me 01cls
mods below

him 02 wrx 5-speed
intake uppipe catless turbo back, utec tuned to 17 psi

we raced from a 50 roll, i had a full tank of gas, him 1/2 tank, we each had a passanger

on the 3 honk i pulled a fender on him, then we stayed there till 110 when i dropped out of v-tec and he pulled a fender on me and it stayed that way till 135. we raced 2 times and the same thing happened. i thought it was a pretty good race. it was funny cause he thought he was gonna walk all over me.

 

17psi tuned awd wrx VS. auto fwd cl-s
and it was fender distance

kinda hard to believe

 

well i hear WRX's and EVO's arent that great from a running roll so im gonna give the guy the benefit of the doubt and say good kill bro

 

Ok, umm, what does "AWD" have to do with a rolling start? I'd rather have a RWD car from a roll than an STI, if there's no twisties of course. I heard the AWD cars actaully LOSE power on the higher end because of that. Plus, he didn't say it was an STI, so I guess it's the 227hp Impreza, or something like that.

 

i believe it, a non sti wrx from a roll is not as quick as you would think...

nice run

 

ok, but 17psi of boost against a n/a cl-s ? rolling start or not....

 

Well, how much boost does it run stock? It only makes 227hp and 217 lb/ft of torque and it's all wheel drive.

 

he should put down right around 230 to the wheels. i should do 235-245, depending on temp and such. he is lighter also. if he didn't have such a good tune i would have beat him. the wrx runs 14.2 psi stock. the most you want to run is 16psi because anything over it is out of it's efficency range on the stock turbo. i used to own one with same mods except for utec. and have raced several, this was a good running wrx. did i mention it had altezzas?

 

9-11 PSI. I THINK

 

sorry 9 psi in 1st and 2nd 14.2 in 3rd 4th and 5th

 

AWD has a disadvantage from a roll because of the drivetrain loss. It helps out the most from a stop.

 

wrx's arent that fast from a roll, for all you non believers

Brady good job with the race,

 

And... if you're saying 17 psi vs. NA CL... think about 2.0L vs 3.2L for a second. And I mean, one _nicely_ tuned engine from the factory. Plus mods.

Great kill bro, rep points for the technically knowledgeable.

 

i dont think you can run 17 psi on the stock turbo for the WRX. My brother has a 02 WRX and i think max you can go without switching to a bigger turbo is 15 psi, my brother sucks from a roll 3rd and 4th are usless in his car, race the WRX from a stop then you see what they are supposed to do.

 

you can do up to 18psi before fuel cut with a Utec. and with a FDC(fuel cut defender from HKS) you can run what ever you want. its just not efficent on the stock turbo. and for all you people who say awd sucks from a roll, try fwd automatics. i actually think we have the same or more drivetrain loss than an awd. yes hard to beleive but its true. wheel horse power is wheel horsepower . front rear or awd its all the same. trust me, i know more than most about WRX's

 

i would also like to add that a wrx with these mods is not slow from a roll. if you dont beleive me, go race one. you can run 12's on stock wrx turbos.

 

Yeah, they're not SLOW, but you can see their full potential better from a stop than a rolling start.

 

12's stock wrx turbos?

my friend's '02 WRX with a few mods ran a 13.7


nothing near the "12's" you so claim... where did u get that info

 

www.car-stats.com

Car-Stats.com Report for 2002 Subaru Impreza WRX
Obtained from C&D October, 2001
0-60: 5.4 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.1
1/4 Speed: 96

 

Good run man!

 

just to let you know, I believe he was referring to the STOCK TURBO on the WRX that can be pushed into the 12's...not STOCK WRX'S hitting 12's ...or so I think he meant that?

 

The Quicktime WRX on a STOCK turbo ran a 12.78. Just FYI. And there is only 1 turbo...not "turbos" like you posted.

 

You know jack shit. I got 3 friends running 16 psi daily on the stock TD04L-13G.

 

AWD drivetrain loss is more than FWD cause they have to power all 4 wheels. But thats also taking into account the automatic vs the manual.

The WRXs is a little bit worse...23-25% Vs the CLs ~20% (if you're auto).

 

can our CL's handle that much boost on a stock engine? 15 PSI iw WAYYY to fucking much....

 

ummmmmm.....he means 15psi for the wrx

 

with those mods he should be trapping around 99-102mph. and btw the guy who my brother bought his exhaust from (both have 02 wrx's) ran 11.7x with a up-pipe/dp/e/UR crank pulley/stage 3 clutch/75shot on a stock turbo.

heres a race i posted a while back between my brother and his friend's stock cls. (he was running stock psi, ~14.)

http://acura-cl.com/forums/showthrea...&highlight=wrx

note: the mods we planned on buying buying fell through, the kid sold his car as is(all the parts he was selling to us).

