6-speeders - neutral w/o clutch?
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6-speeders - neutral w/o clutch?
Just curious for those 6-speed CL-S....when you are just coasting to a stop, can you just pop the shifter into neutral without depressing the clutch? Mine can be put into neutral without much effort at all (once the speed slows enough). Can others please confirm?
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Originally Posted by gsrblack
Just curious for those 6-speed CL-S....when you are just coasting to a stop, can you just pop the shifter into neutral without depressing the clutch? Mine can be put into neutral without much effort at all (once the speed slows enough). Can others please confirm?
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no, i'm trying to find out if that's normal for the shifter to go into neutral without much effort and without the clutch. i'm trying to find out if that was a problem....can someone tell me if when they are slowing, and almost at a stop, whether or not they can easily just pop it into neutral. if they can't, then i will try to get the dealer to fix it and see if that could have been a cause to my clutch wearing. i had to pay for the new clutch because they would not warranty it. i had acura client services involved, but they never really tried to contact me.
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I now drive an accord....
If the REVS are matched you can switch to the proper gear including neutral without using the clutch. So I don't see that anything is wrong with your car, however as everyone else has stated you should make every effort to make this not happen because it does put more wear on the drivetrain.
If your still underwarrenty I would still have it looked at by the dealer to make sure everything is 100%.
If your still underwarrenty I would still have it looked at by the dealer to make sure everything is 100%.
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Originally Posted by gsrblack
Just curious for those 6-speed CL-S....when you are just coasting to a stop, can you just pop the shifter into neutral without depressing the clutch? Mine can be put into neutral without much effort at all (once the speed slows enough). Can others please confirm?
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As long as there is little to no force to pull it out of gear, you will not hurt anything.
It is a dangerous as pulling it into neutral with the engine off sitting in your driveway.
It is a dangerous as pulling it into neutral with the engine off sitting in your driveway.
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every MT car Ive owned or driven has been able to do this. Nothing special. I also have never had a transmission problem(knock on wood). But my CL is my first auto so we'll see what happens with this one. Anyone think its a problem that I put my auto in neutral while at a stop light?
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As long as your properly match revs, yes you can. But for the sake of everyday driving, don't do it.
It seems may you have a problem if you can go into N to easily from any gear. I really have to muscle it out of gear if I want to do that.
It seems may you have a problem if you can go into N to easily from any gear. I really have to muscle it out of gear if I want to do that.
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I now drive an accord....
Originally Posted by sliptones629
Anyone think its a problem that I put my auto in neutral while at a stop light?
Why would you even do this You better not say that your too laxy to let your foot rest on the brake
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there is no need to use the clutch to slide out of gear. going in is a different story. I had a honda tranny that had 275k that had that done and 0 issues and just 2 clutches
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I notice that when slowing and coming to a stop in 1st, 2nd or 3rd, I can easily pop it out of gear and into neutral without much effort and not using the clutch. I was trying to see if anyone can do this easily. At higher speeds, you can't just "pop" it out of gear into neutral without using the clutch.
I want to make sure there is nothing wrong with the car...if there is, whether or not this problem could be the cause for my clutch wearing.
I want to make sure there is nothing wrong with the car...if there is, whether or not this problem could be the cause for my clutch wearing.
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Originally Posted by 03_CLS_6sp
You need to time it to gently push it out of gear at the same time you're taking your foot off the gas. Been doing it for years, no worries.
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Agreed X 2. At the right revs, with no load, it easily slides into neutral...
Originally Posted by BlueCLS6
ditto... I do this all the time as well. There is absolutely nothing wrong with doing this and in fact it puts LESS wear and tear on the drivetrain (if done without any resistance) as you are cycling the clutch system less and putting less stress on the pressure plate spring.
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I tried it this morning. At slow speeds I was able to get into N without much efford. At high speeds there was resistance so I stopped. Weather it's a good thing or not I'm not comfortable doing it so I'll stick with the current way I drive.
Seems to me this would cause transmission gear wear. Not clutch.
Seems to me this would cause transmission gear wear. Not clutch.
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I now drive an accord....
My question for all you people who do this on purpose is WHY do you feel you need to put your car in neutral while driving? I have never seen anyone in person or on the interweb make a valid point to back up this action. I know im opening a can of worms here and this has already been beat to death, but the only time your car should be in neutral is when your out of your car, or you are unable to push in the clutch
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okay, jsut wanted to make sure that there is nothing wrong with my car. when the car is almost at a stop, i am able to gently push it into neutral....but that's only at really really slow speeds and without gas. other times, there is resistance to moving it.
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I put it in neutral at lights for example or going down a grade to work where I coast at 65 mph and no one is around. I think in most states it is illegal to do this but I just try not to drive with cops in the passenger seat.
What do you think people did before full gearbox synchronization? They matched the revs with their speed and shifted gears. At slower speeds with a load on the engine you can blip the throttle for a second and shift out of gear.
What do you think people did before full gearbox synchronization? They matched the revs with their speed and shifted gears. At slower speeds with a load on the engine you can blip the throttle for a second and shift out of gear.
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Originally Posted by spdy0001
Why would you even do this You better not say that your too laxy to let your foot rest on the brake
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Originally Posted by sliptones629
I figure there is less stress on the engine, transmission and everything else related. Now its not every stop light but more so ones that I know im going to be at for a couple of minutes or more. I know they are designed to be able to, but I have always been wary of putting ANY extra stress onto my vehicles. I dunno just my
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Is it that much work to press the clutch
On the highway I don't use my clutch....U could shift without it!!!
But when Im slowing down....I always use my clutch!!!
On the highway I don't use my clutch....U could shift without it!!!
But when Im slowing down....I always use my clutch!!!
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Originally Posted by spdy0001
Im pretty sure its more stress to keep shifting your auto in and out of drive and to simple apply a little pressure to the brakes. You are putting little if no wear on your brakes at a stoplight and I can't think of any other part that would wear either
Well when your stopped there isnt any wear on the brakes. Its just the fact that the engine and transmission tryiing to continue moving while the brakes are being applied. Always trying to push foreward against the force of the brakes. I dont know for sure just the thoughts that were running my mind.
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Originally Posted by sliptones629
Well when your stopped there isnt any wear on the brakes. Its just the fact that the engine and transmission tryiing to continue moving while the brakes are being applied. Always trying to push foreward against the force of the brakes. I dont know for sure just the thoughts that were running my mind.
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Shifting an auto in and out of gear (stoplight or not) is asking for trouble later on. Brakes you can replace for cheap, engines and transmission you cannot.
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You can even shift into gear without the clutch if you wanted to. Just shift to the next gear at 3000 rpms. Pull out of gear, push towards the next gear (but don't force it) and it will suck it into gear when the revs are matched. 3000 rpms work for all Hondas and Acuras.
Not a bad skill to have, in case of emergency. My friend's clutch went out on him while he was driving. He was still able to drive his car home.
Not a bad skill to have, in case of emergency. My friend's clutch went out on him while he was driving. He was still able to drive his car home.
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