the headers on the car and then ur gonna be like... wow i'm such a goof i didn't have faith in the bad boys.
theoretically u should increase ur mileage too since the car is more feed up. (presuming ur driving it the same) which u won't for the first month.
theoretically u should increase ur mileage too since the car is more feed up. (presuming ur driving it the same) which u won't for the first month.
12-08-2011, 07:00 PM
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op i hope u put the headers on the car and then ur gonna be like... wow i'm such a goof i didn't have faith in the bad boys.
theoretically u should increase ur mileage too since the car is more feed up. (presuming ur driving it the same) which u won't for the first month.
theoretically u should increase ur mileage too since the car is more feed up. (presuming ur driving it the same) which u won't for the first month.
12-10-2011, 03:50 PM
#28
The poor idiot doesn't know anything about this engine or the CT parts. Best mod is headers followed by CAI and followed by the beast of all the CT supercharger. Headers will transform your car performs immediately. There are not too many headers out there that generate 15 to 25 HP like CT. Go for it you will not regret the mod.
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