Acura Transmissions are good
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Suzuka Master
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Acura Transmissions are good
I think there is nothing wrong with Acura transsmissions, those are isolated cases that we saw here.
My transsmision is fine, and I am very happy with it.
Also, it is possible that what some people post here is not true. Maybe those are just evil Acura competitors which try to discourage people from buying Acura.
Until I read some official consumer reviews I will not belive that Acura has deffect in transsmisions. If 1 in 1000 has bad transsmission this does not mean Acura has deffect in it.
I am realy happy with my car, so fuck all of you who don't like Acura
My transsmision is fine, and I am very happy with it.
Also, it is possible that what some people post here is not true. Maybe those are just evil Acura competitors which try to discourage people from buying Acura.
Until I read some official consumer reviews I will not belive that Acura has deffect in transsmisions. If 1 in 1000 has bad transsmission this does not mean Acura has deffect in it.
I am realy happy with my car, so fuck all of you who don't like Acura
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You like Acura cause it's... good, good value, good quality, good performance.
But what if the sake of your fuck some other competitor say Infiniti35, or Lux SC IS300, or even a C32 AMG http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...50/w203c32.htm
this baby is fuking sweet.. if $55K is not a a problem
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But what if the sake of your fuck some other competitor say Infiniti35, or Lux SC IS300, or even a C32 AMG http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...50/w203c32.htm
this baby is fuking sweet.. if $55K is not a a problem
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Let me ask you this...when I had my car in for service, I had a 2001 TL with 6000 miles on it as a loaner. The transmission seemed to be real nible, crisp and not sluggish at all. When I got back into my car, I noticed that the transmission was different, almost like I wasn't sure it was in "D" when I first pulled out--the manual shifting was also not as crisp at it was in the TL. Is this just a new vs old tranny or could there be something else that I need Acura to look at?
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Just make sure you change your tranny fluid every 12~15K...
Originally posted by sundance_gold:
<STRONG>Let me ask you this...when I had my car in for service, I had a 2001 TL with 6000 miles on it as a loaner. The transmission seemed to be real nible, crisp and not sluggish at all. When I got back into my car, I noticed that the transmission was different, almost like I wasn't sure it was in "D" when I first pulled out--the manual shifting was also not as crisp at it was in the TL. Is this just a new vs old tranny or could there be something else that I need Acura to look at?</STRONG>
<STRONG>Let me ask you this...when I had my car in for service, I had a 2001 TL with 6000 miles on it as a loaner. The transmission seemed to be real nible, crisp and not sluggish at all. When I got back into my car, I noticed that the transmission was different, almost like I wasn't sure it was in "D" when I first pulled out--the manual shifting was also not as crisp at it was in the TL. Is this just a new vs old tranny or could there be something else that I need Acura to look at?</STRONG>
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Drifting
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Originally posted by sundance_gold:
<STRONG>Let me ask you this...when I had my car in for service, I had a 2001 TL with 6000 miles on it as a loaner. The transmission seemed to be real nible, crisp and not sluggish at all. When I got back into my car, I noticed that the transmission was different, almost like I wasn't sure it was in "D" when I first pulled out--the manual shifting was also not as crisp at it was in the TL. Is this just a new vs old tranny or could there be something else that I need Acura to look at?</STRONG>
<STRONG>Let me ask you this...when I had my car in for service, I had a 2001 TL with 6000 miles on it as a loaner. The transmission seemed to be real nible, crisp and not sluggish at all. When I got back into my car, I noticed that the transmission was different, almost like I wasn't sure it was in "D" when I first pulled out--the manual shifting was also not as crisp at it was in the TL. Is this just a new vs old tranny or could there be something else that I need Acura to look at?</STRONG>
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all large scale production.expect a few rotten apples. however i was wondering if some of the trans get damaged during test drives. i remember somebody on this forum really beating the shit out of an RSX.you never really know what sort of abuse your car or more specifically your trans suffered.
i got my cl with 6 miles on the ODO and never had problem. hope it stays that way...
i got my cl with 6 miles on the ODO and never had problem. hope it stays that way...
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk:
<STRONG>You like Acura cause it's... good, good value, good quality, good performance.
But what if the sake of your fuck some other competitor say Infiniti35, or Lux SC IS300, or even a C32 AMG http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...50/w203c32.htm
this baby is fuking sweet.. if $55K is not a a problem
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<STRONG>You like Acura cause it's... good, good value, good quality, good performance.
But what if the sake of your fuck some other competitor say Infiniti35, or Lux SC IS300, or even a C32 AMG http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...50/w203c32.htm
this baby is fuking sweet.. if $55K is not a a problem
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My car is at the dealer as we speak, but I will still defend Acura. I think we have a great car for great money. About our transmissions going bad, I think there are a select few that will have problems, but that is what warranties are for and I'm glad I have one.
