Well, my brake saga is now officially over. I recently moved across country and found an Acura dealer that recognized my brake problems and was able to fix them correctly. No more 're-surfacing' for me. Acura of North Scottsdale was able to give me new brakes, (pads and rotors), since the car had numerous brake issues.

I'm very happy with the quality of the new brakes.

 

rb1 is bang on. I've learned this on other forums for other cars and was going to post it as well but RB1 has got in nailed. Basically don't let anybody turn your rotors when doing the brakes. if they are warped, replace them. Also bed your brakes properly, I didn't read the link but assume it covers the concept.

 

Also reading more posts...... a couple of things come to mind:

- people are taking about resurfacing the rotors. Let's be clear here, they are turning the rotors or in other words, removing a small layer of the surface by turning it.

- it sounds like the issue is the pads not the rotors (from the acticle above.

- as the dealers keep turning your rotors and not fixing the problem, they are creating an issue for you in the future in that you will run out of surface area.

I'd try after market pads and forget about Acura and their warranty. your brakes aren't really covered under warrenty anyway.

 

Right , thats what tov said also.. bad pads leaving crap on rotor.. once i got my free rotor, i went and got hawk hps... its been great so far for 1k.. can't tell till another 9k... my rotor develop these warpage symptons around 10-11k...

 

Just to add to my warped brake rotor issue.... When I took the car in I told them I thought it was the rotors since it only shook when I hit the brakes. I was very nice to them and asked in advance for a loaner car. When I got there I told them I wanted to drive a TL loaner since I was interested in them. After they found out I might upgrade vehicles(even though I don't ever plan to) they were more than accomidating. I think they wanted to show me that the Acura warranty is all that.

So my advice for getting your warpped rotors fixed is to take it in for warranty work and act like you're gonna upgrade to a TL and get a TL loaner. They might treat you better if they think you want to spend more money there.

 

good one.. hopefully i wont need to do that next time..

 

Its almost time for my 20,000 tune-up and my car does the same thing. I have an 05 w/ like 18 almost 19,000 miles on it. I hope they do mine under warranty. If not, how much do you think it would run?

 

Same thing with me getting my 30,000 mile service this week. I have this problem with the steering wheel shaking when braking, a driver side rattle, and sometimes on a few occassions the car is hard to start.

 

I took my car to the dealer for pulsating brake pedal when doing hard braking. Diagnosis - warped rotors and excessive run out. Dealer tried to re-surface but it didn't cure the problem so they replaced the front and rear rotors and brake pads.

Im now at 24k miles and this is the second time that the rotors and brake pads were replaced. First time at 17k miles, it was only the front rotors. Anyways, I am now considering aftermarket brake pads like some of you guys have already done.

I must say that I am very pleased with the service of Acura of Serramonte. They have been very accomodating with taking care of all the issues I have with the car.

 

Just get some racing brake rotors that are in the group buy in the black market section now and call it a day.

 

Man..... sounds bad but glad to see I am not the only one with this issue. Now I can confidently insist the dealer fix this issue. My '06 only has 8k and it has a very bad shake at braking over 60.

Thanks!

 

I recently got powerslot rotors and hawk pads for the front, no shakes ever and great braking power.

240 shipped from tsxparts

 

Just drive up to 60, and then brake hard down to 10mph. Release the brake pedal and drive normally for about 3-5 minutes to cool down. When at the lights, don't press the brake pedal. Use P if you have a 5AT or use partial handbrake if you have a 6MT. Worked for my brake disc "warpage". It was only deposits, not warpage. You only warp if it you brake hard, drive through a huge puddle and cause uneven cooling of the discs (or if you are an idiot who pours water on their discs to cool it down).

 

I have the same problem and the dealer said (over the phone) that it was the way I drive, that the rotors needed to be cut and that it wasn't under warranty. I only have 13k and my old POS Jetta VR6 never did that!

 

It's a problem of the pads. The stock pads for the TSX and AUDM Accord Euro are just plain bad. The pads of the older models never left deposits this easily.

