You guys always praise on how you CLs drive in a straight line, and bash on cars that arent capable of matching those 0-60 times. But you forget one important thing. CL-S is DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMNNNNNN ugly. Flame all you want, but its known that the exterior of the IS300 kicks the crap out of your CL's. Also the handling sucks major ass. And all that crap about the IS being a corolla... please. As if the CL wasnt based on an accord. Its also a big ass boat of a car. Over a FOOT longer than the 3 series and IS300. Sporty? I think not. Boaty?... maybe. Bang for your buck? nah. I cant wait till i meet one of you CL-s owners on the street. I can kill you with my GS400 right now, or kill you with my supercharged IS300 later(gimme a few months).

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Whats the matter? Couldnt afford a Lexus? Get a real car losers, not some accord on steriods... punks.

 

And I can kill your GS400 with my 540i right now! Ok, so you have a supercharged IS300...anyone can mod something and make it faster. Yet you have a good point about CLS owners bashing the IS300, personally I think the IS300 is a well made car as I've driven one. As far as interior, I totally disagree with you. Yes, Lexus makes great vehicles, yes the IS300 handles great, but I think you took most or all of what people posted too serious. I don't own a CL-S but I do own a TL and a 540i. Not tryin to stick up for the CL boys but...loosen up dude or get a life!


[What's the matter? Couldn't quite afford a real sports sedan? Get a real car loser and not some 540i wannabe!
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I just posted out of anger because a lot of the posts i see on this board and the racing board put down the IS very harshly. I just wanna let the CL-S owners know that their cars arent the GOD of all luxury sports cars. In fact, I love the TL, and consider it to be one of the best cars right now. However, I sense that the TL owners have a lot more respect for other cars than these punk ass CL owners who think their cars are the shit. I just wanna let these numbnuts know that their cars are beatable, especially by the very tunable IS which they love bashing so much. Later.

 

Oh and by the way, my GS4 has an intake, exhaust, ecu upgrade, and a few other mods, and is curently running about 335 HP. If your 540 is stock, I should be able to beat that. No offense though, the 540 is a sweet ride. Just not my cup of tea.

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Whats the matter? Couldnt afford a Lexus? Get a real car losers, not some accord on steriods... punks.

 

Lexis, I understand as some of these guys were "beating" up on the TL in the past but you have to realize that we are all opinionated by nature, some more than others. I am just as guilty of bashing the IS300 until I went and drove one, then it changed my total outlook on the car (though I still don't like the interior ). I agree that a modded IS300 is very fast but you also have to realize that comment will only set you up for "the CL-S can be modded too". Fact is, you bought the IS cuz your pesonal reasons and these guys bought CL's for their own reason. Not to stick up for the CL guys but a $300 mod will make the CL handle much better than stock. The IS300 is like $35K equally equiped to the CLS which is only $30K so immagine if they spent $5K to make the price even on mods. Just a thought. Again, don't take too much of this seriously as most of these guys have mcuh respect for Lexus in general, ok.

 

IS300 OWNZ JOOO BITCH

 

I agree with you that there has been too much bashing on IS300's. But the knife cuts both ways. When I first started looking at both these cars I first went to the IS300 message board. Over there I noticed many board members bashing the cl-type-s. At this time I hadn't test drove either one. This got my interest up. I then decided to test drive both vehicles. I liked the IS300 but I wasnt too fond of the tailights, too many civics with them. I also didn't like the interior and the size. I'm about six feet tall and I felt like I was in a disneyland autopia car. The car did handle well but there wasn't as much power as I had hoped for. I then test drove the cl, it had a lot more power off the lot than the lexus and felt a lot more luxurious. It didn't handle as well as the is300 but I expected that. I ended up going for the cl because it was definitely more suited too my tastes. Much more refined and less racer boy than the IS300. I think they are both great cars and they really aren't in the same class. I wouldn't lump all cl owners as is300 haters. Just as I wouldn't classify an IS300 owner as a cl hater. As far as the exterior styling goes, its all a matter of preference. Some people hate the look of the IS300 while others love it, same thing with the cls. As far as your IS300 killing me in a couple of months, come back in a couple of months, then we'll talk. Until then enjoy the board.

 

Fuck you LEXis

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True Hip-hop junkie

 

hey hey... lets not flame here people.
keep it cool.

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2001 CL Premium w/ Navigation (purchased 4/01/2000)
Satin Silver, Black interior

-Comptech sport springs
-18x8.5" Altstadt/Zivell Speed alloy wheels (+41mm offset)
-225/40/ZR18 Pirelli P-7000 Supersport (front)
-225/40/ZR18 Pirelli P-Zero (rear)
-Cleared lights!
-Polarg M-4 road lamps
-APC 9005 hi-beams


1994 Honda Civic EX
0-60 in 4.26 days

 

OL
IS=Incredibly Slow 300
LOLOL
U use a V8 to beat a V6? thats pretty pathetic little boy......
Now why dont u use ur I6 IS300 ? sounds fair???but too bad ur crap ass car only pumps out 215 donkeys....
By the way......how do u know the CL looks ugly????? most of u IS ppl only can get a glance at our tail lights for god sakes!
LOLz! ur the biggest joke ......
eat some dust pal

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TypeS - Agressively Engineered to Perform...

