i was on my way up to see my friend at walgreens and i was sitting at at a stop light on sherwood forest(likE ANY OF U WOULD KNOW WERE THAT IS AT!) but anyway im just chillin and this 92-96 prelude si with red honda emblems and the old si emblem pulls up next to me and im praying that he wants to go. i look away to check the light and look back at the prelude and the driver is laughing at me,so now i really want to smoke his ass!! he motioned to go and i nodded, the light turns and we both hit it, i pulled him out of first by 3 links and the end of second i had him by about 5 links, so i let off slow down to 40 mph and the speed llimit is 45 and he stayed about 3 cars back. Get to the next intersection and he gets behind me! light turnes and he turned ! i luv racing people that under estimate our cars!

98 2.3 cl artic ice

performance
pilot motorsports intake
helix throttle body spacer
venom 400
9.3 mm wires
2.25 catback exhaust arospeed dual tip muff
debadged back emblems

sound
focal mids and highs
zebco studio 100

suspension
goldline 2.25 drop springs

lighting
sylvania sliverstar headlights
pilot hyperwhite foglamps
green dome light
green liscense plate lights

 

good kill

love killing those prelude's

 

Nice Kill! The older ludes are no match for the CL-S. I can't believe anyone is ignorant enough to challenge a CL-S with a semi-stock Prelude.

 

Nice kill! Do you have any pics of your car? Post them!

 

I believe his car is not a CL-S. If you check out his sig you'll notice it's a 2.3L (150hp with an I4). Lowboy, you sure it was the prelude Si? Probably just some ricer who puts on the Si sticker. If it was an Si, then i don't think you would be able to keep up with it. That thing would is consider faster than 97+ prelude 5-speed because of it's light weight. I also been own by one at the runs.

BTW, good kill!

 

6banger it was an si and if u read my car is far from stock

kill list
92-96 prelude si
2 civic si
99 prelude with intake & exhuast same horsepower if not more than a 92-96 horsepower
95 ls integra with intake and gsr tranny
00 nissan frontier v6 intake exhuast and throttle body spacer
93 ford probe gt 210 hp jasper motor (interstate pull)
96 lexus sc 400
THE 2.3 'S MAY BE A (4 BANGER) BUT U CAN MAKE THEM RUN

 

Actually the older ludes are faster than the new ones, well the Si's.

 

nice kill.

it's car lengths, btw

 

dammit am i wrong about everything I KNOW ITS CAR LENGTHS!
I WASNT PLAYING GOLF! JUST KIDDING. BUT IM MAD THAT NO ONE BELIEVES ME! I WAS THERE! ME ONLY , IT WAS A SI ! WHY IS IT SO HARD TO BELIEVE WHEN A STOCK 97-00 PRELUDE IS RATED AT 200HP AND A 92-96 WAS RATED AT 195.

 

mmm sausage links

 

I'm not doubting your win, just stating that the older prelude, Si's, are faster.

 

I am not saying that i don't believe you. Anything can happen in a race (whether the driver missed shift or anything else). Therefore, i know you beat him because what would you get out of it if you lied? Also, i noticed all your mods and as for the VENOM 400, i don't really know much about it. Is your car an auto or 5-speed?

 

Venom 400 Control Module

Product Specifications
The Venom400 performance control module is an add on control unit that features it's own micro-controller. This module is connected to the throttle position sensor and the Manifold absolute pressure sensor, and by monitoring the sensors output characteristics and modifying the input signal to the vehicles existing ECU


Strengths:
about 7-15hp, increases throttle response

 

so you beat a prelude. thats pretty impressive i though our cars couldnt even touch that.

 

ur right about the control module the only weakness is gas mileage it pours hella gas
my car is an auto that is why i got the vneom 400 it pushes the rms all the way to redline and downshifts twice as fast as without it when it is off there is no comparison when acctivated it shifts fast and extremely hard almost no lag from first to second and when it shifts into third the rpms jump like i was power shifting a manual

 

they are also ment more for an auto than a manual i know people that had them on a 5 speed and they coulnt tell any diff than without it

 

so you think those venom400s are worth the price? by the way how much is one of those and how much to install?

