235/40/18 tire reccomendations
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235/40/18 tire reccomendations
I'm going to be buying some wheels halfway soon, but I am stuck on which tires to buy. I want to do it as inexpensively as possible while still getting a quality tire. So far I like the Kuhmo 712's ($111/each), Falken GR-Beta 451 ($130/each), and Sumi HTR+ ($115/each)
Any other suggestions or opinions for a summer tire thats under $130/each and comes in 235/40/18?
Any other suggestions or opinions for a summer tire thats under $130/each and comes in 235/40/18?
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Pilot Sport PS2
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The Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 Max Performance Summer tire was initially developed for use as Original Equipment on some of the world's most prestigious sports cars and sports sedans by combining world-class wet and dry handling with confident and predictable cornering. Some of the first fitments include the BMW Alpina Z8, Chrysler Crossfire, McLaren SLR and Porsche GT2 and GT3 models.
The Pilot Sport PS2 tire features advances in performance, wear, durability, and comfort thanks to Michelin's patented C3M manufacturing technology, a highly advanced production process that allows for extremely precise placement of a wider variety of tire components than ever before. The Pilot Sport PS2 tread features two different rubber compounds across their treads. A hybrid silica/carbon black compound begins at the tire's outer shoulder and continues across the tread until it joins a high-silica compound that continues to the tire's inside shoulder. Each of these tread compounds is specifically formulated for its location to optimize dry and wet handling for crisp, predictable cornering and increased wear and high-speed durability. Additionally, these high grip tread compounds are molded into an asymmetric design with large outer shoulder blocks along with continuous intermediate and center ribs (similar to that of Michelin's Formula One tires) to enhance steering response and cornering stability. The tread design also features wide circumferential grooves and lateral notches that help channel water through the footprint to enhance wet road traction. On the inside, the tread design is supported by two, high-tensile, lightweight steel cord belts that are further reinforced by size-optimized, precisely placed, individual Aramid/nylon hybrid filaments. These Aramid/nylon hybrid filaments replace the old bands of nylon to bring the Pilot Sport PS2 to a new level of manufacturing and design-tuning precision. This precision allows the Pilot Sport PS2 to provide improved steering response and resistance to distortion while enhancing ride quality and high speed durability.
During the road portion of our evaluation, the Pilot Sport PS2 displayed impressive road manners. The taut feel received high marks for handling by providing crisp steering response, but did cause the Pilot Sport PS2 to feel just a little firmer than the other two Max Performance tires over the sharper bumps and expansion joints. On coarser concrete and asphalt surfaces, the Pilot Sport PS2 generated some additional tread noise, although our team did not find ride comfort and noise levels to be objectionable.
Out on the dry test track, the Pilot Sport PS2 was the clear winner, offering very good handling and turning the fastest average overall lap time of the test. Steering response was sharp without feeling nervous, and felt stable in the higher-speed, sweeping corners. Gone is the gentle understeer of the 1st generation Pilot Sport, giving way to a neutral balance that made the Pilot Sport PS2 predictable, and easy to control at the limit.
In the wet, the Pilot Sport PS2 also proved to be the fastest, edging out the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 for best average overall lap time. While the Eagle F1 GS-D3 felt slightly more stable around the fast, sweeping curve of the skidpad, the Pilot Sport PS2 offered moderately sharper steering response and good overall driver confidence in the fast transitions of the slalom and hard 90-degree corners around the track.
only problem...$259 a tire
test results...
The Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 Max Performance Summer tire was initially developed for use as Original Equipment on some of the world's most prestigious sports cars and sports sedans by combining world-class wet and dry handling with confident and predictable cornering. Some of the first fitments include the BMW Alpina Z8, Chrysler Crossfire, McLaren SLR and Porsche GT2 and GT3 models.
