Comptech Ice-Box debute Feb 14 ???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 11:15 PM
  #1  
lou_RENAMED's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,335
Likes: 0
From: NYC
Comptech Ice-Box debute Feb 14 ???

I don't know whether to believe it or not. I hope it comes out but after such a long time even if it performs well I will probably be dissappointed. What do you guys think better than Aem or not.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 11:30 PM
  #2  
nate'sCLS's Avatar
Safety Car
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,135
Likes: 0
From: SAC, CA
I think better than AEM Lou, but it was a long ass wait for it and it will cost us more $$ to boot
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:04 AM
  #3  
mr. big's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,067
Likes: 0
From: L.A.
i checked the site, and it said not for CLS...whats up with that?
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 02:03 AM
  #4  
AcuraTLSFan's Avatar
Registered Member
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 417
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere
In performance i don't think the CT icebox will out perform AEM.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:26 AM
  #5  
fuzzy02CLS's Avatar
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 16,847
Likes: 223
From: South FL
I emailed them & was told yesterday it will be released next month sometime.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:35 AM
  #6  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
Originally posted by mr. big
i checked the site, and it said not for CLS...whats up with that?

There are two different versions of the IceBox intake for the CL,
one for Type-S and one for the base model CL.

And preliminary results show it DOES out perform the AEM intake.

BUT until we get our hands on one,install it, and do a dyno run we can't say.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 10:53 AM
  #7  
cbs_RENAMED's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Re: Comptech Ice-Box debute Feb 14 ???

Originally posted by lou
I don't know whether to believe it or not. I hope it comes out but after such a long time even if it performs well I will probably be dissappointed. What do you guys think better than Aem or not.
Do you guys know about the new AEM V2 Icebox that is coming out? Check out their website. It will be made for all Acuras too. I also saw a little exerp of it in the "sports compact" magazine.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 11:17 AM
  #8  
typeR's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 7,588
Likes: 48
From: Port Richey, FL
Re: Re: Comptech Ice-Box debute Feb 14 ???

Originally posted by cbs
Do you guys know about the new AEM V2 Icebox that is coming out? Check out their website. It will be made for all Acuras too. I also saw a little exerp of it in the "sports compact" magazine.
and the V2 uses the hemholtz priciple to achieve it's huge gains...16/18 on a civic ...i wonder if that would be complimentary to the S concidering were already using hemholtz?i notice it's coming out for the non S TL/CL ,im sure it could be moddified to fit
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 11:44 AM
  #9  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Re: Re: Re: Comptech Ice-Box debute Feb 14 ???

Originally posted by typeR
and the V2 uses the hemholtz priciple to achieve it's huge gains...16/18 on a civic ...i wonder if that would be complimentary to the S concidering were already using hemholtz?i notice it's coming out for the non S TL/CL ,im sure it could be moddified to fit
When is it coming out?
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:37 PM
  #10  
cbs_RENAMED's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
From: Virginia
Re: Re: Re: Re: Comptech Ice-Box debute Feb 14 ???

Originally posted by Zapata
When is it coming out?
The V2 box is supposedly coming for TL-p and CL-p in a couple of months. The part numbers are listed. But there is no date for Tl-S or CL-S yet. For more info, check out www.aempower.com
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:45 PM
  #11  
Pappy's Avatar
Do it! U Only Live Once!
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,692
Likes: 0
From: WPB, Florida
One of the things I like about the Icebox design is that you can get to the air filter like you can the standard box. You don't have to bust your balls trying to get to it from under the car plus it stays cleaner. I would guess you would get as much if not more power than the CAI units that are on the market today. I've waited so long for it now...I guess I can wait another month. I can't think of any disadvanges compared to the other type units.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:47 PM
  #12  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Dean,
What's the deal? Is the TypeS ice box being released on the 14th?
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 12:47 PM
  #13  
Pappy's Avatar
Do it! U Only Live Once!
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 1,692
Likes: 0
From: WPB, Florida
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Comptech Ice-Box debute Feb 14 ???

