I'm new to this board, just recently switched over from clubtsx. anyway, i was reading about different suspension set-ups, drama with tein coilovers, etc. i just found that H&R developed coilovers for the tsx and i became very curious. i have a friend who has his 325i set up with the H&R cup kit and it handles real sweet on and off the track. anyone have experience with H&R products or their coilovers, specifically?

thanks all.

 

Had H&R on my IS300. Nice ride. Heard good things about the coilovers as well. Not too sure about what drama you are talkin about with the TEIN's. You're car is never gonna ride like it does today when you touch that suspension.

 

i was reading that the tein's were producing a lot of cabin noise. maybe it was an installation issue. i'm a novice at this so i'm still trying to figure it out.

i did take my car out to the Buttonwillow race track last year. I thought my ride performed real well with the stock set up. my only complaints were brakes and a bit of dipping of the front end into corners. i got bit by the mod bug at that point.

 

Ive had both
H&R coilovers and H&R cupkit

and I can Honestly say they are Excellent!!

Perfect amount of damping and rebound
Coils can make your car sit in the weeds

Having said that, Ive heard issues of Struts bending with the Cup kit..

 

the HR coilovers have been said to be to soft ...not sure about cupkits thou...

 

Questions with pix




1. In the first pic, approximately how high/low in the thread do I have to put the spring seat in order to lower it ~2inches?

2. In the second pic, yellow bumper stop moves up and down if I kinda force it a bit. Is the bumper stop suppose to be sitting at the end of the thicker tube(in red)?

3. What's the function/location of the washer in after assembled?

4. When installed, do I have to use spring compressor to shorten the spring to drop the car a bit more or can I just do it w/o compressing the spring?

5. Is Lower ride=more preloaded springs?

Can ne1 help me out?

 

#1 Ask where you bought it
#2 You will be able to tell this when you take off your stock set, as it will be the same....bumpstop sits @ the top.
#3 Again, look at the stock set-up and you will have your answers.
#4 Not when it's installed, all you have to do is turn the lower spring seat.
#5 Yes, because you change the length of the whole coil-over. Other sets allow you to screw in the bottom without changing the compression of the actual spring. See Tein flex where the bottom is screwed in to change height without adding pre-load.

 

ebell, let me know how your install goes.

 

^ Sure
I'll try to take as many pictures as possible, too.

Thanks TodaSi!!!

 

So, you installed them correct? Where is the write-up?

 

One last question,

Top strut nut which I have to tighten with hex wrench inserted, do I have to screw all the way in? I don't think I did all the way, b/c I was scared I;d just break the plastic insert. If so, can I tighten it without taking it out from the car? (I don't see why not)?

(i'll try to do a write up soon)

 

so, just attempted the diy h&r coilover install.

installed the fronts, and they seem to be ok.

went to the rears, and spent over an hour trying, and just could not get the NUT, FLANGE (10MM) (#24).



so now i'm running a 1 finger drop up front, and oem spec rear, with the left rear clunking because i was able to get the nut loose, but not out.

there are signs of rust on the nuts and threads, but, doesn't look like it's to the point of total seizure.

any advise?

 

I removed # 32 instead of the one suggested from the a spec install guide.

When I went to a shop, he didn't use a hex but held on to the 7/9 area with a somekind of a locking wrench and used impact wrench to unscrew/screw the nuts.

Somekind of lub can help that can penetrate the rust can help also.

Remember, you dno't have to remove this if you can manage to get the shocks out. I only had to loosen it to get it out/in.

 

thanks.

 

I do hear sometimes a metallic noise from the rear-right side, so yesterday I checked to see if something is loose.
Everything seem to be ok (the camber kit, the stabilizer bar ,...)
But, I noticed something abnormal ... the rear-right spring doesn't seat tight on the strut .
I can move the spring, a little bit up and down along the strut, just by hand ( I have to use a little force to do that, but it's possible).
I checked the other pillars of suspension and there I can NOT move the spring at all.

So my guess, this should be source of the noise ?
I think this has not been installed properly ? Am i right ? What could be wrong ?

Something else, can someone please translate me (like you do it for a newbie) the following two statements:
1. "the washer on top of the front bump is with 10 mm bore (like the piston rod pin)"
2. "The rear should be adjusted to a height of 265 to 290 mm" - how do you measure this ? (is it the distance on the strut, from the bottom to the spring ) ?

 

I am guessing the #2 is talking about the length of th spring (top to bottom of the springs).
I'm gonna try to measure this tomorrow.

Was this in a some kind of installation guide?

Do you have e-version of it? I'd like to see the rest of the guide

 

It's not a guide, I emailed H&R and ask them about this , they told me those things.
I took my car to the workshop, they checked the suspension, and they say that everything is fine .
I checked everything else, the camber kit, the stabilizer bar, and others ... everything seems to be installed ok.

Still don't know where that noise is coming from (maybe something else) ?

 

Generally question , regarding coil overs:
I've just noticed, my rear-left suspension is a few "mm" lower on the left side than the rear-right side, is this normal ?


The A distance is the same but the B distance is not, is this normal ?

 

It's definitely normal if it's a few mm.

Even stock differs left from right.

Did you get the problem solved?

I think my shock is seized, or over-stiffened. I contacted H&R and see where it leads.

I am going to a garage to confirm this and eliminate other possibilities.

 

I just started exchanging the email with Josh from H&R.
I'll try to talk to the shop I bought the co from.

Just to make sure,
is it normal for them to be labeled to be "Honda Accord" even in North America?

On the Rear shocks:
24 60 452-1/1
Honda Accord
Rear threaded
shock absorber
Made in Germany

On the Rear Spring
29251-....

On the Front Spring:
29251-1-VA(F)

which are the labels for Honda Accord in Europe.

 

Contacted H&R also and asked them about that one rear side a few mm lower than the other side and they say like you said, that is normal.

I've interchanged a few days ago, the rear suspension left with right ... no strange noises so far but I'll keep watching this.

So far I see no problem with my H&R coils - everything looks normal but I'll test it more to make sure.

Your TSX and my Accord share the same suspension - so don't worry it's branded H&R - the coils are for both CL7 and CL9.

How come your shock to be seized or over-stiffened ?