After talking to the BMW dealer I have almost been convinced to go with a 1998 M3 Coupe which includes a 1.5 year warrenty and then a 2 year 50k warrenty after that.
What do you guys think?
What are the drawbacks to the M3?
Thanks
AC

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2001 CL Type S {any day now}
1994 Legend LS Coupe
1990 Accord

 

maintainence, insurance, appeal to law enforcement, price, smaller interior. bitchin car though and bmw is more fun to drive.

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type-s
silver/ebony
35% tint
jl audio 2 10w3's, jl audio 500/1 amp
honda vtx 1800
106hp & 120 ft torque. soon!!!

 

What are the drawbacks to the M3?

other than NONE --- > ---->

Tickets, policemen, jailtime, having plastic surgery from grinning too much

 

The only drawback is high maintenance costs. So far no problems with my baby.

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'99 BMW M3
Dinan Stage II

 

Go with the M3. You won't be sorry.

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dead CL-S and M3

 

Maintenance costs? As the owner of a 99 M3, you should be well aware that all regularly scheduled maintenance is provided at no cost for the first 3 years of ownership, including oil/filter changes.

How long have you had your M3? If you've been paying the dealership for maintenance, you've been getting ripped off.



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dead CL-S and M3

 

If you're talking all out performance the M3 has no drawbacks (with the possible exception of slippery road conditions where the Cl's fwd is an advantage).

Isn't the M3 going to be more expensive? I was looking at 98 328IS's and they were within a few G of what I paid for my CL-S, I had to go back to a 95 or thereabouts M3 before it was in the same price range as the Acura.

Speaking of features/luxury items, there are a *lot* of things the CL has that the Bimmer doesn't: 6 disc in dash CD, steering wheel controls for the stereo, tilt down outside RH mirror, auto dimming inside mirror, glass sunroof, memory seats & outside mirrors, HID headlights. Does the one you're looking at have electric, heated seats & cruise? They were optional, I believe.

Then there's the fact that you'd be buying a 2 year old car (at least, depending on delivery date) that has probably been driven pretty hard and must have a few nicks & scratches and wear on it (how many miles does it have on it BTW?).

Having said all that, if I'd been able to buy a '98 M3 (that wasn't totally thrashed) for even a few grand more than a new CL-S I probably would have gone for it .

SK

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2001 Sundance Gold Type S

 

OK I JUST GOT BACK FROM THE TEST DRIVE, HOLY SHIT!!!
This is most fun I have ever had, I test drove a 1998 M3 Coupe Black on Black with Chrome M3 Wheels, New S02 Pole Position tires, CD Changer, Premium stereo, this baby had everything, With 40K miles, That means with the dealer warranty you get 60K more miles cover. All for $36,900

It drove like a dream even though I hadnt driven a stick in about a year I fit right in with it. WOW.
I think I have decided to go with an M3 rather than a CLS just cause im only 19 so those creature comforts arent too important to me. Plus an M3 would be even better than a CLS when it comes to pimpin the ladies.... Then again my girlfriend might have a problem with that

AC

Any other thoughts, or things I should look out for in the M3??

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2001 CL Type S {any day now}
1994 Legend LS Coupe
1990 Accord

 

AC,

I had a ride with co-worker with his loaded 1997 M3 with a stick . I did not like the ride. It was harsh and noisy! My CLS is way nicer on the HW. If you need to auto cross or race daily than M3 is a good option.

Actually, my firend was all the time dreaming of having my CL-S. His tongue once slipped saying" If I can have your car... whatever..." an now with a CAI his more interested....

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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S.
- Acura NAV.
- 3M clear bra (full front bumper, and side mirros)
- Wheels locks
- Mooonroof visor
- Splash guards
- Winter mats
- Trunk liner
- Acura Spoiler
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator
- HELMS Service Manual
- PIAA 19169 road lamps
- 03/19/01: Injen Polished CAI

 

HUMMMMMMm, the debate continues.......
AC

 

Go for it, like I said, you won't be sorry. But.......

The price seems a bit high. Hell, I'd sell you my 99 M3 with 10K miles for $37,000. Try to talk them down.

Also, have you checked to see if the car was in any accidents? One sure-fire way to tell is to look at the metal stamped plate on each body panel. If they're original parts, they'll have a white background. If they've been replaced(even with original BMW parts), they'll have a yellow background. Check it out.

If it all checks out, then definitely buy it, you'll be smiling ear to ear every time you drive it.

Tom

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dead CL-S and M3

[This message has been edited by Tom2 (edited 03-29-2001).]

