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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 12:55 AM
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A cheap turbo that works?

http://www.ststurbo.com/

What do you think guys... it makes sense and it would deff give at least like 5lbs of boost from all that exhaust air.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 01:13 AM
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after searching through the website I think this is a pretty good product. It makes turbocharging easy. I believe within the next few years youmind find alot of cars using this kit. Do you think we might have to convert our cars to a single exhaust system? If so, its well worth it!
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 01:31 AM
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Sounds interesting, but would that produce a lot of turbo lag?
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 02:45 AM
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Probably? They may us a larger turbo?
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 03:20 AM
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mustang launch=sex
I'd buy it for mine!!
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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wow

I can't believe that. that's crazy! Looks like this will usher in an era of turbo mania. Everyone one with an exhaust looks like they can be boosted. our CLs look like they would have to use a twin turbo setup since we have dual exhaust. It would have less lag than a single turbo if the turbos are cheap. I can't imagine the power you would put out with an aftermarket exhaust plus those turbos. The power and sound would be feirce.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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what turbo system would you need to get for acura 3.0cl. I didnt see anything available for acura cars except the integras and those arent even available yet.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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Looks like they are working on a universal set up. I guess we will have to wait until it gets done. maybe they will make one for our CLs if we bug them enough.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by o2cls
mustang launch=sex
I'd buy it for mine!!
did u see the single turbo setup on the mustang in which they made the wastegate look like a real exhaust? I thought that was a cool look. I would definitly want that same setup
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hoss
Sounds interesting, but would that produce a lot of turbo lag?
From the website :
With the turbo so far back, don't you get a lot of turbo lag?
No, our turbochargers are sized to operate at this remote location. Just like any turbocharger, once the turbo is up to temperature and in the rpm range for which it was designed to operate. The boost comes on hard and fast. All of our systems will produce full boost below 3000 rpm.
If you were to take a conventional turbo and place it at the rear, you would have lots of lag and consequently, our turbo wouldn't work properly if mounted up front.

According to the whole set up, there are definately pros and cons to this type of turbocharging. Its just up to you on which outweighs the other. Lets start.
*No need for a turbo manifold, just a mess of extra hoses and pipes running down the length of the vehicle.
*Exhaust restriction when cruising = lower engine exhaust velocity = lower gas mileage
*Lower engine temperature
*Easily converts back into stock in less than one hour. Wonderful. Easier to become stolen.
*Decreased traction due to extra weight at the rear of a FF vehicle
*Very simple set up and does prove its point. To improve horsepower and torque
*Extremely vulnerable to water logging the turbo charger. Should invest in an underbody carriage or skid plate.
*For the price of 3400 I'd rather make my own kit with software and fmic.
*No fuel management
*Hope your not lowered. With all the extra piping being run from the front, your bound to dent something.

To me its not a bad idea for cars like our's where we could set up two smaller turbochargers but in the long run, you are safer with the conventional turbo systems/superchargers. Just my
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by tommyt1
From the website :
With the turbo so far back, don't you get a lot of turbo lag?
No, our turbochargers are sized to operate at this remote location. Just like any turbocharger, once the turbo is up to temperature and in the rpm range for which it was designed to operate. The boost comes on hard and fast. All of our systems will produce full boost below 3000 rpm.
If you were to take a conventional turbo and place it at the rear, you would have lots of lag and consequently, our turbo wouldn't work properly if mounted up front.

According to the whole set up, there are definately pros and cons to this type of turbocharging. Its just up to you on which outweighs the other. Lets start.
*No need for a turbo manifold, just a mess of extra hoses and pipes running down the length of the vehicle.
*Exhaust restriction when cruising = lower engine exhaust velocity = lower gas mileage
*Lower engine temperature
*Easily converts back into stock in less than one hour. Wonderful. Easier to become stolen.
*Decreased traction due to extra weight at the rear of a FF vehicle
*Very simple set up and does prove its point. To improve horsepower and torque
*Extremely vulnerable to water logging the turbo charger. Should invest in an underbody carriage or skid plate.
*For the price of 3400 I'd rather make my own kit with software and fmic.
*No fuel management
*Hope your not lowered. With all the extra piping being run from the front, your bound to dent something.

To me its not a bad idea for cars like our's where we could set up two smaller turbochargers but in the long run, you are safer with the conventional turbo systems/superchargers. Just my

This is true, but what turbo kit is made for our cars with fuel management? none.
This system is possible of being vulnerable to water so is a CAI but, the system provides a snorkel kit for the airfilter.

