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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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Redlight Equals.....

What cars can we hang with from stoplight and what cars would hand us our ass? I saw a thread on the TL forum about who they can beat at a redlight race, and who they should avoid racing to avoid embarassment. Thought it would be interesting to pose this question here. They had a good list of cars, from e36 m3s to G35 AWDs, that they believed they could hang with.

Now this goes without saying, but I'm a firm believer that the TSX is a driver's car, rather than a drag racer. But I know most of us can't deny they've tested its acceleration from a stoplight. And yes, I know street racing is stupid.

So what cars would be a good race, what cars would we lose to? Opinions or actual stoplight kills/losses - whaddya think?
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 01:20 AM
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Well i had a good race with an old accord. Not sure what was under the hood. I know it had intake and exhaust tho. On top of that i had four people in my car, but good race, still lost all in all. For the first 50 feet we could beat WRX. We could beat 92 explorers with an intake. Any one ever race an RSX? If so howd it go?
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AirJordan23922
For the first 50 feet we could beat WRX.
Really? I thought they had a big time traction advantage w/ AWD? They don't really scare me at speed however.
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 02:57 AM
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Did not hang with a tC, but it had CAI but so did i.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 07:37 AM
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Let's see. From my past racing experiences:

Mazda 6 V6: Go.

Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V: Go.

Nissan Maxima Pre 2003 : Go.

Honda Prelude Pre 1998: Go.

Civic SI (EP3): Go.

Toyota Matrix XRS: Go.

Toyota Corolla XRS: Go.

Chrysler 300C: No-go.

Chevy Camaro 400ci: No-go.

Any V8 Mustangs: No-go.

Porsche 911 GT3: No-go.

Cadillac CTS 3.6: No-go.

Acura CLS : No-go.

I'm sure I've raced other cars I forget about, but those are the ones that I remember the most of.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 08:04 AM
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Don't mess with 7th generation V6 Accords either.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 09:24 AM
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- Porshe 911
- Supra TT
- BMW M3 (E46)
- Camaro SS

Oh -- you mean in my TSX? I thought for one minute that you were talking about the time I got to drive a Ferrari F355....

Although I haven't "run" these cars head-to-head, I would think they would be close to an equal in the 1/4 mile...
- Prelude (last generation)
- Integra (DC2) GSR
- B18B swapped hatchcraps

And just curious, does anyone know how we'd do against a 04/05 TL 5AT?
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by humperdood
Don't mess with 7th generation V6 Accords either.
I'm not so sure of that. I'm still trying to convince my Dad to bring it to the tracks, he has an 05 LX V6. I'd like to see it settled.

I wouldn't try against a 6MT though.

Black_6spd, we're no match against a 2004+ TL, regardless of the tranny.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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I'm not so sure of that. I'm still trying to convince my Dad to bring it to the tracks, he has an 05 LX V6. I'd like to see it settled.

I wouldn't try against a 6MT though.

Black_6spd, we're no match against a 2004+ TL, regardless of the tranny.
I remember when I spanked my overconfident co-worker's auto Accord V6 (last gen) with my Integra. It wasn't even a race...

Thanks for the tip on the TL. I won't embarass myself against my sister-in-law's 05 5AT. She keeps talking smack on how she would smoke my 6-MT TSX. I figured the factors against her (auto, no launch, most likely to keep VSA on, woman driver, etc) I'd have a chance.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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What cars can we hang with from stoplight and what cars would hand us our ass? I saw a thread on the TL forum about who they can beat at a redlight race, and who they should avoid racing to avoid embarassment. Thought it would be interesting to pose this question here. They had a good list of cars, from e36 m3s to G35 AWDs, that they believed they could hang with.

Now this goes without saying, but I'm a firm believer that the TSX is a driver's car, rather than a drag racer. But I know most of us can't deny they've tested its acceleration from a stoplight. And yes, I know street racing is stupid.

So what cars would be a good race, what cars would we lose to? Opinions or actual stoplight kills/losses - whaddya think?
You have an automatic tsx?
Avoid racing anyone if possible, you will only embarassed yourself.

Manual TSX, with a very2 good driver skill (ex: sauceman) you should be able to take/even up with any mid 15 sec cars.

If you're stock manual TSX with a mere good driving skill, read my first paragraph's second line.

No flame intended, just giving some realistic outside perspective.
I saw tons of manual TSX with all kinds of bolt ons(i/h/e, hondata) only run at best around low 15 with average driver
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted_2gz
Manual TSX, with a very2 good driver skill (ex: sauceman)
That's flattering and all, but I don't believe that's so true. I have no idea where I stand, I have no credentials, no racing school background, no nothing. I'd expect anyone to be able to do just as well with some practice.
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted_2gz
You have an automatic tsx?
Avoid racing anyone if possible, you will only embarassed yourself.
Depends though....its always fun to put an auto e39 525/528 auto in its place esp. when the guy is a prick.


Originally Posted by Boosted_2gz
Manual TSX, with a very2 good driver skill (ex: sauceman) you should be able to take/even up with any mid 15 sec cars.

If you're stock manual TSX with a mere good driving skill, read my first paragraph's second line.

