can future altima compete w/ cl or even cl-s?
can future altima compete w/ cl or even cl-s?
STUPID STUPID STUPID NISSAN!
There soooo dumb. Their as dumb as Honda.
They just released a kick ass unique looking flagship Infiniti luxury car... and a week later they release thier near bottom end model... AND IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME.
Shame on them.
I liked the Altima sketches much better.
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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit
There soooo dumb. Their as dumb as Honda.
They just released a kick ass unique looking flagship Infiniti luxury car... and a week later they release thier near bottom end model... AND IT LOOKS EXACTLY THE SAME.
Shame on them.
I liked the Altima sketches much better.
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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit
I liked the 1995 models. Then the later one looked like they got kicked in the back (I should know about the 95 -- my wife owns it and I get it serviced and maintained.)
Then they show this svelte beauty -- and now...
It looks like it got butt-f**ked again. What is with this kick-in the back look?
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
[This message has been edited by EricL (edited 04-10-2001).]
Then they show this svelte beauty -- and now...
It looks like it got butt-f**ked again. What is with this kick-in the back look?
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Silver 2001 CL-S with NAVI
- Mud guards
- Wheel locks
- Toyo T1S 235/45ZR17-97W* Proxies on 17x8" SSR Competition wheels (48lbs less than stock)
- Kevlar/SS Brake lines ordered
- Comptech headers & sways ordered
- Silver AEM CAI ready
- 6 coats of Zaino magic
[This message has been edited by EricL (edited 04-10-2001).]
Talk about the new maxima SE-R V Spec? maybe tht thing would be a killer!
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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/10/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5 Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/10/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5 Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
Whats w/ all these altezza is300 lights everywhere. I tink there just butt. Hope acura never does this.
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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
me.
gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.
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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
me.
gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.
The tail lights are ok...the car overall in looks isn't all that, but i'm sure their going to start busting out kits parts left and right for that car due to the low price compared to the CL. not fare....we pay more and they end up with more mods!
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Now here's a FUNNY QUOTE from that thread...
"Maxima V6 is larger...makes more peak torque and hp...and the hp and torque is at more accessable rpm levels...gets better fuel milage. Sure the Ford V6 makes about 5-6hp per liter more than the Nissan...but the Nissan V6 makes about 5-6 ft-lbs of torque per liter more than the Ford. And you're right...the Nissan doesn't have any extrude honing done...but imagine if it did! Wouldn't that be nice? A NA V6 pushing 240-250hp?"
Ummm, hey guys, I guess you haven't been stomped by a CL-S yet, huh?
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'01 CL-S|Sundance Gold|Spoiler|35% Tint|Bridgestone Potenza RE730 225/45/17
a study in pimp daddy gold
"Maxima V6 is larger...makes more peak torque and hp...and the hp and torque is at more accessable rpm levels...gets better fuel milage. Sure the Ford V6 makes about 5-6hp per liter more than the Nissan...but the Nissan V6 makes about 5-6 ft-lbs of torque per liter more than the Ford. And you're right...the Nissan doesn't have any extrude honing done...but imagine if it did! Wouldn't that be nice? A NA V6 pushing 240-250hp?"
Ummm, hey guys, I guess you haven't been stomped by a CL-S yet, huh?

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'01 CL-S|Sundance Gold|Spoiler|35% Tint|Bridgestone Potenza RE730 225/45/17
a study in pimp daddy gold
now let me get this straight...
-S2000 look alike headlights
-Audi front half body connected to Lexus sedan back half body
-Brake lights to puke for
-rims are weird...
-NO sunroof
There's no consistent theme to this design, it's everywhere...like a BaAaAd combo platter
Good lord I hope I dont get stuck in traffic beside this hideous thing
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- Kvit -
2001 CL-P Monterey Blue, Parchment interior
Polarg BlHybrid M-6 Road lamps
Polarg/PIAA super white interior lights *bling bling*
HP Quantum 28 -- 31% metallic tint all around
Blue Lady Dragon
Ferrari F355 Challenge Lap Times (Dreamcast):
-Motegi: 0'37"822 , sprint total 2'42"892
-Suzuka (short): 0'57"873
-Atlanta: 0'31"659
[This message has been edited by KavexTrax (edited 04-11-2001).]
-S2000 look alike headlights
-Audi front half body connected to Lexus sedan back half body
-Brake lights to puke for
-rims are weird...