Oh, BTW, as I was driving around with the service manager, he told me our transmissions were "over-engineered". What does that mean?
Oh, BTW, as I was driving around with the service manager, he told me our transmissions were "over-engineered". What does that mean?
Drifting
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Originally posted by SidVicious:
<STRONG>Oh, BTW, as I was driving around with the service manager, he told me our transmissions were "over-engineered". What does that mean?</STRONG>
<STRONG>Oh, BTW, as I was driving around with the service manager, he told me our transmissions were "over-engineered". What does that mean?</STRONG>
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Suzuka Master
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Seriously, every mechanical part such as transsmission is doomed to fail.
The only question: "What is is the expected values of failures?"
Lets say that 1 in 1000 acura transsmissions fails, maybe this is considered to be normal event?
We should compare other cars. For example, whats the frequency of Nissan Maxima transsmision failure before 20K miles?
Maybe it is the same as Acura, or even worse.
Who knows this facts?
What is the total number of users on this web site? and what is the number of people who had problems with transsmissions?
And what is the number of people who do NOT lie about that?
I wonder if we would check out nissan maxima forums and see if those folks get these problems once in a while as well.
The only question: "What is is the expected values of failures?"
Lets say that 1 in 1000 acura transsmissions fails, maybe this is considered to be normal event?
We should compare other cars. For example, whats the frequency of Nissan Maxima transsmision failure before 20K miles?
Maybe it is the same as Acura, or even worse.
Who knows this facts?
What is the total number of users on this web site? and what is the number of people who had problems with transsmissions?
And what is the number of people who do NOT lie about that?
I wonder if we would check out nissan maxima forums and see if those folks get these problems once in a while as well.
Drifting
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Originally posted by Achance:
<STRONG>If they are members of this site chances are they are aggresive drivers. Meaning racing, and abusing the tranny that is why they are failing.</STRONG>
<STRONG>If they are members of this site chances are they are aggresive drivers. Meaning racing, and abusing the tranny that is why they are failing.</STRONG>
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Originally posted by russianDude:
<STRONG>I think there is nothing wrong with Acura transsmissions, those are isolated cases that we saw here.
My transsmision is fine, and I am very happy with it.
Also, it is possible that what some people post here is not true. Maybe those are just evil Acura competitors which try to discourage people from buying Acura.
Until I read some official consumer reviews I will not belive that Acura has deffect in transsmisions. If 1 in 1000 has bad transsmission this does not mean Acura has deffect in it.
I am realy happy with my car, so fuck all of you who don't like Acura</STRONG>
<STRONG>I think there is nothing wrong with Acura transsmissions, those are isolated cases that we saw here.
My transsmision is fine, and I am very happy with it.
Also, it is possible that what some people post here is not true. Maybe those are just evil Acura competitors which try to discourage people from buying Acura.
Until I read some official consumer reviews I will not belive that Acura has deffect in transsmisions. If 1 in 1000 has bad transsmission this does not mean Acura has deffect in it.
I am realy happy with my car, so fuck all of you who don't like Acura
</STRONG>
ones to loss my tranny at 24K..I have never once posted that i hate my car or Acura for that matter..It is a little upsetting though if it happens to you..When you're spending about 30k for a new car you don't want the trannission to go, brakes rotors to warp, fog lights to fail, sunroof to shake all in the first year of ownership..Again I am not putting Acura or the car down, and maybe i was unlucky and my car was the last to go across the line on a friday night when being built..But my point is why would i or anyone else lie about the problems they had.THat does not make sence to me, and instead of calling anyone a lier or an Acura hater, maybe you should just count your blessing that you are not having any problems yet or ever for that matter..
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Originally posted by russianDude:
<STRONG>I think there is nothing wrong with Acura transsmissions, those are isolated cases that we saw here.
My transsmision is fine, and I am very happy with it.
Also, it is possible that what some people post here is not true. Maybe those are just evil Acura competitors which try to discourage people from buying Acura.
Until I read some official consumer reviews I will not belive that Acura has deffect in transsmisions. If 1 in 1000 has bad transsmission this does not mean Acura has deffect in it.
I am realy happy with my car, so fuck all of you who don't like Acura</STRONG>
<STRONG>I think there is nothing wrong with Acura transsmissions, those are isolated cases that we saw here.
My transsmision is fine, and I am very happy with it.
Also, it is possible that what some people post here is not true. Maybe those are just evil Acura competitors which try to discourage people from buying Acura.
Until I read some official consumer reviews I will not belive that Acura has deffect in transsmisions. If 1 in 1000 has bad transsmission this does not mean Acura has deffect in it.