Originally posted by cbs
The V2 box is supposedly coming for TL-p and CL-p in a couple of months. The part numbers are listed. But there is no date for Tl-S or CL-S yet. For more info, check out www.aempower.com
Deansbluesi says it will be shipped out the 15th of this month. I hope they weren't bullshitting him.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 04:27 PM
  #14  
ga2000's Avatar
1/4 14.4 at 95
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 777
Likes: 0
From: long island ny
i think im not sure but the comptech products are we all sure where not just paying that extra money just for the name
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 05:00 PM
  #15  
Six Shifter's Avatar
an adult perspective
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,784
Likes: 26
From: York, Pa
hope that somebody with the necessary resources can do a good a-b-c-d comparison between K&N filter/K&N filter with resonator removed/AEM CAI/Icebox and let those of us who have been waiting for this item to become available make an educated decision. Please!
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 06:45 PM
  #16  
DeansblackCLS's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 389
Likes: 1
From: Florida
Zapata and others.....

Yes! they will be shipping out on Monday--17th. All the parts are basically there, they are putting together kits and will be shipping out on Monday.

Dean
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:37 PM
  #17  
SFLA_Type-S's Avatar
Sold 12/29/04 :-(
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,277
Likes: 0
From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Re: Re: Comptech Ice-Box debute Feb 14 ???

Originally posted by cbs
Do you guys know about the new AEM V2 Icebox that is coming out? Check out their website. It will be made for all Acuras too. I also saw a little exerp of it in the "sports compact" magazine.


The Science of Cold Air Technology Has Evolved
The AEM V2 Cold Air utilizes a dual chamber (using two different diameters and lengths of piping), to create multiple frequency sound waves that help charge the cylinders with air throughout the entire rpm range.

We have realized significant power gains—even over our original Cold Air induction systems—with the AEM V2.We are confident that it is the most sophisticated, power producing air induction system on the market.



The AEM V2 Cold Air induction system uses a dual chamber to create multiple frequency sound waves (represented in red and yellow).This helps charge the cylinder with air in the upper rpm range for more power across the entire rpm range.




Compare the sound wave properties and flow of our traditional Cold Air system (left), with the V2 Cold Air induction system (right).
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2003 | 09:46 PM
  #18  
CL®'s Avatar
Instructor
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 195
Likes: 0
From: LA
does the filter that comes with the ice box a dual stage foam filter?
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 02:23 AM
  #19  
EricL's Avatar
Suzuka Master
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 7,388
Likes: 1
From: Ninth Gate & So Cal
I never got through to AEM the other day (phones where tied up when ever I called), but I would like to know if and where a bypass valve goes if someone wanted to install one (ON THE NEW V2 – look carefully at it).

I looked at the device and unless there is an internal anti-hydrolock feature, it looks like a bypass would have to be installed right between the TB and the V2. With the “current” AEM CAI's – for the Acura CL Type-S – AEM tells people to put the bypass AWAY from the TB.

As Pappy mentioned, the one issue that "haunts" the AEM CAI, is the lack of maintainability. An air filter is something that should be able to be changed in a couple of minutes (my opinion) without looking upside down to "deal with it."
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 03:27 AM
  #20  
mattg's Avatar
Senior Moderator
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 22,909
Likes: 388
From: OR
so if the V2 pipe for the Civic Si is 4" diameter, does that mean the cl-s pipe would be 5"



Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 10:15 AM
  #21  
Caddy©'s Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 7,281
Likes: 7
From: Ringgold, Georgia, U.S
Orders

That mean they would take orders on Friday ?
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 10:41 AM
  #22  
DeansblackCLS's Avatar
Racer
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 389
Likes: 1
From: Florida
caddy,

We have already placed our orders (12) with Comptech so that they are "on file" and will be shipping without delays. You can probably order at any time--through Comptech or myself.

Just so everyone knows---we are not charging cards until the Iceboxes are shipped out.

Thanks again
Dean
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 10:56 AM
  #23  
ferizzo's Avatar
still a Masshole
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 8,774
Likes: 2
From: New York, NY
Dean,

Whats your price? Also, do you have a site that lists all the products you sell?