 

This guy is an:







Shawn S

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Speed limits are for CARS and DRIVERS whose limits are easily exceeded !!!!!

2001 CL Type S - NAV - San Marino RED / Parchment - Spoiler - 35% Tint - Roof Visor - PIAA Lamps
GOLD Emblems & Grill - V1 w/remote - KICKER ZR-360 w/(2) 10" Alumapro Subs - Shine by ZAINO
For Pictures see: PAGE 1 PAGE 2 PAGE 3 PAGE 4 V1 & SUBS

 

LEXis, I can understand how the IS300 bashing is upsetting to you. It is always unsettling when you read a negative comment about the car in your possession. It places you in a position that questions your decision-making skills on whether or not you bought the right car. And, you feel defensive because it is a direct assault on your personal self. In my opinion, the bashing is a result of insecurity and immaturity. That is why I usually do not involve myself in it. Now, I'm not accusing anybody of anything on this board, just making my personal opinions known. After all, everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Now, if you want to continue bashing the CL-S/CL-P, that is your personal decision to do so...just expect people to bash the IS300 in retaliation.

As for your challenge, why don't you reveal your location? That way, somebody on this forum would be in a geographical situation that would allow them to take you up on your challenge.

 

LEXis:
I too agree that there is too much bashing on the IS3. I love the IS. I was seriously looking into getting one. Performance wise they are great handlers, but their engines are pretty weak. If I had a choice between a CL-S and an IS300 it would be a VERY tough choice but I would prob. take the IS3 due to it's styling rather than performance. Being that I'm only 16 I feel that the IS would suit me well. For now though I am very content with my TL.

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Y2K Satin Silver/Ebony 3.2TL
PERFORMANCE MODS:
AEM SR intake w/ custom CAI conversion | Magnaflow axle-back quad exhaust | Modified Downpipe | Modded Neuspeed sport springs(3.5"F/3"R)
EXTERIOR STYLING:
Acura Wing | Mesh grill | "Euro" Headlight finishers | Acura Indiglo EL Emblem| 20%/35% Llumar Platinum tint
INTERIOR STYLING:
Razo RA42 shifter | Alloy pedals | Escort Passport 7500

 

Ha! Is300.net is down. I hope your car is more reliable than your site. Look out everyone, we might get a bunch of is3c refugees in here until their little respite is back up.

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Red 3.2 CL-S.
"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino

 

Don't even waste time dignifying this guy's comments with a response.

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Black/black CLS
Comptech headers, springs, swaybars
Koni yellows
PIAA 19169 road lamps
Solaris Hi beams
Potenza RE730 225/45/17
35% tint/CAI next

 

I bet you'd find a lot less IS bashing on the IS sites...maybe try posting over there.

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01 CL-S San Marino Red/Black, K&N drop in, no nav, rear wing, otherwise stock thus far, has an appetite for Bavarian cars.

 

What a fag... You catually came here to post that your Corolla, I mean IS, is better than a Type S. Ok, I am fine with that. But then you actually stooped so low that you went and put another car in it's place! You are talking all of this trash about how much better your car is, and then you go and say that you can beat our cars with you GS400! That isn't exactly an IS 300 is it? Ok fine you go and do all your mods. But truth is, if you do all of the same mods to both of our cars, which one would be faster? Um, gee I don't know, maybe the S? If our car is faster from the start, and you do all the same mods to both of our cars, isn't it obvious? It doesn't take a road scholar to figure it out

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Why buy a special edition car and not drive it like it was meant to be driven

 

Your calling us losers but yet you are reading another forum and posting crap just to try and get in a fight. If you dont like the IS bashing then dont read the CL forum. Didnt your mother ever tell you that if you dont have anything nice to say dont say anything at all? Try it.



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'97 CL with custom scratches thanks to my mom's "wonderful" cats

 

Grow up !

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2001 CL Type S Black/Ebony w/NAVI, PIAA bulbs, Tinted windows, JL Sub-woofer/Fosgate 250 watt amp, otherwise pure stock
1998 Accord Coupe EX-V6
Black Currant Pearl, PIAA bulbs, tinted windows, Fosgate 500 watt amp, Eclipes 6X9's,JL Sub-woofer, otherwise PURE stock !

 

If yah can't take the heat, get outta the kitchen. This is a site composed of CL owners (and wanna be owners), some a bit immature, but all enthusiastic! IMHO..

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Eat Safe, Use Condiments
red CL-S, non-Nav

 

Mornin folks

Hope none of our moderators are stuck in the snow...

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit