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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 04:45 PM
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Sluggish Acceleration

Has anyone noticed a sluggish acceleration? My car sometimes is a little jerky when I try to accelerate from a coasting speed. Usually any speed under 40 mph. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated. The car is an 05 auto. w/70000 miles.

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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ggarding
Has anyone noticed a sluggish acceleration? My car sometimes is a little jerky when I try to accelerate from a coasting speed. Usually any speed under 40 mph. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated. The car is an 05 auto. w/70000 miles.

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Sluggish acceleration is the hallmark of our drive-by-wire cars unfortunately. You'll notice on the auto that the shift from 1 to 2 takes quite awhile and can be jerky. There isn't really anything you can do about it.
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Thank you,

It feels like the car wants to cut out sometimes during acceleration at lower speeds, especially in stop and go traffic. Somewhat of a sluggish response. Is this really from drive-by-wire? Can it be fixed. It only happens once in awhile.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 09:55 AM
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Are you in SportShift mode when you try to accelerate? If not are you applying enough throttle during acceleration for the transmission to downshift?
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 10:40 AM
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Yes, I am applying enough throttle, but some time it feels like its not responding. Almost as if the fuel is being cutoff. Only lasts a second then is smooth. It only happens once in awhile. I really don't know how to explain it. It's just not smooth, a little choppy. Dealer says they will note it. Still have 35000 miles of warranty left.
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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are you sure it's not just the transmission downshifting?
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 09:50 PM
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Traction problem? Did you notice any VSA lights coming on?
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 11:49 PM
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Try this: Add a can of injector cleaner to your gas. Then, find an open road where it is safe to get up to 65 MPH, shift into SS mode, and push the throttle to the floorboard and do not upshift until 7,000 RPM's -- in other words, let iVTEC activate. Do this for a total of 6, or more, times.

If you suspect that water could have gotten into your fuel system (a common source is gas stations), then there are chemicals that can help remove small amounts of it.

If no improvement, then have the dealer replace the spark plugs and carefully look for any signs of ignition leakage (arching) while replacing the plugs. Also, check fuel pump pressure.

It is very likely low fuel pressure, plugs that are fouled, water in the fuel, or weak ignition -- often caused by arching or leakage. It could also be value clearances being too large and not allowing the values to open fully -- particularly for a car with 70k miles. However, you would likely hear some value clatter; especially when the engine is cold.

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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ggarding
Has anyone noticed a sluggish acceleration? My car sometimes is a little jerky when I try to accelerate from a coasting speed. Usually any speed under 40 mph. Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated. The car is an 05 auto. w/70000 miles.
OP may also be encountering the fuel cutoff feature, in which (IIRC) if the car is coasting, or decelerating, fuel is not being pumped to the injectors (other than to keep the engine running). I might have this wrong, it's something I read from the techies on this board, and one of the contributing factors to the TSX' good mileage.

There could be a second or sub-second delay if you're coasting and then stomping on the gas. I've gotten in the habit of putting a little pressure on the accelerator before putting a lot and downshifting ("left 'n down, zoom" mode).
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 11:10 AM
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There is no discernible delay going from the fuel cutoff/coasting mode back to acceleration in my 6mt. There is a noticeable shudder from the off to on throttle transition that comes from the drive by wire throttles lack of delicacy at very low throttle opening states. I suspect the mush of the AT stifles this somewhat compared to the mechanically linked MT. There is a very slight change in engine sound when the fuel cuts off. It will only do it after a second or two of coasting downhill with your foot off the gas. You have to be above a certain RPM too, somewhere around 2000 RPMs.
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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I bet it doesn't do it if you drive in SS mode down-shifting yourself as needed
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 02:57 PM
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no, it downshifts fine. just a little choppy during acceleration. Only for a split second. Almost a little juttery
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 03:00 PM
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Could it be the torque convertor?
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Changed Tranny fluid, but once in a while it feels a little jerky from a rolling start. Almost like there is no throttle responce. No check engine lights come on. Any ideas what it could be?
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 02:06 PM
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Did you just get the car and hence not used to how it drives, or have you had it a while and it just started doing this?
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 02:10 PM
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Did you just get the car and hence not used to how it drives, or have you had it a while and it just started doing this?
I had it for 3 years. Just started noticing this around 60,000 miles. Dealer says everything checks out fine. Could it be a bad valve adjustment service? I had that done at 60,000.
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Old Apr 2, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ggarding
I had it for 3 years. Just started noticing this around 60,000 miles. Dealer says everything checks out fine. Could it be a bad valve adjustment service? I had that done at 60,000.
Ah, ok. I was just trying to clear up whether or not it was the jerky drive-by-wire or something else. It seems to be something else since it just started doing it and you're used to the car and how it drives normally.
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Old Apr 3, 2009 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ggarding
I had it for 3 years. Just started noticing this around 60,000 miles. Dealer says everything checks out fine. Could it be a bad valve adjustment service? I had that done at 60,000.
A bad valve adjustment will cause tapping noise if too much gap/clearance between valves and cam. Too tight of a clearance will cause eratic idling.

