Well the 6 speeds have been out for 2 months now or longer and quite a few of you have had one for that length of time but yet no one has done any type of "testing" to this thing...no one has dyno'ed it....no one has ran a 1/8 or 1/4 mile in it.....no one has even raced against anyone.....no one has raced side by side with an auto CL-S to see if there is any difference....im sure MANY people here are anxious, much like me, to see some hard data or proof that could back up all the talk from certain 6 speed owners claiming SO much more power and speed and acceleration...isnt it time that we got some hard numbers on any of this??? how about at least a 6 speed vs. auto CL-S race to see where the cards fall.

 

I will soon, but not right now.
I gave my reasons in other posts several times before.

Shawn S

 

it seems that all of you 6 speed owners have broken in the cars by this point (over 600 miles)....is there any other excuse? my 2002 has 2000 miles and it seems broken in....are you guys telling me than with more milage it will get MORE broken in and FASTER??? anyhow, it would be cool if some 6 speed owners either shit, piss, or get off the can!! no more excuses....there is alot of hard talk about the speed and chirping the gears and the throw-you-in-your-seat acceleration but no proof to back anything up.

 

i have a 03 6speed.........where can i dyno my car at..........i just moved to dayton ohio............im not scared of s**t

 

AWESOME!!! we finally have a soul willing to put his 6 speed on a dyno...anyone know where he can take it???

 

One of those Dyno centers:

This one is in your town:


World Auto Imports LTD
116 C West Park Rd.
Dayton 45459
937-312-1533






OHIO


Buschur Racing
24 West Main Street
Wakeman 44889
Tel. 440-839-1900

Dynotec Motorsports Mobile Chassis Dynamometer
1477 East 361st Street
East Lake 44095
Tel. 440-942-3349
Website: http://www.dynotecmotorsports.com

Force Fed Industries
2924 E. 14th Ave
Columbus, 43219
Tel. 614-372-0824
Website: http://www.forcefedindustries.com/forcefed-home.php



Norris Racing Technologies
200 Stanford Pkwy
Findlay 45840
Tel. 419-427-3330
Website: http://www.norrisracingtech.com

Passen Motorsports
3419 E. Dublin Grandville Rd.
Westerville 43081
Tel. 800-441-8913
Website: http://www.passenmotorsports.com

Paul's Automotive Engineering
9750 Conklin Rd.
Cincinnati 45242
Tel. 513-791-1087

Supertrapp and Kerker Performance Exhausts
For In-House Research & Development Only
Website: http://www.supertrapp.com

World Auto Imports LTD
116 C West Park Rd.
Dayton 45459
937-312-1533

 

I agree 6sp owners are wimps! If I had a 6sp I'd have 10-15 kills notched on my belt!

 

Actually, that is true... as you put more and more miles on a car it will loosen up further. While it's true that the car is broken in around 1000 miles or so... it will continue to loosen up for as much as 5k-7k more miles or so. After that though... it's pretty much done......

 

i would expect the 6spd to have about 220whp....which is taking about a 15% drivetrain loss which is about right for a FWD.

 

Nashua_Night_Hawk,

How did you get those DYNO shop listings?
Is there an online database somewhere?

I can’t find anything in my local phone book and I even asked at the local speed shop I by my stuff at and they said there were none nearby me.

Thanks,
Shawn S

 

I am getting mine in two weeks, b/c I ordered it and believe me it wont take long to get the required miles, so look for my times in 3-4 weeks. It will probably included mods like intake, headers and pulleys.

