it sounds to me like the TL-S is much better than our car. Ex- mirrors are smaller, stearing is tighter and handels better, rims are more scratch proof, fog lights are "real"ect ect ect.... Im pissed!!!!!!! It better not be faster than our cars too, or i'll just fall over dead right now!!!

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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, and AEM CAI
I've got one of CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot

 

Its ok man, its still a 4 door ;-)



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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
Comptech Springs
Apexi V-AFC
AEM CAI

 

I love it except I wish it came in a 2-Door version.
Oh….That’s right, I already have one.

NOPE not jealous one bit.
No need for a 4-door.
I have my car for 9-months now and have only used the back seat like twice.

And the color selection is worse then the CL-S.
You can't even get an "S" in RED.

Shawn S


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Speed limits are for CARS and DRIVERS whose limits are easily exceeded !!!!!

2001 CL Type S - NAV - San Marino RED / Parchment - Spoiler - 35% Tint - Roof Visor - PIAA Lamps
GOLD Emblems & Grill - V1 w/remote - KICKER ZR-360 w/(2) 10" Alumapro Subs - Shine by ZAINO
For Pictures see: PAGE 1 PAGE 2 PAGE 3 PAGE 4 V1 & SUBS

 

Still, u know what i mean!

 

^^^ Shawn says it all.

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01 CL-S NightHawk Black/Ebony Bowling Ball Interior

 

Well, I'll find out on Saturday. If the steering really is tighter (like BMW tight), your damn right I'll be mad. I can't stand the floaty, loose steering in my CL-S when cruising around 40-50 in the city.

Of course, I'm just an OCD who thinks that true happiness lies in getting a new car every twelve months!

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a study in pimp daddy gold

 

personally i like the look of our cars much more.

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
35% Tint All Around
Black Wood Dash Kit
Currently on TL rims with Nokian Winter Tires
My Bitch

 

plus do you really need 4 doors?

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
35% Tint All Around
Black Wood Dash Kit
Currently on TL rims with Nokian Winter Tires
My Bitch

 

i really feel our cl-s exterior mirrors are too big and not tinted..really want to get the tl-s mirror..can that fit?

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2001 Acura Red CL Type S.
1997 Honda Civic EX.
!!!! VTEC Power !!!!
Powered by HONDA
Powered by MUGEN

typescl@yahoo.com

 

look at it this way... how many TL's do you see out there on the street... IMO, way TOO many... Personally, i like having a car that is somewhat unique.. You see Bimmers, Mercedes, Honda's , TL's, Lexus's everywhere! But not that many Cl-S at all.. And thats what's special... Why does it make heads turn? because people haven't seen it before.. Granted, there will be more as time passes, but I doubt it will ever get close to the # of TL's/TLS' out there.... so i feel special ! you should too... we have a great car !

OH, also, of course there is always going to be improvements made for our car and the TL-S that makes them somewhat "better"... but thats how technology works.. its time-dependent... so unless you're thinking of trading in your car every year to keep up with the little changes, I would just be happy with what we have )


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2001 3.2 CL-Type S Black/Ebony, Winter Package, Spoiler, 35% Tint, Polarg M6 Lamps
Ahhh, I'm in love!

[This message has been edited by CarBoi2 (edited 03-15-2001).]

 

The Acura's get better. I don't see the problem?

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Eat Safe, Use Condiments
red CL-S, non-Nav

 

Do you think the the TL-S stering system can be put into our CL-S ? Same frame and mounts I would think?

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Silver S
NOW IN THE SHOP AFTER ACCIDENT

 

okay, the mirrors are an obvious improvement, and I suspect they'll be on the 2002+ cl and cl-s...

but where is this "better steering" and "better handling" nonsense coming from? it's the same basic car with the same basic running gear but with two more doors...

as far as scratch proof rims are concerned, they're *narrower* than ours, so of course they'll get scratched less. dropping the rim width has that effect...

 

Dude... get over it.

First off... I don't think they actually got the Torque steerin... look at all the window stickers people have posted... they all say "Speed sensitive steering" JUST LIKE US.

Second... you had your car more then a year before this ugly boat of a sedan came out.

Third... sure... the rims dont buldge as much... but it makes them look smaller... and not only do they look smaller... BUT they are ONLY 6.5" wide... the same width as CL-P wheels.

The mirrors.... SO WHAT? So go to your Ac dealer... go to the parts department... and buy two TL-S mirrors for your CL. Big deal.

Be happy you don't have that ugly ass oversized Civic grill.

Be happy you don't have headlights that look like their about to cry.


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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^AMEN MAH BROTHER



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Astroboy out...
2001 Acura CL Type S: Comptech: Headers, filter, sways, springs, koni shocks, goodridge braided brake lines, full kicker system
1996 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo: H&R Springs and sways, Bilstein shocks

 

Tank, have you even seen the TL-S yet? Besides the width differential (which I don't believe until I see a measurement myself), there is a significant, physical difference in the arch height of each spoke. I push pixels all day and consider myself an expert on minute details, but will be taking measurements this Saturday when I perform a test drive and thorough inspection.

As far as the steering goes, my associate, a gentleman who handles the CL-S on a daily basis via customer test drives, has stated that he feels a significant tightening and reduction of steering boost between the CL-S and TL-S. Again, I'll confirm on my test drive.

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a study in pimp daddy gold

 

Droid, you can confirm the width differential by 2 of the following ways:

Go to the TL-S section of Acura.com website... go to features/handling and you will see they state the wheels are 6.5" wide.