I am realy happy with my car, so fuck all of you who don't like Acura
</STRONG>
ones to loss my tranny at 24K..I have never once posted that i hate my car or Acura for that matter..It is a little upsetting though if it happens to you..When you're spending about 30k for a new car you don't want the transmission to go, brakes rotors to warp, fog lights to fail, sunroof to shake all in the first year of ownership..Again I am not putting Acura or the car down, and maybe i was unlucky and my car was the last to go across the line on a friday night when being built..But my point is why would i or anyone else lie about the problems they had.THat does not make sence to me, and instead of calling anyone a lier or an Acura hater, maybe you should just count your blessing that you are not having any problems yet or ever for that matter..[ 07-11-2001: Message edited by: ATLCL-S ]
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Originally posted by Rod:
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I don't race, torque-brake, or really give it any extreme treatment and mine acted up with only 11.5K miles. They say it's just the shifting solenoid though, hopefully they're right.</STRONG>
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I don't race, torque-brake, or really give it any extreme treatment and mine acted up with only 11.5K miles. They say it's just the shifting solenoid though, hopefully they're right.</STRONG>
Also, I don't think that people who have problems with their transmissions would lie about them. I don't understand why we would do something like that. What do I have to gain from telling you that my transmission had problems if it really didn't. Most people here already own a CL so it's to late to "sway" them in one direction or another.
Drifting
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Originally posted by SidVicious:
<STRONG>I'm the same way, almost. I like to drive fast and use the car for what it was intended and that is fast acceleration for passing and stuff. I don't torque-brake or take the car to the track.
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<STRONG>I'm the same way, almost. I like to drive fast and use the car for what it was intended and that is fast acceleration for passing and stuff. I don't torque-brake or take the car to the track.
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Originally posted by SidVicious:
<STRONG>Oh, BTW, as I was driving around with the service manager, he told me our transmissions were "over-engineered". What does that mean?</STRONG>
<STRONG>Oh, BTW, as I was driving around with the service manager, he told me our transmissions were "over-engineered". What does that mean?</STRONG>
As for changing the tranny fluid, 12-15k my be a little more than necessary. Every 40-45k is just fine. You do need to do it for two consecutive oil changes - i.e. at 40k and 45k, change the tranny fluid. at 80k and 85k, do it again. The tranny can not be completely drained (as of '00 models, and I'm not aware of any mods since), which requires this. The dealer will tell you to do it three consecutive times - I'm not convinced, I think he wants my money (I do it myself anyway)
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Originally posted by jdl75:
<STRONG>
The manumatics (TL and CL) are as he said "over-engineered". The gears, or more specifically the ratios in the tranny are beefier than they need to be. This is common among new stuff that you can't thouroughly test. Not suprisingly, it's called a safety factor. A friend of mine at HTP confirmed this. However, that is just the gears - not the whole thing. The shifting forks, or whatever in this manmatic are not entirely proven. The NSX uses a similar setup, but the total driver miles are too few to tell for sure.
As for changing the tranny fluid, 12-15k my be a little more than necessary. Every 25-30k is just fine. You do need to do it for two consecutive oil changes - i.e. at 25k and 30k, change the tranny fluid. At 50k and 55k, do it again (I assume we all qualify as sever drivers). The tranny can not be completely drained (as of '00 models, and I'm not aware of any mods since), which requires this. The dealer will tell you to do it three consecutive times - I'm not convinced, I think he wants my money (I do it myself anyway). This will help a sluggish shifting tranny. If you've bumped into the rev limiter more than a few times, brake tourqued the car (ever), or run near redline for miles on end, change the stuff NOW and every time you do that - no tranny fluid (or OEM tranny for that matter) can handle that.
[ 07-11-2001: Message edited by: jdl75 ]</STRONG>
<STRONG>
The manumatics (TL and CL) are as he said "over-engineered". The gears, or more specifically the ratios in the tranny are beefier than they need to be. This is common among new stuff that you can't thouroughly test. Not suprisingly, it's called a safety factor. A friend of mine at HTP confirmed this. However, that is just the gears - not the whole thing. The shifting forks, or whatever in this manmatic are not entirely proven. The NSX uses a similar setup, but the total driver miles are too few to tell for sure.
As for changing the tranny fluid, 12-15k my be a little more than necessary. Every 25-30k is just fine. You do need to do it for two consecutive oil changes - i.e. at 25k and 30k, change the tranny fluid. At 50k and 55k, do it again (I assume we all qualify as sever drivers). The tranny can not be completely drained (as of '00 models, and I'm not aware of any mods since), which requires this. The dealer will tell you to do it three consecutive times - I'm not convinced, I think he wants my money (I do it myself anyway). This will help a sluggish shifting tranny. If you've bumped into the rev limiter more than a few times, brake tourqued the car (ever), or run near redline for miles on end, change the stuff NOW and every time you do that - no tranny fluid (or OEM tranny for that matter) can handle that.