The amount you spend on this you might as well get a supercharger but then your limited on power. To each it own and to own its each. I like the system. I'm into new technology and being innovative. But that's me
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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This is a great new innovation and for the price of a used comptech s/c it seems well worth it. Plus it has an awesome sound.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CLsuperhero
I can't believe that. that's crazy! Looks like this will usher in an era of turbo mania. Everyone one with an exhaust looks like they can be boosted. our CLs look like they would have to use a twin turbo setup since we have dual exhaust. It would have less lag than a single turbo if the turbos are cheap. I can't imagine the power you would put out with an aftermarket exhaust plus those turbos. The power and sound would be feirce.
The CL has a single exhaust. It splits further back at the y-pipe and leads to 2 mufflers.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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there was a similar product or maybe it was this one posted a while ago. It had the same basic principle. It seems like it would work, just an issue of pipes and space.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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This definitley doesnt seem practical on a Daily Driver though.:twocents:
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:42 AM
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Try the Turbonator!!!!!
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by hoss
This definitley doesnt seem practical on a Daily Driver though.:twocents:

You are correct. The air filter is in no way protected from water entering the intake.
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Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by willieesco420
Try the Turbonator!!!!!

ugh.... no.

Unlike the turbonator this system actually works and is reliable. However it is not ideal for a daily driver and due to the amount of plumbing required to run this type of set up you'll experience a great deal of lag compared to conventional systems.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
ugh.... no.

Unlike the turbonator this system actually works and is reliable. However it is not ideal for a daily driver and due to the amount of plumbing required to run this type of set up you'll experience a great deal of lag compared to conventional systems.
I've been all over the net and they claim this system has very little to no lag due to the setup and the type of turbo it uses?? I't more a ideal for trucks and f-body cars like camaros, t-birds, trans am, and vette's. Majority of these vehicles uses v-8s. That already makes up for lag. Check out the integera on the site. Is that a quick launch?

http://www.ststurbo.com/sema_videos
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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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well we already now which turbo is best for our cars. It's the GT35R from Garrett. The question is would STS be willing make a system for our cars with it or would that just slap on a crap turbo that gives us major lag.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Well I e-mailed them and they said they would be coming out with more kits in the future for other makes and models. They said I'll put you in our database and will contact you when we have a kit for your vehicle. So we will have to wait and see on this one...
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Don't waste your time. Again, this system is completely impractical for a daily driver.
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Old Apr 15, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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Here's a reply message that I 've received from Nyc at STS. It probably won't change your mind but, i thought i share anyway.



Tay


Unfortunately we do not offer a bolt-on kit for your vehicle.

If you're interested in a little more work, we might have another way for you to get your vehicle turbocharged.

We sell a universal system that comes with everything but the needed plumbing and tuning.

The universal kit comes with the following items:
*Garrett Turbo(sized according to your application)
*Tial 38 mm Wastegate
*STS oil pump with standard pressure alarms
*All return and supply oil lines
*STS wiring harness to operate oiling system with alarms and PCV system
*PCV pressure switch and switch valve system
*Flanges for turbo attachment
*Air Filter
*STS instruction manual


The universal system sells for $3125.00 shipping & handling is $120.00. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns please give me a call or e-mail me anytime.


Thanks, Nyc

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For you guys in the NJ, Anger Management in Brick works with these turbo's 908-814-1771. The contact person is Tommy. I like this setup and definitly consider it. If its not going to be for the CL-S it will probably be for a truck in the future. The turbo they they would use would be the same as the one for Tacoma (t3/t4 hybrid) but, with a smaller housing.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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yeah I have my reservations about this set up, but for the price you can't beat it. We need a guinea pig. Anybody know of anyone personally who has this set up on a car or truck? It's like the megan headers of turbo kits. it's got it's problems but it may be tolerable.
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Old Apr 18, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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There was a long thread at V6P.net, they were working with STS..I don't think anything ever came of it...
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Old May 13, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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i believe someone had a turbocharged cl-s and he came thru with 450 hp.... somewhere in this site... sorry, dont have link!
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Old May 13, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by black_type-s
i believe someone had a turbocharged cl-s and he came thru with 450 hp.... somewhere in this site... sorry, dont have link!
Probably thin jim I think on the last post he made 464 whp ,but that was with a conventional turbo set up
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Old May 13, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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might not be conventional for a daily driver, but hey for a project car, this would be crazy. You guys dont think there could be a way of mounting it that would make it more practical for a daily driver? for the price and reported possible gains, it would be awesome if it was a success
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Old May 13, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
The air filter is in no way protected from water entering the intake.
what about this?


its a snorkel kit that mounts to the turbo so that you can mount it somewhere where water is alot less likely to reach it
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Old May 13, 2006 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DaInFaMMuS1
might not be conventional for a daily driver, but hey for a project car, this would be crazy. You guys dont think there could be a way of mounting it that would make it more practical for a daily driver? for the price and reported possible gains, it would be awesome if it was a success
I personally think you would be fine as long as you're not extremely lowered. Also I would advise not telling any of your buddies Psst... The turbo is hooked up underneath the car. You might walk out to your car one day and wonder where all your boost went.
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Old May 13, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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as for mounting, now that i look at the installation pics of all the cars, the turbo is mostly mounted where the exhaust would be because that is where there is enough space to place the kit...so would that mean the 2nd gen CL's would need a twin turbo setup?
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Old May 14, 2006 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by CLsuperhero
Probably thin jim I think on the last post he made 464 whp ,but that was with a conventional turbo set up
i think that was it, unfortunately, i have no clue what a conventional turbo is, guess i'll read up on it
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