 

The dealers in Orlando Suck. They will not change this out under warranty. Fountain Acura is the dealer that I bought the car from and they told me that it was going to be arund 170 bucks if they found that the rotors were warped. They said becaust the car had over 12k on it. This is the same dealer that would not align my car because I had aftermarket springs on it. They also said that the rattle that was coming from the back of my car and the few inside rattles I had were due to my car being lowered. I havent taken it back since. this was the third time I had taken it back for rattle issues and am tired of dealing with them.

 

Don't want to sound like an ass, but they aren't obligated at this point to fix the disc issue, it is their choice. We are all pretty certain here is it brake material left on it. Some have said a few hard stops will clean it off or you could take it somewhere to have the disc surface clean with a scotchbright pad.

As for your alignment issue, well, you did lower the car and they shouldn't warranty fix that.

I call BS on the rattles though. If it coming from the front A pillar, there is a TSB and tell them it happened before you lowered the car and it has never been resolved. However, they could still argue back.

I suggest finding another dealership, if possilbe, and tell them how unsatisfied you were with this dealership. They may be willing to work with you on this stuff in order to get your business.

 

I understand that they are not obligated to fix any issues that deal with me lowering my car and I understand them not fixing the warped issue under warranty. The thing I dont like though is they way they talk down to me after seeing that my car is lowered. Right now it sits just half an inch lower than it would with the factory A-Spec suspension and I beleive that the spring rates are also comparable. Thats really why I say they suck. I will try cleaning the disc with a scotchbright pad and the hardstops. I do plan on upgrading the rotors and pads in the next few months. I have read the TSB on the window molding on the A-piller but I dont think that the rattle I have is coming from there, I did find that the inserts that fit behind the door handles tend to vibrate so I have put some dynamat on the back side of them so they fit snug. There is still one that I cant find in the front passanger area, it may be the A-Piller I dont know. I just got the camber kit back from Ingalls, they put new bushings in them free of charge cause mine were dry rot and poping out. So the car has been on Jack stands in my garage for 2 weeks but that gave me time to install the comptech header and the Injen CAI. Its nice to drive it again.

 

i replaced my front rotors and pads with Rotora slotted rotors and Hawk brake pads...and the braking is now buttery smooth. the difference is just night and day.

 

FYI,

Acura has now issued a TSB addressing the "warped rotor" phenomenon. I've posted it in our FAQ Section but here is a direct link to TSB 07-021. I'm a little disappointed. Its nice that they have acknowledged that this is a widespread problem but it seems they haven't addressed the true cause of it (i.e. the poor OEM pads). IMHO the solution of turning the rotors and replacing the pads will only eliminate the symptom but will not eliminate the problem from recurring.

I firmly believe, as do many others, that the crappy OEM pads are the problem. Driving style (or, rather, braking style) does play into it but its the pads that are prone to transfer material to the rotor. I had hoped that Acura would recognize this and revise/change the pad materials to eliminate this problem. However, it seems that their solution, according to this TSB, is to turn the rotor (which will remove the deposits) and install new OEM pads (which will just as surely reapply new deposits).

 

I agree completely! Just dump the OEM pads and replace them with a set of Hawks or such and go about your business. If you're having the dealer do the work simply bring them the new pads and get it done for labor charge only.

 

Unless they change the compound of th pads, or just get them from another source, there's really not much else they can do. They certainly arent going to buy aftermarket pads for people.

 

No they won't, but they should switch suppliers or something. Of all the other cars I've driven in my life, I've never had even one that had the brake problems the TSX has. And I drive the same as I did in all the other cars as well, so it's not my "braking style"....lol.

 

That's exactly what I was hoping for.

 

Although I like my 2004 TSX, the brakes have been a definite issue with this car. Had my rotors resurfaced and pads replaced twice under warranty. Had to do battle with the Acura Service Manager both times concerning this issue. His statement was that "Normal wear and tear of the Brake system are not covered under your Acura warranty". However each time after they repaired the brakes the symtoms returned after about 20,000 miles. At this time the car is vibrating while braking again. Since Acura can't / won't fix it I will obtain aftermarket Rotors and Pads and repair it myself.

 

can someone tell me if I have wrapped rotor?
when I'm breaking on down hill(50~60mph) i hear loud vibrating noise(wawawawawa), only happens when going down hill though
when i apply break on flat doing 50~60mhz I hear high pitch hissing sound

i got about 10000 miles on it 06

 

^^ You would notice warped rotors (or pad deposits on your rotors) any time you brake, whether its uphill, downhill, or flat.