 

Impressive power increase. Do they make it for 99 Av6?

 

$359 with shipping www.planetperformance.com it takes about an hour to install do it urself!!

 

thanks lowboy but do you think its really worth it considering right now i only have an intake and i a custom catback is coming really soon.

 

yeah u will really notice a diff thats what i had when i got mine also when u get it go ahead a get perf wires
PUT IT THIS WAY WHEN I RACED MY FRIEND IN THE 93 PROBE GT WITH THE 210HP MOTOR WITHOUT THE MODULE HE BEAT ME BY 3 CAR LENGTHS WHEN I GOT IT WE RACED AGAIN ON THE INTERSTATE AND I PULLED ON HIM BY 2 CAR LENGTHS ! IT WAS AND STILL IS THE BIGGEST POWER ADDER ON MY MOTOR

 

I also have the Python Venom 400 module on my Civic. Before I swapped the engine and tranny, my car was an automatic, I had the Venom 400 module (D16Y version) installed, like what lowboy said, the venom 400 really made a difference on the automatic car.

However, after I swapped in the 5-spd Integra motor, I have installed another Venom 400 module (B18C R version) on the engine. I don't know if it is because of my modded ECU or the fact that it is a 5-spd, but to my disappointment, the module did not make a whole lot of difference.

 

Get it for $300.00 plus shipping at coximport.com... (I believe they deliver via next day air also)

 

Thanks lowboy/hondan53 for the info. I've seen this product before, but didn't really pay much attention to it (thought they wouldn't make it for my car). So this VENOM400 is like a ECU? What if i plan on using this with the Apexi Vtec controller? Also, it's just a plug in unit and no need tuning?

 

its apug un unit it is preprogrammed if u have an aftermarket ECU it multiplies what the ECU already does. I want the JET ECU upgrade has anyone used that ?

 

Again, like what Lowboy said, the Venom 400 Module is a plug in unit, by modifing the signals the ECU get from the Throttle Position Sensor and the Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor. Venom 400 "tricks" the ECU to output more fuel into the engine, when more fuel is dumped into the block, the intake will automatically take in more air, in order to maintain the average 14:1 air to fuel ratio, thus making more power to the wheels.

You may use Venom 400 with a VTEC controller, I believe it does not conflict with VTEC. I am running Venom 400 with both the VAFC and a remapped ECU. It seems everything works fine.

 

will this cause the car to use more gas cuz prices aint so low around here i aint trying to add something on that would use a shit load of gas up

 

it all depends on how u drive ur car! u keep ur foot in anything ull get bad gass mileage i mean one time isnt gonna drop a 1/4 tank gas honestly i get about the same as i always had i think the reason i run rich is for one the venom 400 and i had a bad o2 sensor for about 6 months and whe nthat happens ur car goes into a safe mode and ur car runs rich so u wont break anything else but it stayed burned into my ECU to run rich for awhile it is just know that my gas mileage is back to normal. IT IS ALWAYS SAFER TO RUN RICH INSTEAD OF LEAN U WONT HARM ANYTHING BUT UR POCKET FOR GAS! INSTEAD OF RUNNING LEAN AND BURN UP A PISTON !

 

When more feul is deliver, obviously it would burn more gas. However, there is a switch for you to turn the VENOM 400 on and off. Therefore, you may use it when needed and save gas when driving normal.

 

I am not sure about this, but I think the Venom 400 is only activated when a hard acceleration is detected, otherwise it remain in standby mode. When the LED lights up, that is when Venom 400 is active (It only lights up when the throttle plate opens fully, throttle position sensor signal in use). I did notice decrease in gas milage, but then again, that could be a combination of all of the mods I have on the car too. (I currently get approximately 20 mph under normal driving conditions in my civic)

Well, worse comes to the worst you can always shut it off by flipping the switch.