Fred
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 11:52 AM
  #24  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
here's something to note about the V2 and the Comptech intake.

The comptech intake should perform pretty good just as the V2. If anything they are probably going to be somewhat simililar in performance but only a true dyno will reveal that.

The other thing to remember is that since the Comptech houses the filter under the hood and not lower like the V2, accessing the filter for cleaning and checkup's is a hell of a lot easier. You don't have to take off the bumper each time (unless there's a way to get to it from the wheel well)

So if performance is the same, maintenence should be the next thing you guys should consider.

And yes i do believe the comptech intake is a dual stage filter. But i need someone to double check that for me.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 11:55 AM
  #25  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
The new AEM v2 design is nice they really improved over the previous release. The basic AEM is a POS design when you really begin to look at pipe design. Comptech has also address some issues in terms of pipe length, inlet design, pipe diameter.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 11:59 AM
  #26  
Shawn S's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 20,014
Likes: 0
From: Hellertown, Pa. USA
Originally posted by slyraskal
The other thing to remember is that since the Comptech houses the filter under the hood and not lower like the V2, accessing the filter for cleaning and checkup's is a hell of a lot easier. You don't have to take off the bumper each time (unless there's a way to get to it from the wheel well)
The CAI filter only needs to be cleaned and oiled once or twice a year.
It only takes 5-minutes to remove a few fasteners under the front of the car and it pulls right out.
No need to remove the bumper.

I don’t see what the big issue over maintenance is.

Shawn S
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 12:05 PM
  #27  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
Originally posted by Shawn S
The CAI filter only needs to be cleaned and oiled once or twice a year.
It only takes 5-minutes to remove a few fasteners under the front of the car and it pulls right out.
No need to remove the bumper.

I don’t see what the big issue over maintenance is.

Shawn S
Just a note for those people that aren't mechanically inclined.

For myself, i wouldn't care about removing the bumper or getting under the car yada yada yada, I'm just letting other's know that's all.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 12:09 PM
  #28  
Scrib's Avatar
Administrator Alumnus
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 26,326
Likes: 131
From: Northwest IN
Who has to remove the bumper to get the filter out?
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 12:11 PM
  #29  
jimcol711's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,227
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee, WI
the AEM V2 is a fricking SHAM!!! give me a break, they are using the SAME BS marketing as the TORNADO!!!!! am i the only one who noticed this??? give me a break, we all know how effective the TORNADO IS!!

its just AEM trying to get everyone to buy ANOTHER product from them....if i get a CAI type device, it would definately be a comptech ICEBOX...that type of design is clearly superior to any close-ended filter CAI tube type setup.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 12:12 PM
  #30  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Originally posted by jimcol711
the AEM V2 is a fricking SHAM!!! give me a break, they are using the SAME BS marketing as the TORNADO!!!!! am i the only one who noticed this??? give me a break, we all know how effective the TORNADO IS!!

its just AEM trying to get everyone to buy ANOTHER product from them....if i get a CAI type device, it would definately be a comptech ICEBOX...that type of design is clearly superior to any close-ended filter CAI tube type setup.


Why do you continually embarass yourself?
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 12:20 PM
  #31  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
Originally posted by Zapata
Why do you continually embarass yourself?
I don't think he's trying to. sometimes it's natural.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 12:50 PM
  #32  
jimcol711's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,227
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee, WI
Originally posted by Zapata
Why do you continually embarass yourself?

fuck you, if you wanna go ahead and waste your money on this crap, go ahead, but im not gonna be a fucking moron and fall prey to AEM's marketing scheme that is simply a WIDER tube....big deal, what good wil that do...nothing, besides disrupt airflow as it goes from the RIDICULOUSLY LARGE tube, to the normal size tube that goes into the throttle body. look at their stupid marketing diagrams showing HUUUUGE airflow with the V2....give me a fucking break...thats such bullshit. it looks just like the bullshit marketing of the TORNADO

you can fuck yourself with your AEM V2 as thats about all its good for. get the fuck off my case asshole, im sick of you talking shit.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:07 PM
  #33  
Shawn S's Avatar
Team Owner
 
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 20,014
Likes: 0
From: Hellertown, Pa. USA
Originally posted by jimcol711
AEM's marketing scheme that is simply a WIDER tube....big deal, what good wil that do...nothing
But GM says “Wider is Better” so it MUST be true….NO ???

