Caddyİ

I've been checking on ROTORS for the last week and finally got some KVRs ( Cadmium Plated ) for the Front. Trying to find a little better price than Tim's I did a little research and found a Guy who will SELL us Brembo Rotors for 115.00 for Front Set, 115.00 For Rear Set for Our Acura IF We can get 10 Buyers.

Let me know if your interested and I'll be the point person on this.

Caddyİ

Brembo Rotors $ 115.00 for Front
$ 115.00 for Rear

soopa

damn. not a bad deal!

if it wasnt for the fucking wheel im prolly gonna have to buy id be in!!! fuck.


what about calipers, have ya found us any calipers? i hate our ugly shits.

Caddyİ

Yea From the BRAKEMAN !

But I haven't heard whether or not he has a APP for Our Cars. I'm sure it'd be expensive.

I'll follow up.

JZ

Last time I called Brembo a couple of months ago they said they did not have a rotor for our car but they were working on something. Are we sure that this is the correct item?

AVI8TIR

Put me on the list for fronts only.

ch1276

Put me on the list for front and rear.....i'm in for both

autophile1

will these fit with the stock Type S wheels?

Bryan

Caddyİ

Yes

NOLACLS

Can you still use the stock break calipers and pads???

Are we sure these are for the CL-S???

115 is that for the set or each???

99CL

Hey guys, do you think he has it for the 99 3.0 CL? I want a front set. let me know plz...thanks

my2sense

is that $115 shipped?

my2sense

also, is the rotor size the exact same as stock?

Caddyİ

Soon as I know: you'll know

Caddyİ

Correct: Exact Same Size as Stock

Caddyİ

Don't go Crazy on me here. Seller is in California, so Shippings going to VARY for all of you I'm sure. Closer the better.

NOLACLS

is it 115 for both fronts and 115 for both backs..so 230 + shipping?

Caddyİ

Yes !

I don't believe I've seen anyone that can even Remotly touch that Deal.

Caddyİ

He has the Rotors to fit your Car !

Caddyİ

He can do the Cadmium Plating if you want: Just add $ 12 Per Set. So $127.00 for Front, or $ 127.00 for Rears if you want Cadmium Plating on the Rotors.

Completely up to you if you want to go that route. Just be aware that Cadimum WILL wear off with in a few weeks were the Rotor Contacts the Surface. Areas where there is NO contact will last long time.

Just an FYI

Rescuer

i'm in for front and rear sets

Caddyİ

Got you TypeSDragoon

NSXNEXT

iTrader: (2)

Does the 99 TLP have the same size rotors as the CLS/CLP?


So they're gonna rust just like the stock rotors?

NOLACLS

Ok so let me get this straight...cuz moma always told me if its too good to be true it probably is

So these rotors are 230 + shipping...they are the same size as the stock rotors so they will just slip right on with NO modification and you can use the same stock calipers and pads...and they will not warp (since they are x drilled and sloted) and stop better than stock ones?

Questions:

What is the advantage of having them Cadimum plated if it wears off in a few weeks??

Can you turn X drilled and sloted rotors...or once they warp (if they do) they are trash??

Once the brake pads wear down....do you have to turn the rotors before you put on new pads??

Will they wear out the stock brake pads faster than the stock rotor??

What is the price if it is not through this group buy...like if I let some of you others get them and try them out for a bit :P??

And they are made by Brembo...like the company that makes the big brake kit??

Thanks for the info!!

moomaster_99

I'm in for the front. However, only if these are the stock sized ones.

NOLACLS

I just called Brembo (got the 800 number off the sight) and the guy told me that they did not have a X drilled/sloted rotor for the CL-S??? He did say that they had them for the 97 cl...are these for the 01 cl-s or the 3.0/2.2 cl???


Did you talk to someone at brembo Cady??? If so who was it???

cnatra

I might be interested BUT I'd like more details.

my2sense

and nolacls' questions answered

99CL

Count me IN for the front set!!

I Know brembo doesn't make cross drilled for some cars. but the company itself has another company that will do it with a machine, so it will be fine. Well, at least that's what i heard.

