I was on my way to lunch and i see this M3 (old model, not the 333 hp one) getting on the freeway. He had exhaust, body kit, and a nice set of wheels. I pull up next to him and he starts smiling. I never raced and M3, i was expecting to get smoked really bad. Soon as I heard his exhaust vibrating i floored it. We were dead even during my second gear. When my car shifted to third i lost like 1/2 car length, but i pulled next to him at like 6000 rpm and slowly started gaining on him. I cut off at like 120 because i could see traffic building up ahead. When i looked back he was right behind me. After that i was really pumped and shaking with adrenaline LOL. Are we supposed to beat M3's??? Maybe he was a bad driver?
How many horsepower do the old m3's have?

 

A driver's race determines anything.

 

yea tru i pulled with a supercharged GT mustang a while back... i know that if we were off of the line i would have had my ass handed to me! but it def. depends on the driver!

 

But are CL's faster than old M3's?

 

Hell No

 

The CL-S can take an E36 with a good driver.

 

Let me add in on this....

Stock for Stock

CLS AT vs M3 AT --> the M3 should edge them out...but it will be pretty close

CLS6 vs M3 MT --> driver's race

 

I'll turn on Channell 2 if I wanna C BS

 

Wrong. My good friend has a 97 M3 Auto and we have raced many times even when I was stock, he would beat me until about 20 and from then on I would walk away. When I added my mods it got even worse especially on the highway.

 

The previous gen of M3's could pull 60 in under 6 seconds.

 

the cls is like 5.8 or 5.9 rated 0-60 also.

 

^^^ with h/i. w/o h/i an auto cls will pull a ~6.6 0-60

 

i believe the last gen m3 was rated at 240/240 hp/torque

 

Where??? G35's (auto sedans) are rated 6.3 - 6.6 and invariably smoke CL-S's.

 

a cls w/intake and headers will run 5.8-5.9 i.e., low 14s.

 

its about the same power in both cars, but M3's ahve alot more torque and lighter i'm guessing. plus the RWD

 

I'd say so. I beat 3 different ones. Really close, but won none the less.

Ruf

 

Where did you learn how to drive?

 

i was talking about the 6 speed cls hehe.
http://www.car-videos.com/performanc...?id1=183&id2=0

the autos are rated at like 7.1 or something like that

the 6 speed G35 coupe is 5.5 rated anthe auto is around 6.2

the older m3 is 5.5 0-60 and low 14s 1/4 mile.

so it would definately be a drivers race against a 6 speed cls... auto would have to be heavily modded.

 

Magazine racer stats:

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Obtained from R&T July, 2002
0-60: 6.5 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 14.9
1/4 Speed: 96

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Obtained from C&D July, 2002
0-60: 5.9 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.6
1/4 Speed: 98

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
Obtained from C&D April, 2003
0-60: 5.5 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.2
1/4 Speed: 100

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Infiniti G35 Sedan
Obtained from C&D May, 2002
0-60: 6.2 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 14.9
1/4 Speed: 96

Car-Stats.com Report for 1998 BMW M3
Obtained from MT August, 1998
0-60: 5.5 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 14
1/4 Speed: 99

These are all close enough that it would be a driver's race...especially someone behind the wheel of a manual. Our beloved auto CLS needs H/I to be competitive.

 

I agree with the ME and G35 coupe, but the sedan I have beat several times

 

Good post.

As I've said in previous racing threads, if the cars are within .5 secs of eachother . . . it comes down to the driver. Also, another big factor is how well the cars are maintained. So posted results are just guidelines and not a guarantee that the technically faster car will win.

Ruf

 

What are your mods? Sure it was blown? ...cause w/out a blower/n2o of your own(or unless it was a 5spd and he couldn't drive to save his life) he'd walk you from roll, stop, or if he gave you a lead.

 

6 speed CLS >* CL

 

Bring 'em all on.

 

lol pretty cocky for a guy w/a fwd car only running 13s

 

I'll change my tune when an M3 beats me for once

 

you'll get yours

 

mrsteve do you beat the new m3's?

 

He should be able to keep up with them no problem, probably beat a few drivers who don't know what they're doing. Especially the ones that are only keeping up with stock '04 TLs and modded TL-Ps :p

 

They are normally a good race

 

You must be having fun in your CL....

 

wrong.... a MT CL6 can do 0-60 in under 6 sec stock.. No need for i/h to do that...

 

What abooot a 2003 CLS 6 speed, with Supercharger Intercooler, Headers, Exhaust ...

what kind of 0-60 times could that thing do ? or 1/4 mile times ?


J

 

2.3 0-60 10.75 @129 MPH

 

wow, ok thats a little out of budget what about with just headers exhaust, and intercooler ( btw do u really need an intercooler or will it any significant increase if u dont got supercharger or turbo) or without intercooler ? and how much HP would that give u ?

Thanks heh,

Julio

 

An intercooler is only needed for force inducted vehicles... you're probably talking about a tranny cooler? right?

 

nvm, im a nub ... umm

High Flow Air Intake (icebox??) ... thats the one

J

 

I was joking about those numbers by the way

 

I/H/E = Intake / Headers / Exhaust... i guess are the standard basic bolt ons.
Intake/Exhaust would give it a couple of horsies...headers would be the best investment..headers alone i've seen 20+hp..best bang for your buck..everytime i tell my friends headers for our cl-s would give 20+hp they would just think im bullshitting..i was amazed too when i first got my cls....

to sum it up.. I/H/E= 25-30ish+ hp to the wheels? someone correct me if im wrong b/c i don't have headers YET..soon to come though.

ohyeah a little off the topic here..SOMEONE PLEASSSSSSE! let me test drive your 5spd Comptech supercharged CLS i wanna feel how it kicks! i need motivation to save up money and pick a SC'er up! PLEASE?!