 

what do you mean when you say "warped "?
as in the rotor is curved?

 

Yes. When a rotor is warped it will not rotate about its axis in a straight line. As you apply brakes and the brake pads come closer to the surface of the rotor a warped rotor will first make intermittent contact with the brake pad. As the brake pad continues to exert pressure on the rotor the pressure will not be consistent. You will feel this in the steering wheel as a vibration/pulsing. If the rotor is not warped but there are uneven pad deposits on the rotor then the same thing happens as with a warped rotor.

 

They will resurface rotors under warranty, but they will not replace the pads. My 05 TSX has already gone through one rotor resurfacing (warranty), and two complete front brake jobs (pads and rotor resurfacing). I have 32,000 miles on it. I also had a REAR complete brake job at 29000 miles. There must be better quality pads and rotors out there. The OEM stuff is junk.

 

It seems to me that the rotor problems have little to do with driving style. I'm pretty sure if we took a poll, we would find that most people with warped rotors have not had this problem in previous cars. Counting all the cars I have owned over the years (not mentioning how many years, but there have been a lot of cars), I have had only two with rotor problems. A 1980 Honda Accord and my wife's 2004 TSX.

 

hi guys...i just got the car back from the dealer...told them of the brake concerns....and told them that they keep acting in the same manner and they said...

"customer states brakes squeek when stopping...glazed rotors...inspected all brake components including pads and rotors...all good"

what does that even mean..it sounds like they didnt do a thing for the car!!!!

 

I'm out of warranty have 65,000 miles on my 2004 TSX and this will be my first front brake replacement. Based on all I've red about rotors, I would also like to replace them both
with the new rotors.
I'm going to DIY.
Any suggestion on aftermarket rotors which are better then OEM ?
Also, can some one give a step by step instruction on how to remove a front rotors, with a pictures if it is possible ?
Thanks in advance.

 

If I was upgrading, I'd go with the Racingbrake rotors and Hawk HPS pads that Marcus (MrHeeltoe) is offering. Check out this thread: https://acurazine.com/forums/sponsored-sales-group-buys-10/racingbrake-front-rear-up-rotors-packages-deals-inside-344787/

 

according to the direct link pdf, http://photos.imageevent.com/astrobo...sb/B07-021.pdf

it says "the normal warranty applies". so does that mean for this issue no matter what they must perform this service free of charge if you're still under warranty?

 

Hi guys-

I just got new tires today- I finally ditched the OEM tires at 34K miles and moved to the Bridgestone Potenza RE960 Pole Positions. Great handling now, of course, but suddenly I have the "shudder when slowing from 60 MPH" problem. I never had it before, or if it was there, for some reason I didn't notice it with the stock tires. Now it's VERY obvious- it's almost difficult to hold onto the steering wheel. Does anyone think this could be due to a balancing/mounting issue with the new tires?

 

I think my rotors are warped as well. My ccar shakes a little when coming off the highway, and it screeches at different times while im driving. Im taking it to the mechanic today. i heard that you could just turn the rotors over so lets see what happens. But Acura told me they would resurface my rotors , put new brake pads and lube everything up for 290.00 plus tax

 

well i just took my car to the mechanic and he looked at my pads n rotors and they appear to be fine. So i still got the screeching noise and the small vibration when slowing down..

ANY SUGGESTIONS?!?!?!

 

Hi guys-

I have an update on my 'pulsating brakes' issue (see my post above). I took my car back to Discount Tire the next morning and they rebalanced the tires again. Turns out one was off by 0.25 oz and the other by 0.5 oz- I don't know how they missed that the first time, but regardless, it was a 10-minute no-hassle visit. The rebalancing made a huge difference, although yesterday I noted the pulsing again when braking on an exit ramp. I will continue to monitor the situation. At my next service interval I will ask Acura to rework the brakes under that TSB. I suspect that the new, firmer aftermarket tires I have may have made previously unobjectionable rotor warping much more obvious versus with the stock tires.

Maybe I'll put a set of rotors & pads on my Christmas list, but it's tough to justify when the car is still under warranty!

Jeff

 

Just for clarification, using aftermarket rotors or pads voids your warranty? That seems kind of strange. Can someone clarify?