Caddyİ

No
That's a good point about Cadmium Coat. Places where its coated will remain Sharp. Where the PADs Contact the Rotor, ANY ROTOR Will RUST in Time if left in moisture. Soon as it's Driven and you Break, Rust is Gone.

Caddyİ

NOLACLS

I really didn't Go looking for this Deal. He's NOT a Personal Friend, but he has a SMALL yet "thriving" business. He's Sold On Ebay and 35+ Positives with NO Negatives leads me to believe he's LEGIT and Honest. You'll have to make those decisions yourself. I've Talked to him about these issues as well and would like to get his PRODUCT on my own car before I can feel any FULL Comfort about you guys. So take that for what it is. I understand your concerns.

Caddyİ

NOLACLS

I think that's a GREAT Question, and I sent my GUY your Response! I told him that before I go ANY FURTHER, I want To Call BREMBO myself and AFTER THAT's DONE, and verified, Get a Set on my CAR. I don't want to be MADE OUT TO BE THE FOOL anymore than you guys want to be "TAKEN"

We ALL need STRAIGHT up Answers and REAL ROTORS to Prove things are what they say they are.

I'll keep you posted.

Caddyİ

Yes, This is my understading so far as well. Here's an informational Piece about HIS ROTORS"

ROTORS ARE NEW AND ORIGNAL DESIGN. THESE ARE BLANK BREMBO CASTING AND WE MACHINED THE ROTORS HERE IN AMERICA CROSSDRILLED AND SLOTTED. MAKE NO MISTAKE THESE ROTORS ARE NOT JUST FOR LOOKS THE SLOT DESIGN ARE FOR KEEPING THE BRAKE DUST OFF THE ROTORS AND THE DRILLED ARE FOR KEEPING THE BRAKE ROTORS COOL. THE PICTURE YOU ARE LOOKING AT ARE THE ACTUAL ROTORS FOR YOUR CAR. UNLIKE OTHER PEOPLE WE SHOW YOU WHAT YOUR ROTORS LOOKS LIKE BEFORE YOU PAY FOR THEM. SINCE WE ARE MANUFACTURER FOR ROTORS WE CAN OFFER SLOT ONLY ROTORS, DRILLED ONLY ROTORS OR COMBINATION SLOT AND DRILLED FOR JUST ABOUT ANY CAR. ALSO THE WARRANTY I OFFER IS IF THEIR BAD I WILL TAKE THEM BACK SINCE THEY ARE WEAR AND TEAR ITEM WE DO NOT OFFER LONG TERM WARRANTY.

Hope that Helps

EricL

1. So, are you saying that Brembo just makes the "blanks" (as in they are not approved or sold by Brembo for the 2001-2003 CLS), BUT they have some kind of "generic" blanks that they do sell to jobbers who are free to sell them as "value added items" (they x-drill/slot/etc and they are responsible for any and all issues).

2. I have called the engineers at Brembo and they assured me that the CLS rotors are in the works, but wont be available for about 6-months. I called again to check/verify that information/story. I also called a vendor that supplies Brembo and some other rotors and they told me the same thing Brembo did. In fact, they called me back (and emailed me) that they COULD NOT GET the Brembo pieces (they had part #s, but they were not available YET).


3. I wish someone would figure out the exact details (one of the members said another member had a problem with these guys and I even received a PM on the TL board (before the no PM for no-payers policy) about their getting 11.2" disks in lieu of 11.8" disks. The question was, "can I still use them", and I answered NO! (Perhaps I’ve confused this guy with someone else – yes/no?)

Finally, I have an obvious question: If these come from Brembo, and there is only some "machining" required to "finish them" off, why is Brembo waiting 6-months to complete their tests and work to sell them????

AS far as the warranty goes -- what I'm hearing is, "If their bad" i.e they don't fit, etc, "we'll take them back". If a warp or other problem happens after some time (wear and tear is a fuzzy term) they will take a pass on supplying replacements.

Caddy, more options are better than less options, but isn't this a "pig in a poke" if there isn't a "track record" of performance WITH OUR CARS OR SIMILAR CARS?????

