dbramaged

Can you swap the C32B into the 2nd gen CLs? There's a wrecked NSX locally and he said he'll probably be parting it out. Would it even be worth it?

JBlueCLS6

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If the swap was even possible (also need the tranny and conversion to rwd) would probably cost double what your car is worth.

dbramaged

Well, he has the tranny and everything, but it's mounted transversely so why would I have to convert to RWD? If I can get the axles, I figured it could still be FWD.

NSXNEXT

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https://acurazine.com/forums/2g-cl-2001-2003-50/acura-nsx-swap-into-second-gen-cl-459974/

dbramaged

A lot of what was in that thread is basically saying "who has the money".... "too expensive"

But if I can pick up the motor & trans for $4k, then why not? I'm more curious whether it would fit as well as axle placement line up? I can have the motor mounts made by a buddy for next to nothing if he name was spread with the guy that helped with the creation.

So, based off one post I would assume I would need:
Engine
Trans
Axles
Harness & ECU
Custom Motor mounts

This is the basic swap items for others I already have done either by myself or with a little help from friends - B18C1 into an EJ8, H23 Block/H22 head in a BB4, even a 4G63T into a Geo Metro (not mine).

I'm assuming I'm going to have to use custom hubs/bearings and possible brake configuration but still not 100% what can be transferred. That's the information I'm looking for. I'm not all that interested in cost as I can always find parts if needed, but which parts needed would be sufficient. Thanks.

dbramaged

I just called him... The engine is actually a C30A with about 65k miles on it. So I really wouldn't be gaining much with that engine? 270hp?

phee

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YOU CANT DO IT. click the link

dbramaged

I did click it and read everything. No one is talking about fitment issues over expenses back in 2004.

CH46ESeaKnight

What about the set up in the

C32A6 - SOHC USDM - 200 hp (155 kW)
1996-1998 Acura 3.2TL

Might look into this as it is a C32 engine 90 degree v6 in FWD. Might be able to get the tranny from the above car to bolt up to the C32 you are looking at. If you are serious this maybe something to consider. Also it the NSX is a auto it has even less power. Something like 250 hp.

dbramaged

He said it was a 5spd manual. But I wonder if the heads from the C30 will go on the C32A6.... Like a frankenstein setup... I've done it before with 4 cylinders.

CH46ESeaKnight

I read that the C32a and B share almost nothing. And that the C32B has more in common with the C30. IDK, i just read it 10 min ago.

dbramaged

ditto... which is why I'm wondering if the C30A heads will fit on the c32a6 block... Curious to find out how much more HP you can make out of it going DOHC rather than keeping the SOHC setup. Either way, would be a fun setup.

aznboi2424

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You got money for 4k just for parts?

civicdrivr

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Ok, I love the NSX and all, but the J series is a better engine.

First and foremost, will the C series fit? Its a DOHC 90* engine. Have you ever seen one out of an NSX? Its huge, it makes the J look like a 4 cylinder. Its also a heavy bitch.



Secondly, the C32 makes 290hp in stock form and puts down ~240-250 at the wheels. Bolt ons get you that on the J series. Stroke the motor and you'll make more at the wheels then the C series does at the crank. Sure, you can mod the C series, but that comes at a high cost compared to the J.

Then you need to look into wiring, to which I say, good luck.

Ken1997TL

I've owned two cars with C series motors. They share virtually nothing with the NSX's 'C' motor. Transmissions won't bolt up, at all.

A complete pipe dream, it won't fit in a CL. There, I said it.

Ken1997TL

They won't fit. Legend owners tried years ago.

civicdrivr

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This.

While the cars share engine series, the NSX motors are completely different.

Ken1997TL

Yeah, they really should have been called a different letter. The only two things the two 'families' share are six cylinders and a 90 degree angle.

dbramaged

That's the information I was looking for... A complete "no" why it would not work beyond $$$ figures. Thanks.

CH46ESeaKnight

While I don't dispute what you guys are saying about the C motor not fitting (Cause I don't really know other then what I read an hour ago about the C series. The only thing I knew about the NSX 'C" motor before was that it had titanium rods and 90*) I find it kinda funny or ironic that some people (Not you guys inparticular) will say "yes absolutly" that you can fit a FWD or make a RWD CLS fit a Chevy LS1 or LS4. But hell no to a Acura V6! Just funny to me. Like I said I'm not saying you guys are wrong cause you clearly know more about these engines then I do.

On second thought I should consider the source of the people that say yes to a LS1 swap! lol

But I think Civic reasoned it out pretty well as far as the J motor being just as capable as the C for the money. I think the C32B just has the appeal cause its considered exotic or rare.(and a 8 to 9K rpm range) Kinda like I'd rather have a LS6 over a LS1 or LS2 for the technology that was put into the LS6 vs the larger less refined LS2 even though they have about the same power and the LS2 has a flater TQ curve.

I can think of a few vehicles I'd like to have a C32B in!

OperationDarkie

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With enough money, you can make it work, but will it be worth it though? that is the true question.

CH46ESeaKnight

Sure, with enough money I can make my CLS the next NASA Space Shuttle replacment to ferry people and cargo to and from the ISS! All while keeping the stock J32! If I had enough money.

p.diddy

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for 4k it would just be easier to go 3.6 route. i think its the novelty of saying you have an nsx motor in your car.

Ken1997TL

Hey I've seen a Legend engine shoved into a 5th generation Civic sedan and made RWD using a Porsche transaxle. Of course, the trunk had less room and everything had to be custom fabricated.

StreetKA

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im just to lazy to comment this... how many threads like this we gonna have to see on this site ? please grow up and wake up this is not a dream thats reality

civicdrivr

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That was a blue 4 door wasnt it? I remember seeing that years ago.

CH46ESeaKnight

I agree with you, however I do think his question was much more valid asking if one Honda V6 could be swapped with another, instead of the 16 year old telling us how he is going to swap in a AWD drivetrain from a Bugatti! I don't think his question was that out of line. He was just asking if it could be done within reason.

dbramaged

Thanks for all the thoughts/comments. I went to the guys house with the wrecked NSX just to get some measurements to knock out all possibilities. Based on what I could measure, the engine would have to tilted in a way that he oil pump may not work correctly or 100%, in order to clear the stock CL hood. Also, the way the exhaust would have to be ran was another concern.

So happens, another guy showed up in a '08 Accord haggling the price so he could swap it into his accord... But I think this guy had way more money than myself. He said that the under frame and strut bars have to transferred to the accord to make it work in his car "as he knows a few other guys with the swap" but knew it wouldn't fit my car due to clearance issues. Supposedly the '08 accords have more room under the hood than the CLs.

It was the C30 BTW as I mentioned in an earlier post.

civicdrivr

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LIPPSTUH

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man just do it, it'll fit....

p.diddy

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lol.

brian6speed

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There is a thread on nsxprime I remember reading with nsx owners talking about the idea of swapping the j32 in the nsx. It was an interesting read.

civicdrivr

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Quite a few people have thought about it. Someone swapped a K24 into one.

The J gives you more bang for the buck compared to the C.