Try a quick ecu reset. unplug battery for 1000 seconds
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Old Apr 4, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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I have this problem on mine also, it's completely random and happens more commonly when the AC is running. I have the 6 speed manual though
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:46 AM
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I have this problem on mine also, it's completely random and happens more commonly when the AC is running. I have the 6 speed manual though
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I need to know what this is. The car is jumpy.
It feels like a timing problem. I upon initial take off, I let the clutch go & for a brief second its bogged down then it scoots...While cruising If I apply a little gas then it goes then it feels like the fuel is cut, then it goes again. If I try to keep it @ a consistant RPMs, it ever so slightly jerks. Like the engine is missing a cylinder. Its not drastic. But its annoying.

Im running Mobile 1 0w-30, honda filter, Stage 1 organic.

What I have done in attempt to correct this problem, Techtron, I changed my spark plugs, swapped out my oil, cleaned my K&N filter charger, Checked the secondary box to primary box tube, (it was upside down) fixed that, & unplugged the battery to reset the ECU. Nothing.
Still sputters/jumps/feels bogged down until I step on it, then I get a smooth acceleration.

Acura wants $112 to diagnose. Im gonna be pissed if I pay that & the engine doesnt throw a code, & even more pissed if the code is something expensive.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 11:16 AM
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That is exactly how my car feels. slight jerkiness and a sense that the fuel is getting cut off.

Originally Posted by CJ Majesty
Werd!

2004 6-Spd Approx 95K
I need to know what this is. The car is jumpy.
It feels like a timing problem. I upon initial take off, I let the clutch go & for a brief second its bogged down then it scoots...While cruising If I apply a little gas then it goes then it feels like the fuel is cut, then it goes again. If I try to keep it @ a consistant RPMs, it ever so slightly jerks. Like the engine is missing a cylinder. Its not drastic. But its annoying.

Im running Mobile 1 0w-30, honda filter, Stage 1 organic.

What I have done in attempt to correct this problem, Techtron, I changed my spark plugs, swapped out my oil, cleaned my K&N filter charger, Checked the secondary box to primary box tube, (it was upside down) fixed that, & unplugged the battery to reset the ECU. Nothing.
Still sputters/jumps/feels bogged down until I step on it, then I get a smooth acceleration.

Acura wants $112 to diagnose. Im gonna be pissed if I pay that & the engine doesnt throw a code, & even more pissed if the code is something expensive.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ Majesty
Werd!

2004 6-Spd Approx 95K
I need to know what this is. The car is jumpy.
It feels like a timing problem. I upon initial take off, I let the clutch go & for a brief second its bogged down then it scoots...While cruising If I apply a little gas then it goes then it feels like the fuel is cut, then it goes again. If I try to keep it @ a consistant RPMs, it ever so slightly jerks. Like the engine is missing a cylinder. Its not drastic. But its annoying.

Im running Mobile 1 0w-30, honda filter, Stage 1 organic.

What I have done in attempt to correct this problem, Techtron, I changed my spark plugs, swapped out my oil, cleaned my K&N filter charger, Checked the secondary box to primary box tube, (it was upside down) fixed that, & unplugged the battery to reset the ECU. Nothing.
Still sputters/jumps/feels bogged down until I step on it, then I get a smooth acceleration.

