252.2 whp 229.1 tq - Why so low?
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252.2 whp 229.1 tq - Why so low?
I had 3 pulls, 1 w/ no spray, 2 with spray.
Something has to be wrong. I pulled 211/177 last year with headers only.
Today I got 208 / 175 with headers, intake and plugs.
Here are the runs with spray. The tech pointed out that I have room to add more N20 since my a/f ratio was so low. Any ideas what could be wrong? Same people, diffrent dyno jet. Maybe its the dyno?
Video of 250.4 Pull
Needless to say, I am disappointed.
Something has to be wrong. I pulled 211/177 last year with headers only.
Today I got 208 / 175 with headers, intake and plugs.
Here are the runs with spray. The tech pointed out that I have room to add more N20 since my a/f ratio was so low. Any ideas what could be wrong? Same people, diffrent dyno jet. Maybe its the dyno?
Video of 250.4 Pull
Needless to say, I am disappointed.
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#9
Originally posted by Zapata
why is your trq/hp curve intersecting at approx 5500 RPM???? ISn't it supposed to intersect at 5200?
why is your trq/hp curve intersecting at approx 5500 RPM???? ISn't it supposed to intersect at 5200?
for the hp and torque curves to intersect graphically at 5252 rpm, they have to be plotted on the same scale (ie, 100hp is on the same line as 100 ft-lbs of torque).
#10
They were having problems hooking up sensors under the hood both times. I wonder if they aren't reading something properly.
I need to try another place to see if I get the same thing.
I need to try another place to see if I get the same thing.
#11
the question is how big of a shot and is it an auto? im guessing it is b/c of the 211 w/headers...just so you know, I did 290hp w/ a 75 dry shot and probably 310 with the 100 dry shot...if you're looking to get the same HP as the shot, go with a wet shot...dry shots are usually off by quite a lot...oh yeah, I gained 50hp with the 75 dry shot and approximately 70 with the 100 shot...
#12
Originally posted by tankmonkey
the scale for horsepower (on the left side) and torque (on the right side) aren't the same.
for the hp and torque curves to intersect graphically at 5252 rpm, they have to be plotted on the same scale (ie, 100hp is on the same line as 100 ft-lbs of torque).
the scale for horsepower (on the left side) and torque (on the right side) aren't the same.
for the hp and torque curves to intersect graphically at 5252 rpm, they have to be plotted on the same scale (ie, 100hp is on the same line as 100 ft-lbs of torque).
#18
Originally posted by blxmjx
are you on the dyno w/your 19's? also, is the guy the same person that ran the dyno the previous time you got your baseline?
are you on the dyno w/your 19's? also, is the guy the same person that ran the dyno the previous time you got your baseline?
Yes, they are the same bunch of guys, just diffrent dyno meter (they changed locations). Well I say its a diffrent dyno b/c they are at diffrent locations, i dont know if its the same one or not.
#19
Originally posted by Zootking
I did 290hp w/ a 75 dry shot and probably 310 with the 100 dry shot...if you're looking to get the same HP as the shot, go with a wet shot...
I did 290hp w/ a 75 dry shot and probably 310 with the 100 dry shot...if you're looking to get the same HP as the shot, go with a wet shot...
#20
If your a/f ratios are rich, why not up the n20 jet and redo the dyno but I'd suggest running the dyno on some stocks or some smaller lighter wheels. I'd bet the heavy 19's are robbing you of some substantial hp. I dynoed my car w/the 19" rezax then redynoed w/the stocks and picked up an extra 12hp.
#21
Originally posted by blxmjx
If your a/f ratios are rich, why not up the n20 jet and redo the dyno but I'd suggest running the dyno on some stocks or some smaller lighter wheels. I'd bet the heavy 19's are robbing you of some substantial hp. I dynoed my car w/the 19" rezax then redynoed w/the stocks and picked up an extra 12hp.
If your a/f ratios are rich, why not up the n20 jet and redo the dyno but I'd suggest running the dyno on some stocks or some smaller lighter wheels. I'd bet the heavy 19's are robbing you of some substantial hp. I dynoed my car w/the 19" rezax then redynoed w/the stocks and picked up an extra 12hp.
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Originally posted by darrinb
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#32
I. Also, the earlier suggestion (in this thread) about checking the air filter couldn't hurt. Have you checked it?
With intake and headers the usual high-speed torque peak *and* HP peak is *usually* around 6K RPM and your new A/F is taking a second downward dip (~11-to-1) where I would expect the most amount of air to be consumed. (Compare the older no-spray to new no-spray runs and look at the A/F curve’s down slope around 6K.) You’re really starting to dump HP/TQ with that fuel-air mix *and* theoretically speaking maximum horsepower occurs when a normally aspirated engine reaches its maximum airflow.
II. No question about the 19" wheels gobbling up HP/TQ across the whole power band.
III. My actuator opens at an RPM > 4100 RPM. (maybe my tach is off).
With intake and headers the usual high-speed torque peak *and* HP peak is *usually* around 6K RPM and your new A/F is taking a second downward dip (~11-to-1) where I would expect the most amount of air to be consumed. (Compare the older no-spray to new no-spray runs and look at the A/F curve’s down slope around 6K.) You’re really starting to dump HP/TQ with that fuel-air mix *and* theoretically speaking maximum horsepower occurs when a normally aspirated engine reaches its maximum airflow.
II. No question about the 19" wheels gobbling up HP/TQ across the whole power band.
III. My actuator opens at an RPM > 4100 RPM. (maybe my tach is off).
#36
Re: 252.2 whp 229.1 tq - Why so low?
Your running way to rich. You should stay in the 11-12 area, running rich also can make you loose power.
Originally posted by mantis23
I had 3 pulls, 1 w/ no spray, 2 with spray.
Something has to be wrong. I pulled 211/177 last year with headers only.
Today I got 208 / 175 with headers, intake and plugs.
Here are the runs with spray. The tech pointed out that I have room to add more N20 since my a/f ratio was so low. Any ideas what could be wrong? Same people, diffrent dyno jet. Maybe its the dyno?
Video of 250.4 Pull
Needless to say, I am disappointed.
I had 3 pulls, 1 w/ no spray, 2 with spray.
Something has to be wrong. I pulled 211/177 last year with headers only.
Today I got 208 / 175 with headers, intake and plugs.
Here are the runs with spray. The tech pointed out that I have room to add more N20 since my a/f ratio was so low. Any ideas what could be wrong? Same people, diffrent dyno jet. Maybe its the dyno?
Video of 250.4 Pull
Needless to say, I am disappointed.
#38
Originally posted by mantis23
so I need to add what, more N20, air, or fuel? Sorry, but I'm a n00b when it comes to a/f ratios.
so I need to add what, more N20, air, or fuel? Sorry, but I'm a n00b when it comes to a/f ratios.
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