**Group Buy- HKS super drager exhaust**

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Old 07-26-2001, 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by Pastrami:
<STRONG>sorry! other more important matters got in the way so i couldn't make it. i'll definitely email you if i'm in after some more consideration.</STRONG>
no prob pastrami sandwich w/ a lil' mustard (damn i get hungry whenever i see your screen name). Just let me know
Old 07-26-2001, 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by JRock:
<STRONG>blxmjx - you know I'm seriously interested, but I need to hear how much money I can get for some old trains I'm trying to sell. If the guy will give me enough money, I'm in for sure. He was supposed to get back to me this week. At the latest, next week.

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Okay J, just let me know. Hmmm, WTF did you do? Hijack a train? what cargo is inside?
Old 07-26-2001, 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by juniorbean:
<STRONG>blxmjx you can count me in if you can verify these things will fit a TL Type-S (which they should b/c they're almost the same). How will Payment be arranged? Paypal? Let me know... thanks!! </STRONG>
JBean, they will definitely fit the TL-type-S and would look waaaaaaaay better than the stock exhaust (you know what i mean). Yeah, most of the out of state guys are goin' the paypal route. Us locals are probably gonna all meet up like a big tupperware party, hey anyone want some amway? J/K
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Originally posted by BusGradCLS:
<STRONG>would they be shipped to each of us directly from HKS or would you get all 10, then ship them urself to us. also, is there ANY HP increase even 2-3 like the Comptech's ? Also, is the muffler attached to the hangar in any way or does it just sit on it?</STRONG>
I tried to go the route where i wouldn't have to ship the exhausts (such a pain in the ass) but its the only way I'd be able to do the deal. So yes I would have to get all the exhausts and either ship or personally deliver them to each person. Luckily the majority of the buyers are local. I don't mind sending them out because UPS is just a phone call away. Yes the muffler is attatched to two hangers just like the stock exhaust. Yes there is a small increase in performance similar to the comptech mufflers.

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Originally posted by blxmjx:
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JBean, they will definitely fit the TL-type-S and would look waaaaaaaay better than the stock exhaust (you know what i mean). Yeah, most of the out of state guys are goin' the paypal route. Us locals are probably gonna all meet up like a big tupperware party, hey anyone want some amway? J/K </STRONG>
Great... I have another question (actually 2), and the first one can be related to my ignorance. If I put these on, will i lose HP because I have more air going out then coming in? Would an intake (or maybe a drop in K&N filter) balance it out?

Second question is, how big are these compared to stock? The CompTech's are nice b/c they're not much bigger. I'm trying to stay away from the "fart pipe" look. Thanks for your help!!
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Originally posted by juniorbean:
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Great... I have another question (actually 2), and the first one can be related to my ignorance. If I put these on, will i lose HP because I have more air going out then coming in? Would an intake (or maybe a drop in K&N filter) balance it out?

Second question is, how big are these compared to stock? The CompTech's are nice b/c they're not much bigger. I'm trying to stay away from the "fart pipe" look. Thanks for your help!! </STRONG>
Since this is only an axle back exhaust and the type-s exhausts are fairly unrestrictive in the first place. You won't be losing too much backpressure. Actually when we dynoed my car with no cai, just the exhaust i had a 6hp improvement.

The tips are substantially bigger than stock but don't have the associated fart pipe look. They fill the rear end up very nicely.
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Originally posted by blxmjx:
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Since this is only an axle back exhaust and the type-s exhausts are fairly unrestrictive in the first place. You won't be losing too much backpressure. Actually when we dynoed my car with no cai, just the exhaust i had a 6hp improvement.

The tips are substantially bigger than stock but don't have the associated fart pipe look. They fill the rear end up very nicely.</STRONG>

Good b/c my fiance would kill me if I wanted to buy an intake right away!!

Out of curiousity.... does anyone have a pic of the CLS from the back with the stock tips (similar to blxmjx's angle) just to compare??