-NO sunroof
There's no consistent theme to this design, it's everywhere...like a BaAaAd combo platter
Good lord I hope I dont get stuck in traffic beside this hideous thing
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- Kvit -
2001 CL-P Monterey Blue, Parchment interior
Polarg BlHybrid M-6 Road lamps
Polarg/PIAA super white interior lights *bling bling*
HP Quantum 28 -- 31% metallic tint all around
Blue Lady Dragon
Ferrari F355 Challenge Lap Times (Dreamcast):
-Motegi: 0'37"822 , sprint total 2'42"892
-Suzuka (short): 0'57"873
-Atlanta: 0'31"659
[This message has been edited by KavexTrax (edited 04-11-2001).]
I doubt the Altima will have 240hp. I mean, that's fucking nearly a 100hp jump. And if that were true, the price of the car would be a lot more. The Altima is NOT a high end vehicle. It's made to compete with a lower end Accord. The Maxima is rumored to get 260hp from a RWD differential. But all this is rumors from what I hear.
I can believe the Maxima will get the 260hp, but I sincerely doubt the Altima will have the 240. It just doesn't make sense. If anything, I can see the Altima having 180 with a V6 option.
I can believe the Maxima will get the 260hp, but I sincerely doubt the Altima will have the 240. It just doesn't make sense. If anything, I can see the Altima having 180 with a V6 option.
smileman, we will all find out on wenesday. The unreveiling is at the new york auto show. Go to the nissan website and you can watch it there. im pretty sure it will be close to 240hp.
Nissan isn't the most financialy comfortable company, so don't be surprised if they do something radical to compete.
It'll only help us in the long run.
I wonder if I'll see the day when econo cars have base engines with 300hp.
...or not.
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I am a cute fuzzy squirrel.
It'll only help us in the long run.
I wonder if I'll see the day when econo cars have base engines with 300hp.

...or not.
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I am a cute fuzzy squirrel.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS:
Whats w/ all these altezza is300 lights everywhere. I tink there just butt. Hope acura never does this.
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Whats w/ all these altezza is300 lights everywhere. I tink there just butt. Hope acura never does this.
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, the RX300 now has the clear Altezza tails (they used to be red). It's a shame. Manufacturers are taking perfectly good looking cars (except for the Monte, of course
) and turning them into butt ugly pieces of crap. Something like Altezza tails are only cool if ONE or TWO cars do it. Now they're everywhere and in 4-5 years the cars that have them are going to look STUPID AS HELL!
Hasn't anyone ever driven one of these things?! Do I have to say more? They couldn't be fast if they were in a tornado going down-hill! I highly doubt that they will be 200+ HP and the Maxima will only have an extra 20! If that were the case everyone would just get the cheaper car (that is of coarse, unless it looked like this). I'm sorry, but I hope that this isn't what it looks like, they will really see sales go down now!
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Why buy a special edition car and not drive it like it was meant to be driven
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Why buy a special edition car and not drive it like it was meant to be driven
I think it's about time to start worrying or modding. If that car has 240 HP imagine what it would feel like to get beat by an altima. UGH!! I have a sick feeeling in my stomach right now. At least my CL-S looks better.
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2001 CL Type S
San Marino Red/Parchment
Spoiler, wind deflector,Wheel locks, Non Nav
No mods yet
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2001 CL Type S
San Marino Red/Parchment
Spoiler, wind deflector,Wheel locks, Non Nav
No mods yet
It's confirmed:
2.5L 180 hp I4 - 0-60 in 8.6 secs
3.5L 240 hp V6 - 0-60 in 6.3 secs (manual), 0-60 in 7.2 secs (auto)
Maxima moves up to 3.5L 260 hp V6
-optional xenons, side curtain airbags, traction control on Altima
-standard power everything (except seats), trip computer, electroluminscent instrumentation
-4 wheel disc brakes with optional ABS/Brake Assist
-standard 6 speaker 100 watt CD/cassette
-optional Bose 8 speaker system
-tilt/telescoping steering wheel
-16" wheels on I4, 17" wheels on V6 (standard)
Nothing to worry about for you guys, but it's an excellent family sedan nevertheless.
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* 1996 BMW 328is 5-speed
* 2000 Honda CBR600F4
2.5L 180 hp I4 - 0-60 in 8.6 secs
3.5L 240 hp V6 - 0-60 in 6.3 secs (manual), 0-60 in 7.2 secs (auto)
Maxima moves up to 3.5L 260 hp V6
-optional xenons, side curtain airbags, traction control on Altima
-standard power everything (except seats), trip computer, electroluminscent instrumentation
-4 wheel disc brakes with optional ABS/Brake Assist
-standard 6 speaker 100 watt CD/cassette
-optional Bose 8 speaker system
-tilt/telescoping steering wheel
-16" wheels on I4, 17" wheels on V6 (standard)
Nothing to worry about for you guys, but it's an excellent family sedan nevertheless.