Acura wants $112 to diagnose. Im gonna be pissed if I pay that & the engine doesnt throw a code, & even more pissed if the code is something expensive.
That's exactly what goes on sometimes with mine. People riding along would criticize my clutch and i just counter with, "yah, it's this friggin drive-by-wire."

They look at me like im kidding.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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same here once or twice i have an 08 but my prob is really only the 1st to 2nd shift~ i have an auto
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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I have hit this too with the AV6, from what I can tell it is the DBW and ECU where for almost a split second from when you mash the throttle and the TB opens before the ECU regonizies it and reacts.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by NVA-AV6
I have hit this too with the AV6, from what I can tell it is the DBW and ECU where for almost a split second from when you mash the throttle and the TB opens before the ECU regonizies it and reacts.
Is this normal. It does not happen all the time. I have an automatic. I never noticed it until the car hit 60k and I had a valve adjustment. Can it be fixed?

It's the jerky non-smooth acceleration from a rolling start that gets annoying.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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I too am still working on pin pointing the exact cause myself, Honda has been absolutly no help. Right now I am trying a new MAP sensor to see if maybe it is the map sensor that sticks a little and is not reporting to the ecu correct data immediatly. So far 300 miles without a re-occurance.
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NVA-AV6
I too am still working on pin pointing the exact cause myself, Honda has been absolutly no help. Right now I am trying a new MAP sensor to see if maybe it is the map sensor that sticks a little and is not reporting to the ecu correct data immediatly. So far 300 miles without a re-occurance.
What's a MAP sensor? How much does it cost? Easy to install?

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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ggarding
What's a MAP sensor? How much does it cost? Easy to install?

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MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor,mesures the amount of vacume in the manifold and is the primary source of engine load data for the ECU telling it that it needs to give more fuel, ect...

It is right on top of the throttle body and is held on by one screw, most online places have them for around $55.
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Old Apr 13, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by NVA-AV6
MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor,mesures the amount of vacume in the manifold and is the primary source of engine load data for the ECU telling it that it needs to give more fuel, ect...

It is right on top of the throttle body and is held on by one screw, most online places have them for around $55.

If my MAP sensor was bad, wouldn't the check engine light come on?
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ggarding
If my MAP sensor was bad, wouldn't the check engine light come on?
Only if it was dead, this is where it is just "lazy or sticky or slow to respond".
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Old Apr 29, 2009 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NVA-AV6
Only if it was dead, this is where it is just "lazy or sticky or slow to respond".
Thank you
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no, it downshifts fine. just a little choppy during acceleration. Only for a split second. Almost a little juttery
I going through the same thing right now, I’m going to try the fuel injector cleaner, see how it goes. Did you find out the fix yet
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Old Oct 3, 2024 | 06:34 AM
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I going through the same thing right now, I’m going to try the fuel injector cleaner, see how it goes. Did you find out the fix yet
Long shot but give the procedure at https://acurazine.com/how-tos/a/acur...letely%20reset. a try.
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Old Dec 20, 2024 | 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by CJ Majesty
Werd!

2004 6-Spd Approx 95K
I need to know what this is. The car is jumpy.
It feels like a timing problem. I upon initial take off, I let the clutch go & for a brief second its bogged down then it scoots...While cruising If I apply a little gas then it goes then it feels like the fuel is cut, then it goes again. If I try to keep it @ a consistant RPMs, it ever so slightly jerks. Like the engine is missing a cylinder. Its not drastic. But its annoying.

Im running Mobile 1 0w-30, honda filter, Stage 1 organic.

What I have done in attempt to correct this problem, Techtron, I changed my spark plugs, swapped out my oil, cleaned my K&N filter charger, Checked the secondary box to primary box tube, (it was upside down) fixed that, & unplugged the battery to reset the ECU. Nothing.
Still sputters/jumps/feels bogged down until I step on it, then I get a smooth acceleration.

Acura wants $112 to diagnose. Im gonna be pissed if I pay that & the engine doesnt throw a code, & even more pissed if the code is something expensive.

Damn I remember this thread. So back in 2009 I replaced the T.P.S. Throttle positioning sensor to get rid of this problem. If I recall correctly it resides close to to the firewall on the passenger side, was 156.00 USD (Back then) and took about a 1/2 and hour to install. Problem Solved
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