 

I plan on getting it as soon as my Legend sells, HOPEFULLY this weekend!!
I agree the price is abit high but I talked to another sales guy and he sayed 34,900 so I figure that is the price to start as, then after bitchin an haggling I can get them down to 32000 and I will be rollin in an M3 !!

AC

 

buy tom's M3..

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01 silver cl-s
k&n air filter
piaa 19169
cannon winter floor mats

 

I'll sell you my '99 M3 with 18K miles for 36,000.

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'99 BMW M3
Dinan Stage II

 

All of u guys say u love your M3s but at the drop of some 30 grand, u all want to see them. U guys are messed up. What would u do then, tom already has a cl-s so he has the best of both worlds, but maddogtx, u have a phat dinen stage 2m3, why get rid of it. How many horses u pumpin now? I love the M3 but i think the ladies, especially my gf love my cl-s better then bmw, its slightly larger and much more room to make out. Especially with the memeory buttons, #2 has become my BJ position.
wg

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The SILVER STREAKER CL-S no navi, spoiler, tint all around, moonroof visor,
indaglo emblom, ACURA.CL.com stickers, eurolights fog lights, bel 950 radar detector, and 2 chamber flowmaster exaust
hyperwhie highbeams and corner lights, and eyeball fogs. 620+ posts makes me still a freak on the old Cl page.
my cl-s http://albums.photopoint.com/j/Album...725&a=11443786

 

shhh, they all want the new m3 hahahah

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Black 2001 Type S
*Eibach Pro-Kit (Waiting to be installed)
*Xephyr Cold Air Intake
*PIAA 19169 Road Lamps
*Rockford 500a2 [FOR SALE]
*Pioneer 12" @ 400w (x2) [FOR SALE]
*77237-SOK-A02
---Still 2 rims not scratched---

 

hey malakas,

I don't want the new M3. Actually, I would only sell my car for a profit to put a down payment on a M5. The CL-S is a beautiful car, but don't mess w/ the M3. As far as cabin space in concerned I prefer to mess around in my house. I don't think it's smart to buy a car you can't afford and end up living in it.

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'99 BMW M3
Dinan Stage II

 

i think the ladies like more an m3 than a cl-s..........except for my cl-s

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2001 cl type s,custom voltage blue paint job, comptech headers, 18 inch ssr agle strusse rims(painted voltage blue with chrome lip), greddy evo exhaust, cross drilled rotors, pioneer avx 7000 tv, playstation2, iceman cold air intake(custom)nos fuel pressure regulator, piaa ion yellow fog lights, slammed on nex suspension (level ten torque converter and b&m tranny cooler)3.5 litre upgrade on april 16!

my old car www.hondatech.org/99acv6ic.html
my cl-s
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1364953&a=11597233

 

Good points by all, but I gotta say im leaning toward the M3, plus making out in a car is soo highschool, thats what my condo is for
AC
I just like the M3,
Pros: Better resale, warranty up to 100K, Fast, Fun to drive, A real Sports Car!
Cons: Small, Expensive to fix (after warranty ends) not as equipt.

CL-S
Pros: New, Fast, Fun car to drive but lacks RWD exsitement, Lots of Goodies.
Cons: Cheeper construction, doesnt hold value as well, no manual!


AC

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2001 CL Type S {any day now}
1994 Legend LS Coupe
1990 Accord

 

If you have an urge for manual... then you'll
kick yourself later if you don't get it.
Have fun while you can... M3!!!!

 

IM SERIOUS......


if you like a the used M3 --> take it to a good mechanic and have him send the engine, trans, rear-end, and other fluids to an analysis service

like the taxi fleets, cop maint., etc do

You will find out if the car has been thrashed

also, have a full leak-down/compression test to check on the state of the pistons, rings, valves, valve seats, and other bits.

If it looks really good on all tests -- your a winner

If it comes back bad -- you just bought some body elses trouble.

Wait for the new kick-ass m3 or get a really well taken care of m3

OR get a NEW CL-S off the truck

 

I agree, but I will only buy an M3 from a Dealer, I went to BMW of Bellevue, Very well know and might be one of the largest dealers just cause of Microsoft being right there. They do all that (supposedly) then tack on a 50K 2 year warranty that takes effect after the stock one runs out. So with that M3 its smooth sailing up to 100K at least... But I better check and make sure they do all that engine checkin stuff, but I bet they do.
AC


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2001 CL Type S {any day now}
1994 Legend LS Coupe
1990 Accord