 

wrx's are pigs from a roll. I have seen a 12 second wrx get killed from a roll by a mopar stage 2 srt-4. I have also seen an srt-4 stage 2 kill a stock evo from a roll.

 

Our engines were never intended to handle any boost. If Honda wanted to make a boosted engine, I pretty sure they could get one to handle 15 psi.

 

Our engines were never intended to handle any boost. If Honda wanted to make a boosted engine, I pretty sure they could get one to handle 15 psi.

 

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...tock+turbo+wrx

My friend with up/dp/turboback/intake/pulley/16psi/lighter rims/grounding kit/chimney heat shield/sti scoop is having problems getting into high 12s. Nitrous is NOT going to put him anywhere in the 11s. Who ever told you 11s is full of shit.

**All the while being CATLESS and wrapped in heat wrap**

 

Neijb, or whatever his name is, runs 14psi on his 2.3 CL. Still hasn't blown to my knowledge, and its been a while now. Its the CL tranny that has major issues.

 

its the auto tranny that has issues... FYI neidjb's has 5 speed.

 

First of all like seattle cl-s sed our enigines arent designed internally to handle boost, but they can handle a substantial amount, i think you can run about 6-8psi safely and run like 10psi max, but with that much psi, you have a fast fucking car, soemhting in the 11's for sure

 

on the race!! I want a WRX right now and get rid of my RSX-S.

 

how would he not be close to 11's if hes pushing 320+ awhp? hes the owner of Import Hookup in baltimore, md (his hobby/off-time job, full time job is a loan officer, hes in his late 20's). i dont think he has anything to prove by lying. he was also running hks ems (f-con i think it is) and made the run on drag radials. before nitrous he was running mid-high 12's. he ran the 11.7 back in oct i think, its been a while since we've seen him last... no reason for me to lie either about a guy i hardly know.

 

I highly highly doubt he's in the 11s...unless he's NOT on the stock turbo. Read NASIOC...It just isn't possible to my knowledge. Plus I dunno what kinda dumbass puts DRAG radials on an AWD car. That is horrendous on the drive train. Would snap that shit for sure. I think you got some faulty info.

Mid to high 12s is possible without nitrous...Maybe. But a 75 shot is NOT going to drop a second off to the 11s. Its not like you're dropping a second from 16s to 15s. When you get to the 12s and lower, its alot harder.

 

i could see a wrx dropping a second with a 75 shot, if they had good tranny's. you however would have to spray right out of the hole, and acheive a 1.6 or 1.5 60 ft time. this is also depending on weather and track condidtions. at 90degrees it woudl never happen. but say 50 degrees, you may have a chance.

oh and yes, drag radials on a awd are not needed. 8 second awd cars still use street tires. you do want some spin when doing an effictive awd launch, otherwise: shit breaks!

but the truth, wrx have worse tranny's than auto CLS'. know as the GLASS TRANNY. they were built with an imput shaft that is too long, causing them to naturally break. no matter what style the car is driven(hard or easy) they can break. subaru found a loop hole in this defect because so many people who bought the car did it for two reasons. going fast and and driving hard. i know not everyone did but most. so subaru could void the drivetrain warranty on modded cars because the drivetrain wasn't built to handle more power. saying that the modifaction gave the car more power and the tranny could not handle this. they could also void or partially pay for stock cars saying it was from abuse. now that i have actual documents saying the input shaft is too long on the cars.(which is documented from Subaru(insiders info)) i have hired a lawer to perform a class act law suit. hopefully i can get my money back.

 

I heard of a 12.0 with a 75 shot and exhaust...but he had the dog-gear tranny. But no way with stock gears/tranny.

 

my brother said the guy also has; flywheel/tmic/sti injectors/and header. oh and btw he did blow his tranny, he was getting a different trans (dont know which one) and hks turbo kit (hes an authorized hks dealer & can get it cheap). he is a member on nasioc but rarely posts ill see if my brother can find out if you have any questions for him. drag radials i meant street radials i guess whatever the hell theyre called, he had bf goodrich g-force t/a (same as me)


my oldest brothers friend has a (ive mentioned it alot on here, basically because its the fastest car ive ever been in) fully built 2.5L apu '02 wrx running 22-23 psi on a fp green 20g. on race gas he can run up to 30-35 psi and hes doing it all thorugh his stock trans, hes been waiting for it to blow for a while, which it has yet to do.