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First off, we do have very complicated/sohpisticated transmissions ! Rather than try to figure what's wrong, replace it, send the broken one back to ohio for research, so they can find out what the problems are etc.....Meanwhile, I was told NOT to change the tranny oil before 30K, then change it depending on your driving habits, mine: 200 miles, 3 days a week, in California HOT weather. Those of you that couldn't wait to change their tranny oil, because of god know's what.....bordem, I suppose, wasn't a good idea. And I hope you used ONLY Honda transmission oil.
Now can they handle "aggressive" driving, that's another story !
Now can they handle "aggressive" driving, that's another story !
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Originally posted by Fabvsix:
<STRONG>Meanwhile, I was told NOT to change the tranny oil before 30K, then change it depending on your driving habits
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<STRONG>Meanwhile, I was told NOT to change the tranny oil before 30K, then change it depending on your driving habits
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The first initial break in, you shouldn't change the tranny oil too soon, as most of the members have. Once you change it first, then change it to your driving babits !
Hope this make sense ! My first change was at 30,000 miles and I have NO tranny issues !
Hope this make sense ! My first change was at 30,000 miles and I have NO tranny issues !
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I changed mine at 15k because I know I abuse my tranny....my friend even commented on the nice metal pieces flowing out of the tranny... 
Anyway, if you are just changing tranny fluid...it's easy...get under the car...find the tranny fluid pan and unscrew the bolt...drain it, flush it with 1 quart of ATF, and then plug it and fill it...
Unfortunately, our car does not come with a tranny kit which would greatly benefit the car, but then again you don't have to unscrew about 20 bolts on your back..
Anyway, if you are just changing tranny fluid...it's easy...get under the car...find the tranny fluid pan and unscrew the bolt...drain it, flush it with 1 quart of ATF, and then plug it and fill it...
Unfortunately, our car does not come with a tranny kit which would greatly benefit the car, but then again you don't have to unscrew about 20 bolts on your back..
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Originally posted by sundance_gold:
<STRONG>Just out of curiosity, if you happen to blow your transmission, it is covered under the powertrain warranty, right? Isn't that to upwards of 100K miles?</STRONG>
<STRONG>Just out of curiosity, if you happen to blow your transmission, it is covered under the powertrain warranty, right? Isn't that to upwards of 100K miles?</STRONG>
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Originally posted by sundance_gold:
<STRONG>Just out of curiosity, if you happen to blow your transmission, it is covered under the powertrain warranty, right? Isn't that to upwards of 100K miles?</STRONG>
<STRONG>Just out of curiosity, if you happen to blow your transmission, it is covered under the powertrain warranty, right? Isn't that to upwards of 100K miles?</STRONG>
Basic: 4 yr. / 50,000 mi.
Drivetrain: 4 yr. / 50,000 mi.
Roadside: 4 yr. / 50,000 mi.
Rust: 5 yr. / Unlimited mi.
Drifting
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Originally posted by SilverSoCal_CL-P:
<STRONG>
Acura Warranty:
Basic: 4 yr. / 50,000 mi.
Drivetrain: 4 yr. / 50,000 mi.
Roadside: 4 yr. / 50,000 mi.
Rust: 5 yr. / Unlimited mi.</STRONG>
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Acura Warranty:
Basic: 4 yr. / 50,000 mi.
Drivetrain: 4 yr. / 50,000 mi.
Roadside: 4 yr. / 50,000 mi.
Rust: 5 yr. / Unlimited mi.</STRONG>
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Why is it a bad thing that we just have a plug? I remember changing the ATF on my '85 Olds Calais and it was a MAJOR BITCH! I ended up tilting one end to the drain (spilled a shitload on the pavement) and then you have to drop it, clean it, put a new gasket on, replace the filter, etc, etc.
I remember wishing it just had a drain.
I remember wishing it just had a drain.
Originally posted by moomaster_99:
<STRONG>...if you are just changing tranny fluid...it's easy...get under the car...find the tranny fluid pan and unscrew the bolt...drain it, flush it with 1 quart of ATF, and then plug it and fill it...
Unfortunately, our car does not come with a tranny kit which would greatly benefit the car, but then again you don't have to unscrew about 20 bolts on your back..</STRONG>
<STRONG>...if you are just changing tranny fluid...it's easy...get under the car...find the tranny fluid pan and unscrew the bolt...drain it, flush it with 1 quart of ATF, and then plug it and fill it...
Unfortunately, our car does not come with a tranny kit which would greatly benefit the car, but then again you don't have to unscrew about 20 bolts on your back..
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