BTW....blxmjx you can put me down as a yes...
Old 07-26-2001, 04:50 PM
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Oh and blxmjx, so you have a pic of your car from further away (from the back and side?). Sorry to be such a pain, I'm just want to get a good idea of what it would look like...

Thanks!!
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Not sure which angle but how bout this angle?
<a href="http://www.no-msg.com/dlew/CL/clrearlower2.jpg">big rear pic</a>
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That's not too bad... I'll open them next to each other. Thanks!!
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sorry the pic is so big, too lazy to make it smaller
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blxmjx: model trains, and the bastard still hasn't called me back with his bid for them yet. As soon as he does I'll know if I can afford the exhaust or not.

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Old 07-27-2001, 11:56 AM
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So blxmjx, no pics from further away?

dlew308... no problem on the size... it give me an idea!!
Old 07-27-2001, 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by juniorbean:
<STRONG>So blxmjx, no pics from further away?

dlew308... no problem on the size... it give me an idea!!</STRONG>
The ones that I had were too small, you couldn't even see the mufflers, I'll take a couple in a lil bit, and i'll post them on this thread, k?
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Originally posted by blxmjx:
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The ones that I had were too small, you couldn't even see the mufflers, I'll take a couple in a lil bit, and i'll post them on this thread, k?</STRONG>
Sounds good to me... sorry to be such a pain. Thanks in advance!!
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I hope i'm not too late, sounds like a very cool deal. E-mail me with the total including shipping & how to pay?
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Okay, Juniorbean. This is the best I could do, its kinda overcast today so its hard to seel the exhausts, that's why i left the pics big.

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blxmjx.... thanks for the pics, looks sweet!!
Old 07-27-2001, 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by Norcal CL-s:
<STRONG>I hope i'm not too late, sounds like a very cool deal. E-mail me with the total including shipping & how to pay?</STRONG>
I tried to email you but your email address is blocked on your profile. Feel free to email me if you are interested.
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Hey did you get the turbo?
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BlxMjx:

I've e-mailed you
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got boost?
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hey i was looking at the HKS site....other than the drager..there's turbo, sport, and HYPER...
i think hyper is like 3"?

do you think you can get those?

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Originally posted by city001:
<STRONG>hey i was looking at the HKS site....other than the drager..there's turbo, sport, and HYPER...
i think hyper is like 3"?

do you think you can get those?

G</STRONG>
G, the only problem is the drager is the only exhaust that will be a direct bolt on fit for our cars. You can purchase the other mufflers in a universal configuration, but you would have to bring it to a muffler shop to get it welded on.
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Hey blxmjx - sorry buddy but I'm going to have to take a raincheck on this whole exhaust buy. The guy hasn't gotten back to me about the trains, and I don't really know that I want the louder exhaust just yet.

Thanks though, for getting us this group buy. I appreciate that.

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BlxMjx-You've got email!...if you need someone to fill in for JROCK let me know...pace
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Hey Arnold, I'm STILL IN!!!
In fact, I'm "chomping at the bit"!!!
Can't wait until we can meet up next weekend!
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Any updates?
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I'll keep you guys abreast of any updates via email, this thread has gotten ridiculously long. I'm picking up the exhausts either tomorrow or tuesday, I will then send out an email to you guys.

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Originally posted by Ogolden1:
<STRONG>Hey Arnold, I'm STILL IN!!!
In fact, I'm "chomping at the bit"!!!
Can't wait until we can meet up next weekend!</STRONG>
Yeah.... I'm chomping at the bit too, especially since I just picked up my car today!!
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Is the exhaust legal? what if cops wanna give you ticket to you for the exhuast ? Is there something to prove that the exhuast is legal?
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Any news yet...I dont know how much longer I can wait..haha...thanks
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Old 08-03-2001, 04:36 AM
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I'll give you guys an email update in the morning. My hotmail account is acting funky right now.
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So did you pick them up yesterday?
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warehouse mix up...stay tuned
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Any news on finding the exhaust at a different warehouse...blxmjx did you get my email? thanks in advance
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ya i got your email still working on it. i'll have word by today.
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