 

I can't wait to slap the VENOM400 on my car. Did some research about it and the reviews were mostly good. Some buyers said it didn't work due to the fact that they have a stick instead of an auto. I guess this would be a pretty decent investment.

 

Go for it, man. It will definately be a good investment.

 

buy the bastard ull be happy i leave mine on all the time just in case i race like i said i dont see any diff in my gas mileage with it on or off as long as i dont have my foot in it
WHEN U BUY THE VENOM 400 POST WHAT U THINK ABOUT IT U WONT REGRET BUYING IT

 

When you connect the venom 400 does it just plug in or do you have to cut wires.........in my last car i bought a S-AFC and i just split the wires to the ECU, my f-ing roomates misshifted my car and blew my engine, so i took out the ECU and took it to the dealer. Unfortunately they could tell that i had tampered with my ECU and wouldnt cover my warranty. I wouldn't mind having the venom 400 so long as it is easy to remove with out ever detecting that it was there.

 

u dont have to splice anything comes with connectors.plugs into ur ecu throttle body and intake manifold its might be kind of hard to get to the one on ur intake manifold (at least mine was ) should come with everything u need

I WOULDNT BUY IT FROM SPEEDPEOPLE.COM BECAUSE MINE DIDNT COME WITH HALF THE CONNECTORS SO I HAD TO SOLDER THE WIRES TOGETHER ON MY THROTTLE BODY ! SO MINE IS NEVER COMING OFF ! EVEN HAVING TO DO THAT IT ONLY TOOK 90 min.

 

well in my case it really doesnt matter since i got no more warranty coverage anyway

 

I hare to say it, but I don't believe you. My friend has an si prelue, and it is only rated at about 160hp with about as much torque and no vtec. He romped all over my ass, then he proceeded to beat my friend in a gsr that runws high forteens. Granted he has a cold air intake and the car is slammed. He shit tossed me. And I noticed in your sig that you basically have just an intake and exhaust as far as performance goes. Even if you add in the Venom it still puts you only a little bit ahead. And his car weighs much less than the CL. Sorry for this but I guess I am raising the BS flag, although I don't understand why you would make it up. Maybe the guy didn't know how to drive his car. I guess it could have happened, just very doubtful.

 

Like i said before, in a race anything can happen. It's not that hard to believe because it's not like he killed a Cobra. Maybe the other guy does not shift quick enough or missed shift. A fast car would not due any good if the driver does not know how to perform it.

 

okay a prelude doesnt run high 14's with a intake i dont care if u drop it out of a airplane! yeah i have intake exhaust i also have a throttle body spacer which is the second biggest power adder on my car ! it helped more than the intake and exhaust combined ! and the venom transformed my car ! I RACED A NEW GEN PRELUDE FROM A ROLL AND PULLED HIM BY A CAR FROM 45 TO ABOUT 65 !



I DONT CARE IF U BELIEVE ME OR ANYONE ELSE BELIEVES ME , IT DOESNT MATTER THAT MUCH NO ONE ELSE WAS THERE BUT ME AND HIM AND HE KNOWS I BEAT HIM .

it may not have been an si but he had the stickers and i did here vtec . and why couldnt i run with him but with a 97-99 lude ?

 

another thing preludes si are vtec they are the h23 dohc 195hp vtec motor and the h22 is a better motor there is no honda made that is an si that doesnt have vtec the 92-96 ludes with just the dohc had 160 but not the si AND A 2.3 HAS 150 STOCK

if anyone is talkin' BS its u beat a 14 sec teg with 160 horses i'd give a $1,000,000,000 to see a 14 sec time slip from a stock lude

i raced my friend from a dead stop in his DOHC saturn with intake throttle body and 2.25 catback that runs 15.5 and from a dead stop he pulled half a car on me and it stayed that way till we let off at 100 mph and a 97-99 lude with intake exhuast short shift runs a 16.4 I KNOW I CAN BEAT THAT