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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Wheel spin when it's raining

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When i am driving under a rainy condition, my car has some wheel spins even though the VSA is on. Especially when i am making a right or left turn from a still position. For all cases, i just accelerate to about 2500 rpm (maximum). I'm wondering whether my VSA is working or out.
Is it normal? Have anybody experienced this kind of situation before?
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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your vsa's working fine, to tell the truth id be more upset if the TSX couldnt get some wheel spin , its a 4 cyl but its gotta have some torque, all ur dealing w/ is a temporary loss of traction from rest
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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Yes, even with VSA wet roads will cause wheels to spin. MT and SS will cause more spin...
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Old Dec 7, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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yup i have experienced it.. i have an auto and i still get wheel spin...
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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The wheel will spin about 1/4th around before VSA kicks in.

This is by design.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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Get some better traction tires than the crappy stock choices. Hard rubber and "all season" tires are fine for grandma putzing around and for tire life but not for traction.
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Old Dec 8, 2004 | 09:43 AM
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even though the stock tires should have a pritty long life (mine didnt)
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Old Dec 11, 2004 | 09:11 AM
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the stock tires are indeed the culprit. Those tires hop really easily, even if you're not really "gunning it" per se.
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Old Dec 12, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris55
Hi everyone,

When i am driving under a rainy condition, my car has some wheel spins even though the VSA is on. Especially when i am making a right or left turn from a still position. For all cases, i just accelerate to about 2500 rpm (maximum). I'm wondering whether my VSA is working or out.
Is it normal? Have anybody experienced this kind of situation before?
There's a definite difference between wheel hop and wheel spin. Watching for cops, try gunning it around those same corners with VSA on and then off. It should feel very different.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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If you sense wheel hop, I'd suggest backing off the throttle immediately. Even hard core drag race setups are not unbreakable when it comes to wheel hop causing broken differential parts.

With wheel hop your tire literally bounces up and down on the tarmac which causes serious stress on parts. Wheel spin is harmless for the most part except it wears out tires.
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Old Dec 13, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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I've noticed my wheels spin a couple of times on wet roads when I try to accelerate and turn from a standing stop. It seems like it spins and then stops and then I guess the other tire catches and the car finally moves forward. This is with an automatic with VSA on.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by o_nate
I've noticed my wheels spin a couple of times on wet roads when I try to accelerate and turn from a standing stop. It seems like it spins and then stops and then I guess the other tire catches and the car finally moves forward. This is with an automatic with VSA on.
Nope. It spins, VSA pulls back on the throttle and/or applies the brake to stop wheel spen, and then you go.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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If you step on the gas and the wheel spins and keeps spinning then either your VSA is off or there is a problem with the VSA. With VSA you should be able to keep your foot on the gas and the VSA will automatically reduce engine power or apply brakes to reduce the slipping.

Originally Posted by Acura Website
Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) adds side-slip control to the ABS and traction control. It works by controlling brake pressure, engine power or both to help maintain traction. Even if you take no action, VSA will reduce engine power and/or apply the brakes to reduce front or rear side-slip. The traction control component of VSA® uses sensors that monitor the front wheels and computer-controlled modulation of engine power and front brakes to help prevent wheel spin when starting out or accelerating. If the sensors detect excessive front-wheel spin during acceleration, the traction control function automatically closes a secondary throttle valve until wheel spin stops. This helps the TSX maintain traction during acceleration and helps the driver retain steering control, even when accelerating on slippery surfaces.
IMHO the stock tires are the main culprit for the wheel spin, or you have a lead foot. Look to get better performance tires to reduce your wheel spin. I just can't beleive that the stock tires are listed at $183 USD (tirerack).

EDIT: Added the traction control component description.
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Old Dec 14, 2004 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris55
Hi everyone,

When i am driving under a rainy condition, my car has some wheel spins even though the VSA is on. Especially when i am making a right or left turn from a still position. For all cases, i just accelerate to about 2500 rpm (maximum). I'm wondering whether my VSA is working or out.
Is it normal? Have anybody experienced this kind of situation before?
You are demonstrating that the TSX does have some torque. You're just accelerating too much for the level of grip that you have - if you keep on the gas and the VSA doesn't kick in to kill the power, then you've got a problem. Otherwise, you're fine.
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