AEM CAI, soon to have COMPTECH HEADERS... but do I need.....?
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AEM CAI, soon to have COMPTECH HEADERS... but do I need.....?
Ok guys, get you minds working for me....
the CAI gives a few horses...
the Headers one purchesed/installed on car will give me anywhere from 30-60 horses...
an exhaust will give me 1 or 2 horses...
I'm figuring together the CAI and Headers will give me roughly a 50 marke in HP... would the exhaust(axle back) do anything?
Do you guys think the exhaust is worth it...?
the CAI gives a few horses...
the Headers one purchesed/installed on car will give me anywhere from 30-60 horses...
an exhaust will give me 1 or 2 horses...
I'm figuring together the CAI and Headers will give me roughly a 50 marke in HP... would the exhaust(axle back) do anything?
Do you guys think the exhaust is worth it...?
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Originally posted by Casper98CL:
<STRONG>Ok guys, get you minds working for me....
the CAI gives a few horses...
the Headers one purchesed/installed on car will give me anywhere from 30-60 horses...
an exhaust will give me 1 or 2 horses...
I'm figuring together the CAI and Headers will give me roughly a 50 marke in HP... would the exhaust(axle back) do anything?
Do you guys think the exhaust is worth it...?</STRONG>
<STRONG>Ok guys, get you minds working for me....
the CAI gives a few horses...
the Headers one purchesed/installed on car will give me anywhere from 30-60 horses...
an exhaust will give me 1 or 2 horses...
I'm figuring together the CAI and Headers will give me roughly a 50 marke in HP... would the exhaust(axle back) do anything?
Do you guys think the exhaust is worth it...?
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If you lucky you may get about 300 - 305 HP at the crank with the AEM CAI and headers. This is based on the best dynos ever shown here and figuring a 20% loss from crank to front wheels.
You will only get a "real kick" from the headers from 5000- to 7000-rpm.
The exhaust gives you 2HP -- if your going to race for pink slips (or something similar) every HP counts, but that is a lot of $$$ for the HP.
The CL Type-S already has a good exhaust; it is just the stock exhaust manifold that stinks (there are some nasty right turns and other problems that mess with good air flow).
You will only get a "real kick" from the headers from 5000- to 7000-rpm.
The exhaust gives you 2HP -- if your going to race for pink slips (or something similar) every HP counts, but that is a lot of $$$ for the HP.
The CL Type-S already has a good exhaust; it is just the stock exhaust manifold that stinks (there are some nasty right turns and other problems that mess with good air flow).
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well, from what i undertand the comptech headers are producing about 60 for type-s acuras and about 30 for us 1st gens.... I guess ill only be able to tell a difference once i get it...
but overall, getting an exhaust to go with it is pretty pointless.. if i understand correctly...
but overall, getting an exhaust to go with it is pretty pointless.. if i understand correctly...
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Originally posted by Casper98CL:
[QB]well, from what i undertand the comptech headers are producing about 60 for type-s acuras and about 30 for us[QB]
[QB]well, from what i undertand the comptech headers are producing about 60 for type-s acuras and about 30 for us[QB]
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Originally posted by Casper98CL:
<STRONG>well, from what i undertand the comptech headers are producing about 60 for type-s acuras and about 30 for us 1st gens.... I guess ill only be able to tell a difference once i get it...
but overall, getting an exhaust to go with it is pretty pointless.. if i understand correctly...</STRONG>
<STRONG>well, from what i undertand the comptech headers are producing about 60 for type-s acuras and about 30 for us 1st gens.... I guess ill only be able to tell a difference once i get it...
but overall, getting an exhaust to go with it is pretty pointless.. if i understand correctly...</STRONG>
Hmmm... I don't think so...
You will see some folks here who have "handles" of 290HP -- these people have the Comptech headers. The 260 at the crank becomes 290HP.
If you go by the better dynos or the AEM "average" gain graph, if makes 6-10HP (perhaps more with some very cold air vs. a hot engine compartment)
So, if I add 10-15HP to the 290 (crank) HP, we are talking about 40-45 MORE HP for a CLS/TLS (for headers AND intake at the crank)...
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Originally posted by Casper98CL:
<STRONG>well, from what i undertand the comptech headers are producing about 60 for type-s ...</STRONG>
<STRONG>well, from what i undertand the comptech headers are producing about 60 for type-s ...</STRONG>
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Originally posted by EricL:
<STRONG>If you lucky you may get about 300 - 305 HP at the crank with the AEM CAI and headers. This is based on the best dynos ever shown here and figuring a 20% loss from crank to front wheels.
You will only get a "real kick" from the headers from 5000- to 7000-rpm.
The exhaust gives you 2HP -- if your going to race for pink slips (or something similar) every HP counts, but that is a lot of $$$ for the HP.
The CL Type-S already has a good exhaust; it is just the stock exhaust manifold that stinks (there are some nasty right turns and other problems that mess with good air flow).</STRONG>
<STRONG>If you lucky you may get about 300 - 305 HP at the crank with the AEM CAI and headers. This is based on the best dynos ever shown here and figuring a 20% loss from crank to front wheels.
You will only get a "real kick" from the headers from 5000- to 7000-rpm.
The exhaust gives you 2HP -- if your going to race for pink slips (or something similar) every HP counts, but that is a lot of $$$ for the HP.
The CL Type-S already has a good exhaust; it is just the stock exhaust manifold that stinks (there are some nasty right turns and other problems that mess with good air flow).</STRONG>
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You Fawkin Kiddin Me!
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Damn.. easy boys... that's why I am asking... I will check with Comptech to see what gains there are... Thanks for the insight... No i dont think that 15-25 hp is worth $1000.00 but if I can get 30 or more Im game...
Once again thanks for the knowledge... Now I gotta check with the professionals and make a decision...
Once again thanks for the knowledge... Now I gotta check with the professionals and make a decision...
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Hey Casper here is the dyno for the Accord V6.. I would expect the same gains for the 3.0L CL.. http://solar.innercite.com/comptech/header1.html
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Originally posted by e1828:
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Hey EricL.. Casper is talkin' about his '98 3.0CL not a CL-S.. so he is nowhere near 300 hp at the crank.. never said this before but I appreciate all the 'physics' items you discuss in topics.. keep it coming
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Hey EricL.. Casper is talkin' about his '98 3.0CL not a CL-S.. so he is nowhere near 300 hp at the crank.. never said this before but I appreciate all the 'physics' items you discuss in topics.. keep it coming
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"So, if I add 10-15HP to the 290 (crank) HP, we are talking about 40-45 MORE HP for a CLS/TLS (for headers AND intake at the crank)..."
No problemo… and thanks…
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