Caddyİ

Valid Questions EricL

I think We need to proceed with caution given all these details. Like I stated from the start, I didn't go out looking for this deal; it just sort of "evolved" with a Question. Namely, that if I get a couple more buyers, I'd get "Free Shipping." Discussions turned to 10+buyers with price breaks to members as well as my own price break for getting the deal together. Free Enterprise system works well sometimes; but as one member already stated the obvious ole adage, "if it sounds to good to be true......."


I dont' mind being the "guinea pig" in this matter" however, given that the Rotors are Fairly "CHEAP" at least as far as Price goes, and hopefully NOT in Quality.

ROTORS are ROTORs pretty much unless we are talking HIGH TECH STUFF like "The BRAKEMAN" If they are made of Good High Quality Steal and the ROTORS are CUT & MACHINED Properly, I have more than a moderate amount of confindence that things will be ok.

I'm willing to get a Pair from this guy for my REAR Rotor Replacements for testing & Comparision.

What I can tell you: The Questions I GET From you guys, I SEND TO The Seller. I put it to him Straight. ANSWER THIS Question I tell him because I value the Members of the FORUM, NOT only do I want their trust and respect, I want to know that a Good Quality Item can be had for myself as well as the rest of you guys.

Will keep you all Posted !

NOLACLS

Very Good Caddy...that way we become well informed of the actual product he is selling. Thanks for posting all this and thanks for the concern of the members

When I called Brembo I got the same info as Eric about them making a set for our car. I hope that these, that you have found, will work out for the fact that they are so cheap.

Keep up the good work and lets get to the bottom of this.

EricL

Yes, to some degree, I think you're right. As I said, the more options the better. (The rotors are generally cast iron, not steel [If I’m wrong, please let me know])

There is some "banter” as to the KVRs being lighter than the stock/OEM rotors. I'm pretty sure that there is some "art" to heat treatments, metal properties, and other issues that would effect warping. To date, I do know a member that has had great luck with slotted rotors and Carbon-Kevlar pads. Just adding the slots to wipe AND reduce the boundary layer gasses from between the pad and rotor (outgassing) is going to help/assist the transfer of heat away from the disk.

There are subtle details to the construction of the internal venting that can have a large impact on cooling. A look at the Wilwoods with their curved internal venting can prove interesting. However, I'm not sure that a stock CLS without a brake duct kit added (it has been done) would make for night-and-day differences in single stop performance.

One "non-brake" issue that starts becoming a bit "weenie-ish" concerns the "weight" of the rotors. I believe that a number of folks have reported that the KVRs felt lighter than the OEMS.

As with all of this, I would welcome a test trial by someone (perhaps yourself) of these parts. It would be useful to weigh the parts to see if some added benefit in the unsprung weight/rotational inertia department was an added bonus (as reported for the KVRs [true or not, I haven't seen the amount of weight loss qualified and verified].

So, if for no other reason, it might be nice to "gather-up" the data of the respective "options" (if you proceed) and allow for MORE options, which is a GREAT thing.

Please let us know what info you come up with. AS I said, we definitely need MORE sources...

THANKS for checking in to this...


Links: http://www.braketech.com/btsuper.html

http://htm29.ms.ornl.gov/rsuc/rotor.html

Caddyİ

Interesting sites you've got there.

Yes, I stand corrected: Cast Iron, NOT Steel.

I'm going on Vacation SUNDAY, so I'll be out of the EMAIL / WEB Loop for a week, but when I get back I should have my KVRs. Soon as I talk with my seller for these ROTORS, I'll try to get them ordered as soon as possible.

I can weigh them, but I don't have anything at the house other than the ms's bathroom scales : )

I can compair the 2 wts and take them both to a BRAKE Shop for them to look at, but I'm not sure I want to get into some sort of METALLURGY TEST "THING". I wouldn't know where to begin that whole thing.
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Rescuer

now, I autoX in my car, which means accelerate very fast, and brake hard in short distances with a heavy car. how will these rotors hold on on things like that?

typeR

caddy ...not to trow a monkey wrench into this but it would be the front set that would be most telling...ErikL mike B at comptech told me that the rotors they sell which i believe are KVR are OEM blanks and would not be reduced in weight to any large degree,only the loss of mass due to x drilling...not sure if thats true either just thats what mike said...i have to believe that maybe people were getting the 11.1 rotor from the accord mistakenly