The Pilot Sport PS2 tire features advances in performance, wear, durability, and comfort thanks to Michelin's patented C3M manufacturing technology, a highly advanced production process that allows for extremely precise placement of a wider variety of tire components than ever before. The Pilot Sport PS2 tread features two different rubber compounds across their treads. A hybrid silica/carbon black compound begins at the tire's outer shoulder and continues across the tread until it joins a high-silica compound that continues to the tire's inside shoulder. Each of these tread compounds is specifically formulated for its location to optimize dry and wet handling for crisp, predictable cornering and increased wear and high-speed durability. Additionally, these high grip tread compounds are molded into an asymmetric design with large outer shoulder blocks along with continuous intermediate and center ribs (similar to that of Michelin's Formula One tires) to enhance steering response and cornering stability. The tread design also features wide circumferential grooves and lateral notches that help channel water through the footprint to enhance wet road traction. On the inside, the tread design is supported by two, high-tensile, lightweight steel cord belts that are further reinforced by size-optimized, precisely placed, individual Aramid/nylon hybrid filaments. These Aramid/nylon hybrid filaments replace the old bands of nylon to bring the Pilot Sport PS2 to a new level of manufacturing and design-tuning precision. This precision allows the Pilot Sport PS2 to provide improved steering response and resistance to distortion while enhancing ride quality and high speed durability.
During the road portion of our evaluation, the Pilot Sport PS2 displayed impressive road manners. The taut feel received high marks for handling by providing crisp steering response, but did cause the Pilot Sport PS2 to feel just a little firmer than the other two Max Performance tires over the sharper bumps and expansion joints. On coarser concrete and asphalt surfaces, the Pilot Sport PS2 generated some additional tread noise, although our team did not find ride comfort and noise levels to be objectionable.
Out on the dry test track, the Pilot Sport PS2 was the clear winner, offering very good handling and turning the fastest average overall lap time of the test. Steering response was sharp without feeling nervous, and felt stable in the higher-speed, sweeping corners. Gone is the gentle understeer of the 1st generation Pilot Sport, giving way to a neutral balance that made the Pilot Sport PS2 predictable, and easy to control at the limit.
In the wet, the Pilot Sport PS2 also proved to be the fastest, edging out the Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 for best average overall lap time. While the Eagle F1 GS-D3 felt slightly more stable around the fast, sweeping curve of the skidpad, the Pilot Sport PS2 offered moderately sharper steering response and good overall driver confidence in the fast transitions of the slalom and hard 90-degree corners around the track.
only problem...$259 a tire
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Don't know about stats but I recently bought the 235/40/18 Nanking NS2s for $400 and they seem to handle better and feel more stable than my old FZ4s!
I recommend them - Dajuice has 'em too, no complaints
I recommend them - Dajuice has 'em too, no complaints
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the Sumitomos and Kumhos are good for the money, but they don't touch the Falken 451's. The Falken 451's are in the S03 territory as far as performance go. For my $$$, I'm going Falken 451's or Kumho MX's next time around....235/40/18 as well.
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I had the Sumi HTR+'s on my TL-S ... wasn't too thrilled w/ them on the Type S...
I now have the Kumho Ecsta ASX's .. love them .. they're all season, and dirt cheap. Go with the Kumho's over the Sumi's .. even Tirerack recommends this. They are quieter by far.
If you're going high end .. then the sky is the limit... Falkens, Michelins, Yokohama...
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kumhos are great.
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at $186 each it is bit expensive. MX are $137 each so there is a saving of $200 here. however, the goodyear will mail a $75 gift certificate cutting the difference to $125
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Originally posted by darrinb
the yoko es100's arent that expensive..
joe, i would drop the car before u got rims
the yoko es100's arent that expensive..
joe, i would drop the car before u got rims
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I'm going to do springs before I do rims, but I am just doing research right now. The rims I want dont come out until end of April anyway, so theres no rush.
edit: Those Michelins cost as much as my wheels, no thanks. :o
edit: Those Michelins cost as much as my wheels, no thanks. :o
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Originally Posted by TL_Type_S
I had the Sumi HTR+'s on my TL-S ... wasn't too thrilled w/ them on the Type S...
I now have the Kumho Ecsta ASX's .. love them .. they're all season, and dirt cheap. Go with the Kumho's over the Sumi's .. even Tirerack recommends this. They are quieter by far.
If you're going high end .. then the sky is the limit... Falkens, Michelins, Yokohama...
what drop is that?
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