Shawn S
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:12 PM
  #34  
Rod's Avatar
Rod
Drifting
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,493
Likes: 0
From: Miami, FL
I'm going to have to agree on AEM just using some good marketing here, but let's see what independent dynos show.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:16 PM
  #35  
moomaster_99's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 9,151
Likes: 0
From: Somewhere between here and there, yet neither.
We tested that type of intake pipe at Weapon-R. It seems to be only useful for 4 cylinder motors since their TBs are so much weaker than ours, it needs a reserve.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:29 PM
  #36  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Jim,
You REALLY don't have any clue when it comes to design and theory for performance products. Go to amazon.com and buy some books on performance tuning/design. You won't be so quick to dismiss things as rubish.

BTW. Tornado is trying to say it creates a votrex for better fuel air mix and V2 is based on fluid dynamics. They are completely unreleated and your insistance on saying that they are further underscores how uninformed you are.

Originally posted by jimcol711
fuck you, if you wanna go ahead and waste your money on this crap, go ahead, but im not gonna be a fucking moron and fall prey to AEM's marketing scheme that is simply a WIDER tube....big deal, what good wil that do...nothing, besides disrupt airflow as it goes from the RIDICULOUSLY LARGE tube, to the normal size tube that goes into the throttle body. look at their stupid marketing diagrams showing HUUUUGE airflow with the V2....give me a fucking break...thats such bullshit. it looks just like the bullshit marketing of the TORNADO

you can fuck yourself with your AEM V2 as thats about all its good for. get the fuck off my case asshole, im sick of you talking shit.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:46 PM
  #37  
Sly Raskal's Avatar
Team Owner
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 30,991
Likes: 582
From: Fontana, California
Originally posted by Zapata
Jim,
You REALLY don't have any clue when it comes to design and theory for performance products. Go to amazon.com and buy some books on performance tuning/design. You won't be so quick to dismiss things as rubish.

BTW. Tornado is trying to say it creates a votrex for better fuel air mix and V2 is based on fluid dynamics. They are completely unreleated and your insistance on saying that they are further underscores how uninformed you are.
You're absoluetly right about the tornado thing Zapata.

The tornado bs is they have some metal thing they made that sits in the pipe and creates this vortex of air. Has nothing to do with pipe diameter at all!

The V2 design allows more air into the manifold by increasing the pipe diameter. Sure the stock TB may not be up to par for this, but that's also why they make bigger throttle bodies to handle the larger amount of air.

So couple the bigger intake with a bigger TB let's say from edelbrock and i'd say you have a very nice intake system. Even thought i'm going with comptech, i'd say that AEM is trying something, But who knows, only a Dyno run will prove it.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:46 PM
  #38  
Caddy©'s Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 7,281
Likes: 7
From: Ringgold, Georgia, U.S
Zapata

How you liking those 225/50s ? Fill up the Wheel Well Nicely huh ?



Originally posted by Zapata
Jim,
You REALLY don't have any clue when it comes to design and theory for performance products. Go to amazon.com and buy some books on performance tuning/design. You won't be so quick to dismiss things as rubish.

BTW. Tornado is trying to say it creates a votrex for better fuel air mix and V2 is based on fluid dynamics. They are completely unreleated and your insistance on saying that they are further underscores how uninformed you are.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:51 PM
  #39  
mr. big's Avatar
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,067
Likes: 0
From: L.A.
so will the CT icebox be loud like AEM? and also do u need to remove the bumper for installation? like AEM?
Oh and how much is it going for?
thx
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2003 | 01:56 PM
  #40  
Zapata's Avatar
Cost Drivers!!!!
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 19,392
Likes: 1
From: burbs of philly
Originally posted by caddy
Zapata

How you liking those 225/50s ? Fill up the Wheel Well Nicely huh ?
:sqnteek:
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:26 AM.