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* 1996 BMW 328is 5-speed
* 2000 Honda CBR600F4
My bro has a 01 Maxima SE, and my mom has 98 Altima . I guess my mom should be thinking about getting a new Altima soon ! hehe
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2001 Acura CL-S W/Nav
Stock
Live To Drive!
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2001 Acura CL-S W/Nav
Stock
Live To Drive!
If it's true that a maximun will pump 260hp. a 300 lb lighter SE stick will kill any Stock CLS. will hit 6 flat. Hmmm time for a SC 
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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/10/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5 Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
[This message has been edited by Nashua_Night_Hawk (edited 04-11-2001).]

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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S, NAV.
- 3M clear bra, by Stonguard (full front bumper, and side mirrors, and partial hood)
- Acura Spoiler, Moonroof visor
- Splash guards, Winter mats, Trunk liner
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI
- 04/10/01: 235/40/18 NITTO 555 on 18x7.5 Koing Imagine in Silver with wheels locks
[This message has been edited by Nashua_Night_Hawk (edited 04-11-2001).]
Ok heres what i think, the maxima will have 260hp BUT it will be as big as the new q45, Cuz isnt the new altima the same size as the current maxima, i read that the new altima is a little larger than the current maxima. So which means they proablly biggie size the maxima this fall...So 260hpp in a q45 size car wont be as fast as everyone thinks. This kinda sucks that an altima can hang with the CLS.
I think that altima looks pretty damn good....my friend got one last year and with the SE trim....it looks pretty good. As for the 240...I doubt it...it would eat right into sales of the Maxima...
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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
(sooner than I thought...)
Comptech Headers
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cee eL eS:
check it out...
http://contour.org/forums/Forum1/HTML/006266.html
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check it out...
http://contour.org/forums/Forum1/HTML/006266.html
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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
(sooner than I thought...)
Comptech Headers
240hp. Who knew Nissan would be stupid enough to do it? It now directly competes with the Maxima. If I remember correctly, the prices are similar too- the 240hp is somewhere around $27k. I wonder how much the new Max will go for?
The one thing I don't understand is how come Nissan didn't think of putting a powerhouse of an engine like this into their G20? If their G20 had power like this, I would have seriously considered it over the CL-S I just bought. Instead, Nissan decides to get rid of the G20? Lamers. No wonder their asses are constantly in economic turmoil- bad decision making.
You're looking at this wrong (IMHO). Having own both an Altima and a Maxima, I'd say they didn't have much choice.
1.) the Altima was too small to compete with the Camry and Accord. They HAD to make it bigger. More, they gave it an increase in power, and more importantly they gave the Altima personality. The Altima was a great car, I'd still have it if someone else didn't think likewise and stole it. But, to make a 190,000 unit sales in that heavily-contested segment, they needed to make some radical changes, or get out of it all together. I like the changes. If I could get wood-trim, which I'm sure will be available, I'd choose the SE (manual) option. As far as the Maxima goes, it's due for the bigger engine. As a matter of fact, the New Z engine at 260 is what's going in the new Maxima....
dee
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PimpDaddy Gold, Deep Tint, BAAAAAD Attitude
1.) the Altima was too small to compete with the Camry and Accord. They HAD to make it bigger. More, they gave it an increase in power, and more importantly they gave the Altima personality. The Altima was a great car, I'd still have it if someone else didn't think likewise and stole it. But, to make a 190,000 unit sales in that heavily-contested segment, they needed to make some radical changes, or get out of it all together. I like the changes. If I could get wood-trim, which I'm sure will be available, I'd choose the SE (manual) option. As far as the Maxima goes, it's due for the bigger engine. As a matter of fact, the New Z engine at 260 is what's going in the new Maxima....
dee
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PimpDaddy Gold, Deep Tint, BAAAAAD Attitude
The deal it that they're getting rid of the shitty looking GXE maxima and hoping to fill that void with the Altima 3.5 SE. I think it's a smart move, now the Altima will be larger then the current Maxima. Maxima will keep the same body style and incorporate a 3.5 260HP V6. the 260hp 3.5 will be available in the i30 very soon too.
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2001 CL Type S
San Marino Red/Parchment
Spoiler, wind deflector,Wheel locks, Non Nav
No mods yet
[This message has been edited by Kevin (edited 05-04-2001).]
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2001 CL Type S
San Marino Red/Parchment
Spoiler, wind deflector,Wheel locks, Non Nav
No mods yet
[This message has been edited by Kevin (edited 05-04-2001).]
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