I am pretty sure he was modded some because he kept blowing off over and over next to me to get my attention. He was really being an ass. Anyway we ended up side by side at the light and I really want to embarass this guy so...VSA off. I was going to gate shift but figured I probably didn't need to. Light goes green, I spin a little and stay even with him for a second then start to pull. We Shut down just into second gear I have about 1/2 car on him. Roll up to the next light and do it again with similar results. Then he takes off, I follow for a second but back off when we hit traffic, he goes on weaving in and out. What a fool, hope he wonders wtf car just handed his ass to him.

 

nice. with lighter wheels you would've probably seen better results.

nice run though

 

let this be information for the thread about the CLS with headers being able to take a SRT4, Flint is boosted and he raced a modded SRT4 and beat it by 1/2 a car. good kill flint chalk another one up for the CL's!

 

nice kills flint

 

Fuck those Neons.

 

Nice S/C kill!

 

sorry pal, the guy who started this thread has a supercharger with high boost pulley, in addition to his headers and other mods.....this is the only way a CL can hang with a SRT...either that or a truckload of nitrous.

the fact still stands....no CL-S with headers can hang with an SRT-4....sorry to break it to you.

 

Sorry jimcol711, a 03 CL-S 6 speed with headers and icebox can hang with a srt-4, seen it happen 3 times, one right after another from the passenger seat of the CL-S.

 

2003TL-S
The SRT driver couldn't drive then. It's a high 13 sec car STOCK. Was it from a roll or standing start? There was a ton of them at the track last time I went. I ran one. Granted I had no traction cause of my tires. I was only pulling 14.5's he was stock & pulling 13.8's & .9's Face it it's a faster car. So what it doesn't have power rear windows

 

Good race, flint.

Just want to point out to the rest:

First, neon SRT4 is boosted so there is no fair comparison when running against stock or lightly modded CLS. Those fuckers boost about 14psi stock and weigh 3000lbs. Despite the fact 2004+ SRT4 list for 230hp/250tq (stock) they're show more power when dyno. The only credit I'll give to SRt4 is by being a FWD car which more difficult to launch then AWD show off WRX/STI/EVOs.

Try putting 14psi in any 4 cyl. car then brag about it. So for me its never going to be a fair comparison with NA car even with basic mods running against those SRT4/WRX/STI/EVOs unless again CLS is boosted.

 

well hello my fellow wisconsin-ite, i gotta tell ya, fuzzy02CLS is exactly right, if you indeed did see this happen, it was becasuse the SRT driver didnt know how to drive. the SRT-4 puts down more power and ALOT more torque on a dyno than any CL-S with headers/intake/pullies EVER has, not to mention, the SRT-4 weighs hundreds of lbs less, its just simple applied physics and math. the SRT-4, given equal drivers, and equal conditions, will beat a CL-S with headers and intake 100% of the time.

 

lol some people just can't accept the fact that a neon is faster than an acura.

 

I just quote myself:

First, neon SRT4 is boosted so there is no fair comparison when running against stock or lightly modded CLS. Those fuckers boost about 14psi stock and weigh 3000lbs. Despite the fact 2004+ SRT4 list for 230hp/250tq (stock) they're show more power when dyno. The only credit I'll give to SRt4 is by being a FWD car which more difficult to launch then AWD show off WRX/STI/EVOs.

Try putting 14psi in any 4 cyl. car then brag about it. So for me its never going to be a fair comparison with NA car even with basic mods running against those SRT4/WRX/STI/EVOs unless again CLS is boosted.

 

and I quote you also.

I don't understand your point. if the car is faster, its faster. doesn't matter to me why its faster. srt4 is faster than cls, conversation over.

one car vs. another seems a fair enough comparison to me.

 

While stock boosted SRT4 runs usually 13.8 (1/4mile) the CLS6 shows 14 flat (i/h). Due to lighter weight that Neon takes on CLS on start, from the role however the CLS can be minimum even and maximum beat Neon.

 

Expand your horizon.
While stock "BOOSTED" SRT4 is faster then stock or lightly modded "N/A" CLS and nobody dispute that. I pointed out its not a fair to compare FI car against NA car. Get it?

