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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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5000 RPM Perfect Launch

i was reading baravian autosport (BMW mag) and i noticed about how the poeple who own m3s and such get perfect launches by just holding down the gas pedel. the car supposedly stops the rev point at 5000 to get a perfect launch. Naturally, i went to my TSX and held down the gas pedel. It stops at 5000 too!! But i have an AT.... has anyone with an MT tried this before???
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Launching? =/
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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How's the result after you launch with your at tsx?

Does it work well?
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 03:40 PM
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By the way did you put it in neutral and rev up to 5000 and then put it into drive?
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 03:57 PM
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i didnt do it becuase i have an auto
thats why i was asking someone with an MT to try it...
actually when you put it in to sportshifter mode does it start on neutral or does it start on 1st (I would try it myself, but mi dad took my car)
and if i put the car in neutral then changed to 1st woudn't it damage something....
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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There's a 5000 rpm limit on the engine when it is not under load so you don't blow it up. It's not launch control!
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by cybereclipse
i didnt do it becuase i have an auto
thats why i was asking someone with an MT to try it...
actually when you put it in to sportshifter mode does it start on neutral or does it start on 1st (I would try it myself, but mi dad took my car)
and if i put the car in neutral then changed to 1st woudn't it damage something....
I dont need to crank it that high to get a good launch. 3k, 3.5k is a good match. Anything higher and the revs just drop off...

Here's two launches of mine, check the second run:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3AeQnI-ao
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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woah i seen that before on youtube, but i never thought that ther user was on acurazine

sweet!!!!
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
I dont need to crank it that high to get a good launch. 3k, 3.5k is a good match. Anything higher and the revs just drop off...

Here's two launches of mine, check the second run:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3AeQnI-ao
That was a pretty good run there. What was that 6.5 - 7 seconds?
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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so has anyone with an MT tried it yt??
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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It's different. M3s have launch control built into the software. When you hold the TSX gas pedal, it bounces off at 4500rpm, while with the M3, it HOVERS at 5000rpm.

Plus, the M3 has more traction, so a launch control program will work. The TSX being FWD will just struggle for grip when you are giving it full gas if the road conditions aren't perfect.

BTW, if you have an auto, there is sort of a "trick" to launch. It will wear your clutch pack slightly though. You stop the car and put it in 1st or D (depending on your preference), hold your brakes with your left foot and apply light gas with your right. The RPM should go up to around 1500-2000rpm. Then release the brakes and floor it down at the same time. You'll get a better launch than if you just planted the gas pedal down alone.
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 10:11 PM
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It's different. M3s have launch control built into the software. When you hold the TSX gas pedal, it bounces off at 4500rpm, while with the M3, it HOVERS at 5000rpm.

Plus, the M3 has more traction, so a launch control program will work. The TSX being FWD will just struggle for grip when you are giving it full gas if the road conditions aren't perfect.

BTW, if you have an auto, there is sort of a "trick" to launch. It will wear your clutch pack slightly though. You stop the car and put it in 1st or D (depending on your preference), hold your brakes with your left foot and apply light gas with your right. The RPM should go up to around 1500-2000rpm. Then release the brakes and floor it down at the same time. You'll get a better launch than if you just planted the gas pedal down alone.
I did that today while i was racing a friend tC, i found it faster if you floor it at a dead stop.
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
I dont need to crank it that high to get a good launch. 3k, 3.5k is a good match. Anything higher and the revs just drop off...

Here's two launches of mine, check the second run:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa3AeQnI-ao
holy shit...how do u shift like that??? I shift like a grandma with my MT and I get owned by minivans all the time at a red light. Damn....I wish I can drive my car the way it was made to be driven...ARGH!
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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My TSX has a 4500 RPM rev limiter when I'm not underway--either clutch in or gearbox in neutral.

Also, the throttle programming seems completely different when the clutch is depressed--response is more sluggish and much less sensitive than with the clutch out.
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 11:31 PM
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Launching the TSX at high rpm induces wheel hops which can hurt time. I usually just feather the clutch at lower rpm during launch.
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Old Sep 24, 2006 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cybereclipse
i didnt do it becuase i have an auto
thats why i was asking someone with an MT to try it...
actually when you put it in to sportshifter mode does it start on neutral or does it start on 1st (I would try it myself, but mi dad took my car)
and if i put the car in neutral then changed to 1st woudn't it damage something....
I cant say on the TSX for sure but my TL wouldnt go into neutral while in sportshift, my grandpas E430 though you can put it into neutral while in sportshift and launch like that, although I would expect that to be bad on the car.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by cybereclipse
i didnt do it becuase i have an auto
thats why i was asking someone with an MT to try it...
actually when you put it in to sportshifter mode does it start on neutral or does it start on 1st (I would try it myself, but mi dad took my car)
and if i put the car in neutral then changed to 1st woudn't it damage something....
In sportsshift, it starts in 1st.

If you put it in neutral and dump into 1st, you WILL DAMAGE your gearbox.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 02:43 AM
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by aaronng
In sportsshift, it starts in 1st.

If you put it in neutral and dump into 1st, you WILL DAMAGE your gearbox.
In before they lock this thread...

"Wish I had a stupid answer for your stupid question..."

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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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holy shit...how do u shift like that??? I shift like a grandma with my MT and I get owned by minivans all the time at a red light. Damn....I wish I can drive my car the way it was made to be driven...ARGH!
Its all timing. When you depress the clutch you want to come out of gear at the exact same time. In fact, you should be in the next gear before the pedal gets to the floor. This way, you can get off the clutch quickly, and you're right in the next gear and on the gas. You have to be firm yet gentle with the shifter though, you dont want to get to rough with it.

You can practice this without driving the car. Just keep the car off and go through this process.
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Old Sep 25, 2006 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by JTso
Launching the TSX at high rpm induces wheel hops which can hurt time. I usually just feather the clutch at lower rpm during launch.
I agree.
I tried it at the track and the wheel hop was a killer, best was to hold it at around 3500-4000.
a friend of mine has a EP3 CTR and his car bounces as something like 5500-6000rpm and he launches like that, his best time to date is 13.8sec, on slicks with fujitsubo exhaust and a high flow cat(or a test pipe canīt remember)
so it works on the civic but I donīt know maybe we need more power so that it will just spin the tires and not start the wheel hoppin?

anyway I would love to be able to launch a little higher, and be rid of the wheel hop
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