 

Yes there is one db on-line:

http://www.dynojet.com/lauto.shtml

http://www.dynojet.com/maps/autodynos/pa.htm

Here is the ones in PA:

PENNSYLVANIA
DL Automotive
2440 Commercial Ave.
State College 16801
Tel. 814-238-1578




Don's Performance Test & Tune
10020 Meadville St. Box 151
Cranesville 16410
Tel. 814-756-3432
Email: dynodon.pa@netzero.net

Indiana County Technology Center
441 Hamill Road
Indiana 15701
Tel. 724-349-6700

JD's Auto Repair & Performance
810 Welch Road
Huntingdon Valley, 19006
Tel. 215-938-9270



Kauffman Motorsports
1759 Ridge Rd.
York Springs 17372
Tel. 717-528-8260
Website: http://www.kauffmanmotorsports.com



KD Rotary
311 Industrial Drive
Nazareth 18064
Tel. 610-614-1214
Website: http://www.kdrotary.com/html/html/maina.htm

Mid State Products/Dynamo Motorsports
180 Silver Springs Road
Mechanicsburg, 17050
Tel. 717-939-1391



Performance Specialties, Inc.
323 High Street
Pottstown 19464
Tel. 610-326-7000
Website: http://www.performancespecialties.com/



Second Street Speed
109 S. Second St.
Perkasie 18944
Tel. 215-257-3724
Website: http://www.secondstreetspeed.com/default.htm



Strope Speed Shop
190 Murtland Avenue
Washington 15301
Tel. 724-228-1166
Website: http://www.stropespeedshop.com

World Racing
3000 Kutztown Road
Reading, 19605
Tel. 610-939-9800

 

Thanks.....The one in Nazareth is the only one close to me.
I will give them a call.

What questions should I ask?

I heard there were some brands of DYNO machines that aren’t that reliable.

Shawn S

 

how many pulls for a baseline (usually 3)? A/F metering? if you would mod/tune the car while it's strapped how much per hr?


Those centers have the dynojet dynos, the best!

 

What’s a “good” price normally for 2 or 3 runs ???

Shawn S

 

I checked out a place in Atlanta listed on that site and they were charging $65 for 3 pulls.

 

All the more reason to dyno & track test them at ~600-1000 miles and then more down the road, to document the increase in performance. Some engines (notably the Chevy LS1 loosen up considerably, while others such as mine, not so much)

 

I bought my six speed for myself - not to impress you. No dyno for me. Ha! Why would I pay money for someone to attempt to quantify my fun?

(obviously, I'm not a racer or interested in bragging rights)

 

 

 

I think thats a good idea...dyno one that is new...low low miles on it 100 or so and then again at about 1K or 2K to see if there is a difference...but who will be able to not mod there 6 speed durring that time.

 

 

 

 

 

Where is the "THIS THREAD HAS BEEN HIJACKED" when you need it.

 

hey guys.............im going tuesday at 10 am..........its 75 bucks for a "basic pull...........the only problem i wont be able to post it.............maybe i can fax it to one of you guys who can.............is 75 a good deal????????

 

100 miles is no where near break in mileage. I hope no one is stupid enough to dyno their car that early. Unless you can talk your salesman into a solo test drive for a few hours, I'd feel bad for the guy who ends up buying that car though.

 

ive nevered dynoed a car before...................any procedures to follow...............anything will help?

 

March 15 to April 24 is not "two months now or longer"...

 

So no one has done a redline pull in their 6 speedbefore 100 miles? A dyno run isn't going to hurt anything.

If the motor can't handle a dyno run, it was a POS to begin with, better to find out early than later.

 

Thats what i am saying...I woulnt think that a dyno run at 100 miles wouldnt "kill" anything...but it would be a good judgment of what happens between 100 miles on the car and 1000...to see if it actualy makes an increase in HP.

 

In a 6 speed you need to look at your gear ratios and find which one is closest to a 1:1 ratio and dyno the car in that gear.

My guess is that either 4th or 5th gear will be close to a 1:1 ratio.

Typically you start the pull around 1,500 to 2,500 rpms, punch the gas until you hit redline (or the revlimiter) and then you are all done.

 

From Acuranews.com:

5th gear => 0.976

 

JTS.. you could fax it to me!!! I have a digi cam and a scanner.. I would be MORE THAN Happy to host the pics/scanned images and post them on here for everybody to debate.

PM or E-Mail to get my Fax number.....please!!

 

hey DOM.............ill try to get up with you..........need email.........maybe this will be the end to the big debate

 

My e-mail is PappalardoD@McdMgmt.com

Fax# is 630-368-3978


Let me know if you need anything else

DOM

***Please send an e-mail if you fax it, so I know to go pick it up.