Or... go take a look at either of the 3 photos of window stickers that have been posted here. They all say 17x6.5

You can also check out the tire size.

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

 

Hey Soop,
Have any nice sweaters to wear lately?


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The #1 Corolla errr I mean IS300 Killer.

 

as soopa pointed out, no need to spend a lot of time analyzing the details of the photos - check the window sticker or the website for wheel witdh... I agree the wheels look similar, but they're most definitely not the same.

since the sticker on the tl-s simply states "speed-sensitive" power steering, as the sticker on my cl-s did, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say there is very little changed between the two models, and, accordingly, any difference in handling will be subjective, minor, and easily accounted for by normal deviations in the manufacturing process.

your friend may be right, but you may feel differently once you have a stint behind the wheel.

 

Hold up. I just looked at a TL-S last night, and they looked like the same exact rims we have, complete with that little bulge at the end....I don't see what the big deal is....

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PimpDaddy Gold, Deep Tint, BAAAAAD Attitude

 

I saw them in person too and they look the same. But I didn't break out a friggen ruler like some people are doing. They are still going to scratch in the same spot as our rims, so what is the big deal?

 

don't you think our CLS look more classy? yes, originally I was looking for 4 door luxury sports car, but i fell in love with CLS... to me TL looks too anonymous, no personality, from certain angle, it is too much like a camry.

in addition, stock TLS shouldn't be faster than stock CLS, since TLS is heavier.

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2001 Stock Black/Black CL Type S
since 11/29/00
Scrached three rims.

 

I agree with most people's answers here.. so what... I just bought my car 2+ weeks ago, and I bought it cuz I like the look, the feel , and the ohhhs and ahhhs don't hurt either. I still laff every time i think of a Type S 4-door. Is this car meant for the family guy/gal that just wants a life makeover or what?!?! I like the sportiness of the 2 door type S. If you are so focused on the mirrors, try driving another vehicle for 2-3 weeks. Then come back to your CL.. I bet you will forget all about that what was it again?!?! oh yeah the mirrors...

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2001 CL Type S w/ NAV & Spoiler. San Marino Red/Parchment int. Purchased 2/28/01.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1584587&a=12058921

 

It's a 4 door car. NEVER heard of a 4 door sports car ! They are Family cars ! GET IT ! Stop trying to put 10 lbs. of shit in a 5 pound bag ! 4 DOOR CARS ARE NOT SPORTS CARS OR SPORTY !!!! PERIOD ! END OF STORY ! And stop being PARINODE !

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2001 CL Type S Black/Ebony w/NAVI, PIAA bulbs, Tinted windows, JL Sub-woofer/Fosgate 250 watt amp, otherwise pure stock
1998 Accord Coupe EX-V6
Black Currant Pearl, PIAA bulbs, tinted windows, Fosgate 500 watt amp, Eclipes 6X9's,JL Sub-woofer, otherwise PURE stock !

 

...THE black and white brocheur on our car say 6.5in wide rim could be mistake there too????



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'01 3.2 CL typeS
satin silver metalic
Llumar platinum plus
tint 20% all around

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'98 ACCORD V-6 sedan
16" coupe wheels
215/55/16 nitto's
20% smoke titanium
black chrome kit

 

I dunno...the BMW M5 or the Mercedes AMG E55 are damn sporty 4 doors...as will the 4 door BMW M3....



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Astroboy out...
2001 Acura CL Type S: Comptech: Headers, filter, sways, springs, koni shocks, goodridge braided brake lines, full kicker system
1996 Porsche 911 Twin Turbo: H&R Springs and sways, Bilstein shocks

 

better lock the thread, astroboy... there's obviously no such thing as a 4 door sports car.

 

Yeah, no doubt, tank. The Audi S4 and RS4 wagon must be a couple of illusions as well.

The stock CL-S is no sports car itself, Fab.



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a study in pimp daddy gold

 

TL-S 4 door weighs the same as the CL-S 2 door. A little help from the lighter 6.5" wheels.

The steering is different. The CS-S has speed sensitive steering while the TL-S has torque sensitive steering.

CL-S has a 6 speaker bose system. TL-S has a 5 speaker bose system but one being a 9" subwoofer.

TL-S *important* lit change holder.

TL-S :No major scheduled tune-up for 105,000 miles: LOL.

 

according to the sticker, the tl-s has speed sensitive steering as well. not sure what acura intended torque sensitive steering to mean...

 

I realize it was SUPPOSED to have Torque Sensitive Steering.... BUT...

I havent found ANYTHING saying it actually does...

All I can find are pre-release rumors.

All the window stickers... brochures... and the website state Speed Sensitive.

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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
San Marino Red (Navigation)
PIAA 19173 Ion Yellow Fog Lights
Aftermarket Black Wood Trim Kit

 

Check out the spread on the TL-S that caranddriver did. It did mention Torque-sensitive steering...

dee

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PimpDaddy Gold, Deep Tint, BAAAAAD Attitude

 

Who gives a monkeys uncles rats ass???? Get over it. One is a 2 door (sporty sports car) and an other is a 4 door (sporty sedan), period.

As for the comment before about saving weight by going with the 6.5" rim vs the 7" rim, I don't know. Your probably saving, at best, 2lbs.

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'98 Dakar Yellow ///M3
www.BMWExperience.com

'02 TL-S Soon!

 

Are you sure there's a difference in the steering? Maybe the sedan has larger sway bars. I know my old 4 door teg had larger sway bars than the coupe and handled better.


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Silver CL type S, upgraded cupholder, PIAA-19169, 3 coats Zaino and a pinch of salt

No Navi cause no matter where I go, there I am