Alphawerks Headers
10-20-2004, 06:51 PM
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Alphawerks Headers
An FYI
Just checked out the Alphawerks site, the CL SS headers are going for $750 now.......pretty good jump from 280 --> 750.
http://www.alphawerks.com/alpha_interface_headers.htm
Just checked out the Alphawerks site, the CL SS headers are going for $750 now.......pretty good jump from 280 --> 750.
http://www.alphawerks.com/alpha_interface_headers.htm
10-20-2004, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Hobo
wasnt there an intermediate jump to ~400 
still cheaper than the comptechs.
welcome to capitalism
still cheaper than the comptechs.
welcome to capitalism
10-20-2004, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by JaredGMS
Caitalism would suggest that they charge a bit more than they cost the AW to build....they stole CT's design, made the header for ~$75-$100, and now sell it on CT's design for $750. That's not capitalism, that's piracy.
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10-20-2004, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 3.2cl-s
Thats not piracy, thats comptech not have strategic sustainability, when someone makes something superior, the easiest thing to do is to copy....nothing illegal there.
10-20-2004, 09:10 PM
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[QUOTE=JaredGMS]An FYI
Just checked out the Alphawerks site, the CL SS headers are going for $750 now.......pretty good jump from 280 --> 750.
http://www.alphawerks.com/alpha_interface_headers.htm
Why do you go and write that ? Why are you mad that a header came out just as good as comptect? If you are so cheap, go and buy obx! I think you should not be bad mouthing alphawerks because they higher there prices. And how do you know if they didnt do there own r&d!
And what makes you think that the headers cost so cheap?
Have you ever thought how much money comptech is making off of each header?
I know it has to cost money to dyno products.
Just checked out the Alphawerks site, the CL SS headers are going for $750 now.......pretty good jump from 280 --> 750.
http://www.alphawerks.com/alpha_interface_headers.htm
Why do you go and write that ? Why are you mad that a header came out just as good as comptect? If you are so cheap, go and buy obx! I think you should not be bad mouthing alphawerks because they higher there prices. And how do you know if they didnt do there own r&d!
And what makes you think that the headers cost so cheap?
Have you ever thought how much money comptech is making off of each header?
I know it has to cost money to dyno products.
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10-20-2004, 09:12 PM
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Unless something recent has come out... maybe the certification would justify the price increase.
Oh and the AW headers are a direct Comptech copy just like OBX and Stone. They did not do their own R&D like someone suggested.
10-20-2004, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Linner
its so its able to pass emmisions, correct me if im wrong
no it is just certified to pass emmisions and it has the marking on it. Other headers will pass just the same. Basically all you need is your O2 sensor to be working properly to pass - for the most part.
So any header with the O2 sensor "hole" will do the job fine. Its just that some strict states...Cali, Tx... will give you crap if they dont see the "carb certified". Just tell them to hook up your car anyway and it will be fine.
I had to do this with my old Chevy truck, I had headers, new intake manifold and air intake. I still passed Tx emmisions.
10-20-2004, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ou sig
no it is just certified to pass emmisions and it has the marking on it. Other headers will pass just the same. Basically all you need is your O2 sensor to be working properly to pass - for the most part.
So any header with the O2 sensor "hole" will do the job fine. Its just that some strict states...Cali, Tx... will give you crap if they dont see the "carb certified". Just tell them to hook up your car anyway and it will be fine.
I had to do this with my old Chevy truck, I had headers, new intake manifold and air intake. I still passed Tx emmisions.
So any header with the O2 sensor "hole" will do the job fine. Its just that some strict states...Cali, Tx... will give you crap if they dont see the "carb certified". Just tell them to hook up your car anyway and it will be fine.
I had to do this with my old Chevy truck, I had headers, new intake manifold and air intake. I still passed Tx emmisions.
And you won't pass without having CARB certified parts in Cali. I've read of people haveing certified parts and being hassled.
Cali = douche bag state when it comes to teh modifing.
10-20-2004, 10:13 PM
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[QUOTE=furious]
JaredGMD has the full right to be posting this thread. He's not complaining about something taht's not logical (like yourself), he's just spreading the fact that AW headers went up 500 bucks. Which is a pretty big jump IMO . I'm happy I jumped on them when they first came out and were running for 300. So far they show worthy increases and I'm having a dyno tomorrow and a new y-pipe next week.
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An FYI
Why do you go and write that ? Why are you mad that a header came out just as good as comptect? If you are so cheap, go and buy obx! I think you should not be bad mouthing alphawerks because they higher there prices. And how do you know if they didnt do there own r&d!
And what makes you think that the headers cost so cheap?
Have you ever thought how much money comptech is making off of each header?
I know it has to cost money to dyno products. Oh yea did I mention that I'm a whiney little bitch.
Why do you go and write that ? Why are you mad that a header came out just as good as comptect? If you are so cheap, go and buy obx! I think you should not be bad mouthing alphawerks because they higher there prices. And how do you know if they didnt do there own r&d!
And what makes you think that the headers cost so cheap?