 

no one has ever shown a 14 flat timeslip for a CLS 6 speed with intake and headers...never.

best anyone has ever had around here is about a 14.2

i dunno where you are getting the idea a CL-S with headers and intake can run a 14 flat.

 

nope. why is it 'not fair'?

 

The guy who started this thread apparently claims to have...

http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=130505

 

Eh... I easily beat slightly modded SRT-4's with I/H only!

 

No surprise that this thread went way off course.

Nice kill flint. Keep em coming.

 

even if this is true, which it likely isnt due to the fact that your CL has practically never been even close to stock, youve always had some one-off engine mods (during your little phase of wanting to be "all motor") and now with the crazy turbo setup....but as i was saying, even if this is true, its another simple case of a poor driver at the wheel of the SRT-4.

like ive said, simple math and physics jsut do not allow for a CL-S with only headers and/or intake to beat an SRT-4 until you introduce human driver error.

if car A puts down 10% more hp and 30% more ft lbs on a dyno than car B

and car B weighs an additional few hundred pounds and has a floaty mushy suspension to boot

and both cars are put through 100% identical race tests with 100% identical driver capabilities...


Car B will NEVER win any race

 

WATCH THIS

 

thats a great time, however its about as rare and elusive as the jackalope. an SRT-4 can make 13.8 consistantly with a good driver, a 14.0 CL-S with intake/headers is a fluke

 

no jim, it's not.


there just aren't many people who take their 6mt's to the track.

 

Yes the Neon is faster. I can strap a fast engine to a crappy car any day. Bottom line is that it's still a Neon. If some guy beats me I'll get over it. I'll drive my nicer car all day long and be happy about that.

 

I would take issue with the 'crappy car' description. I think that its actually a very well put together vehicle. Its just too bad they kept the same body as the neon... since they did, I wouldn't take one if it was given to me.

But like you said... the neon will beat me, and I don't give a shit. I'm much happier in my slower cls than a neon, no matter how fast it is.

 

Typical example of excuse.
In previous message you mentioned about SRT4 driver's error when allmotor mentioned he beat it. Now, you contradicting yourself

Based on above examples CLS6 with i/h is capable of running flat 14 same as SRT4 is capable to run 13.8 with the factory settings. Now, if either of the drivers cannot match that time its their problem. I've seen plenty of SRT4 running from 14.5 to 14.2 on the track. Does it mean the car cannot go faster? I hope you know the answer.

 

The only thing I respect in Neon SRT4 is PERFORMANCE.
Now, would I buy that car? No fu<king way

 

exactly

 

Final word people,
stock boosted SRT4 is faster then NA CLS6. So what, again its not a fair comparison between boosted car against NA.

I can't wait when my friend with boosted Accord V6 with 10psi, J32A2 heads/IC/e-Manage will hit the street then it will be a fair comparison between boosted SRT4/WRX/EVO, etc.

 

thers actully quite a few 6 speeds that have gone 14.0 and even 13.9

 

I ran 13.9 with I/H/ and no-exhaust... No more mods, my car was brand new!

 

Nope... NA CLS-6's can run sub 13.5's

 

see, whyd you lie dude? in addition to your headers and intake you had no exhaust....of course you know that helped your time.

 

Can the CLS6 run a flat 14 or sub 14 1/4 mile NA modded? YES
Can the CLS6 run a 15 sec 1/4 mile YES
Can the SRT4 run a 13.8 or .9 sec 1/4 mile YES
Can the SRT4 run a 15 sec 1/4 mile? YES

At the track or on the street it all depends on conditions, driver skill, Tolerances of the cars, & weight of driver.
How much you weigh allmotor?
On paper & on any test machine where things are equal the SRT4 will always be the faster car.

 

you're exception

 

I wouldn't say the SRT-4 can run 13.8 consistantly. I've never see one get better than 14.2 at the track. And, as I've said in previous threads, that were 3 different SRT's, 3 different drivers, about 7-8 runs each = about 21 runs where the BEST they could get was 14.2.

I agree that the CLS "shouldn't" ever win based on numbers but that SRT isn't supposed to be very easy to launch. Magazine racing is pointless.

 

OH YEAH! Nice kill Flint!!! Go HBP!! Damn those 19's!!!

 

thats what i was trying to say