No flame intended, just giving some realistic outside perspective.
I saw tons of manual TSX with all kinds of bolt ons(i/h/e, hondata) only run at best around low 15 with average driver
No flame taken.....the point is what cars we can hang with rather than 1/4 times, so we won't embarrass ourselves. The TSX is a slow car in the quarter considering what is 'quick' nowadays.

Maybe I should have named this thread 'Know thy enemies'??
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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is the AT trasnmission really that slow?? wouldnt a good driver on at be able to antecpiate when to shift and be able to shift sooner... tho i know our gears are taller that could be the issue... i know wheni wanna shift right at the fuel cutoff w.o actually hitting it i hafta acutally move the shifter about 300 400 rpm earlier....
so wouldnt antecipaited shifts account for this?
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by AirJordan23922
For the first 50 feet we could beat WRX. We could beat 92 explorers with an intake.
Are you sure about that? Did you race one and was it a RS instead of WRX?
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Old Sep 6, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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I don't do much street racing anymore but the few ones I have are:
Focus SVT.
BMW 328CI
Hung with a few STOCK wrxs and RSX-S.

I try not to pay attention to those that are not in TSX's class
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by CarbonGray Earl
Depends though....its always fun to put an auto e39 525/528 auto in its place esp. when the guy is a prick.




No flame taken.....the point is what cars we can hang with rather than 1/4 times, so we won't embarrass ourselves. The TSX is a slow car in the quarter considering what is 'quick' nowadays.

Maybe I should have named this thread 'Know thy enemies'??
My co worker (auto TSX) raced my roomate's manual celica GT (exhaust and intake), the TSX lost by 1 - 2 cars length by the time the celica hit 70ish.

Its probably the most surprising result Ive ever seen,
but Im sure you get the idea...

Im pretty sure that you did not buy the TSX purely for its performance?
The TSX has the best interior and ride quality given the price (it is even better than my IS300). So imo you should stop worrying about being faster than the rest, and just be satisfied with what you have.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Boosted_2gz
My co worker (auto TSX) raced my roomate's manual celica GT (exhaust and intake), the TSX lost by 1 - 2 cars length by the time the celica hit 70ish.

Its probably the most surprising result Ive ever seen,
but Im sure you get the idea...

Im pretty sure that you did not buy the TSX purely for its performance?
The TSX has the best interior and ride quality given the price (it is even better than my IS300). So imo you should stop worrying about being faster than the rest, and just be satisfied with what you have.
Knowing CarbonEarl personally, I highly doubt he is "worried" or has a complex about not being fast (he happens to have a teg for that purpose). Most of us have bought the TSX for refinement -- not drag racing. Otherwise, we'd just get an LS-1 or Dodge Magnum w/ hemi.

Since most of us are past the age of dumping the clutch at every stoplight, our curiousity only makes it to the message boards sometimes.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Black_6spd
Since most of us are past the age of dumping the clutch at every stoplight, our curiousity only makes it to the message boards sometimes.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_6spd
Since most of us are past the age of dumping the clutch at every stoplight, our curiousity only makes it to the message boards sometimes.
x2

After getting/having 2 wheels, I learned fairly quickly that 4 wheels is usually very slow.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Boosted_2gz
My co worker (auto TSX) raced my roomate's manual celica GT (exhaust and intake), the TSX lost by 1 - 2 cars length by the time the celica hit 70ish.

Its probably the most surprising result Ive ever seen,
but Im sure you get the idea...

Im pretty sure that you did not buy the TSX purely for its performance?
The TSX has the best interior and ride quality given the price (it is even better than my IS300). So imo you should stop worrying about being faster than the rest, and just be satisfied with what you have.
You're missing the point, 2gz, this thread is not about me nor do I have any unrealistic expectations about the TSX's acceleration. This is not the first car I have driven, and it isn't even close to the quickest car I have driven.

At its simplest, the question I pose is what can the TSX beat or hang with, and its a question posed to the forum, not a personal conundrum.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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KILLED!!!

-Police interceptor V8, supercharged by Ford with police package...wait.. the car even had a light and sirens on top of it..

my bad..(it was my co worker) he, on duty, me. off duty... told him not to stop me from going home asap!!!!!
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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Blew a TSX away the other day in my FX!
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 11:45 AM
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No it was a WRX, because we pulled up to the light and discussed what we had under the hood, and i told him i know im about to get raped, but he said hell do it anyway. So we went andi was ahead for like 50 feet and then his turbo spooled up and all i saw was his tail lights about a 1/4 mile in front of me lol.(exagerating). All in all he won.
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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Would be rather interesting to race a WRX on the highway, afaik, WRXs are mainly geared for 1/4 quarter-mile performance....
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Old Sep 8, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by HoRRo
Would be rather interesting to race a WRX on the highway, afaik, WRXs are mainly geared for 1/4 quarter-mile performance....
If they beat the TSX hands down on a 1/4 mile, they'll do the same on the highway.
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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RSX base - Go
Celica GT - Go
Prelude 1998-2001 - Go
Volvo S70 T5 - No-go
Mustang 5.0 - No-go
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