Have you ever thought how much money comptech is making off of each header?
I know it has to cost money to dyno products. Oh yea did I mention that I'm a whiney little bitch.
. I'm happy I jumped on them when they first came out and were running for 300. So far they show worthy increases and I'm having a dyno tomorrow and a new y-pipe next week.
10-20-2004, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mclarenf3387
CARB is the California Air Review Board or some shit like that.
And you won't pass without having CARB certified parts in Cali. I've read of people haveing certified parts and being hassled.
Cali = douche bag state when it comes to teh modifing.
And you won't pass without having CARB certified parts in Cali. I've read of people haveing certified parts and being hassled.
Cali = douche bag state when it comes to teh modifing.
10-20-2004, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ou sig
no it is just certified to pass emmisions and it has the marking on it. Other headers will pass just the same. Basically all you need is your O2 sensor to be working properly to pass - for the most part.
So any header with the O2 sensor "hole" will do the job fine. Its just that some strict states...Cali, Tx... will give you crap if they dont see the "carb certified". Just tell them to hook up your car anyway and it will be fine.
I had to do this with my old Chevy truck, I had headers, new intake manifold and air intake. I still passed Tx emmisions.
So any header with the O2 sensor "hole" will do the job fine. Its just that some strict states...Cali, Tx... will give you crap if they dont see the "carb certified". Just tell them to hook up your car anyway and it will be fine.
I had to do this with my old Chevy truck, I had headers, new intake manifold and air intake. I still passed Tx emmisions.
Wrong, sorry. During an emissions inspection in California they perform a visual inspection under the hood. If they notice an intake, headers, etc. without a C.A.R.B sticker or badge you will fail the inspection regardless of what your emissions readings were. If you fail hte visual inspection they might not even run the exhaust emissions test. C.A.R.B. certification is very important for modifications to have if they are marketed in California
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Originally Posted by Allout
You're close. California Air Resources Board (CARB). If it doesn't pass the Visual inspection, you're screwed. Must have CARB certifications on modified parts in CA. Even the Comptech Icebox has a CARB certification. Without it, you would fail your smog test regardless of what comes out of the tail pipe.
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10-20-2004, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by furious
Why do you go and write that ? Why are you mad that a header came out just as good as comptect? If you are so cheap, go and buy obx! I think you should not be bad mouthing alphawerks because they higher there prices. And how do you know if they didnt do there own r&d!
And what makes you think that the headers cost so cheap?
Have you ever thought how much money comptech is making off of each header?
I know it has to cost money to dyno products.
You're telling me that they did their own R&D to make a header set and it turns out to look EXACTLY like CT's? You're as bright as a wet fart.
They headers cannot cost more than ~$100-$120 dollars for them to make, and chargind $750 is like credit card companies charging 25% interest......not criminal, but prolly should be.
10-20-2004, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Wrong, sorry. During an emissions inspection in California they perform a visual inspection under the hood. If they notice an intake, headers, etc. without a C.A.R.B sticker or badge you will fail the inspection regardless of what your emissions readings were. If you fail hte visual inspection they might not even run the exhaust emissions test. C.A.R.B. certification is very important for modifications to have if they are marketed in California
OK OK OK, all I was saying is the CARB certification doesnt have anything to do with the physical workings of the part - you will pass the smog test - as long as you can get hooked up. I know California is crazy strict.
10-21-2004, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JaredGMS
......not criminal, but prolly should be.
And that is still one holy hell of a price jump.
Although I'm still very happy with my OBX's two years later.
10-21-2004, 10:41 AM
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fuck it, if i had to do it again i would get the obx again for 350.`
10-21-2004, 10:55 AM
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Hey i found a site that sell them for 475 http://www.wheelsnext.com/view.phtml...awerks+Headers
10-21-2004, 11:06 AM
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Who cares what they charge? If the product is worth $750 then customers will buy it. If not, then they'll have to lower the price to move their inventory. That's pretty simple business logic.
10-21-2004, 03:20 PM
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ordered mine from wheelnext.com today, i'm not waitign to they boost the price there
It probably will be in the range of $450-$500 shipped.
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10-21-2004, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Allout
...If it doesn't pass the Visual inspection, you're screwed. Must have CARB certifications on modified parts in CA. Even the Comptech Icebox has a CARB certification. Without it, you would fail your smog test regardless of what comes out of the tail pipe.
FYI...if you have any problems passing visual, go to Chinatown.
10-23-2004, 12:46 PM
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Just so you know, Wheelsnext and Alpha Werks are the same company. Alpha Werks is just a division of Wheelsnext.
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10-23-2004, 03:46 PM
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i just ordered mine today from www.speedstash.com I got them for 475 shipped. not to bad.
I should get them within a few days I hope.
I should get them within a few days I hope.
10-23-2004, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by italiaCLs
i just ordered mine today from www.speedstash.com I got them for 475 shipped. not to bad.
I should get them within a few days I hope.
I should get them within a few days I hope.
Speed stash just took your money because they dont have it!
Its been like 3 weeks since they ran out.
So get you money back.
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