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Old 01-28-2010, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Moose Muscles
all of my buttons light up except the right (passenger) map light and seat heater button.

So essentially I can see everything on my side, but on my passengers side you can accidentally turn on the seat warmer if you dont pay attention and if you had to read a map you would have to smash the sh** out of the map light a few times before it came on...

04 AT bought with 80,XXX miles in june 09
I have have an 04' tsx, bought it with 119,000 mi about the same time. Right heater light was never working and the driver side light wasnt either.

HOWEVER, magically while driving on the freeway, the light turned on and has been working ever since.
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My '04 Just did this last week. 127K miles. Bought it April 11th, 2003 so I'm SOL on mileage, but under in years by a month. I'm making an appointment and I'll let everyone know what my damage is :/
Old 02-04-2010, 05:36 AM
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04 with 58k on it here. Lights have blinked off intermittently for the last couple of years, but as of this morning I think they have finally given up the ghost completely. I have a good dealership (bought the car there) and a relationship with the service manager. I am going to call him later today (with TSB in hand) and see if I can get the fix done soon.
Old 02-05-2010, 02:59 PM
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04 with 86K...i bought the car with 68K on it, until i saw the DIY dash light change on another site i didnt know half of that stuff lit up...

another note, my dome light on the passenger side works when it feels like it. if i press it most of the time nothing happens...

these are all things of course the dealer never mentioned.
Old 02-06-2010, 12:45 PM
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85 K on a 04 tsx, nothing yet..
Old 02-07-2010, 09:35 AM
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04 with 96k... Purchased in 2009 with 80k. According to the service records, they replaced the audio unit 03/2004 with 8900 miles.
Old 02-11-2010, 01:44 AM
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Console circuit board

I just got my 04 TSX with the navi back from Acura dealer today; dash lights around radio and navi had been fading in and out, so they replaced under warranty even at the 107000 I have on the car. And as an added bonus they washed and waxed it for free...sweet!
Old 02-12-2010, 05:14 PM
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i'm SOL on the mileage, but OK on years also (bought Dec 03) ... it's goes in and out when my car first starts so i guess i'll wait til it completely fails or give it til September or so.
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I have a '05 and my lights are going off on my centre console now , intermitten , navi screen stays on. 106XXX km's about 63000 miles. Just wondering if any '05 tsx owner are having this problem also?
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Angry

The day has come @ 116,000 miles -lights out!

Has anyone repaired this themselves? What is the difficulty rating for this fix? Any pointers?

Thanks.
Old 05-16-2010, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ucizhunee721
i'm SOL on the mileage, but OK on years also (bought Dec 03) ... it's goes in and out when my car first starts so i guess i'll wait til it completely fails or give it til September or so.
Um, I think it is whatever comes first, meaning if you are over 105,000 miles, you are out of the warranty. Even if you car is under 7 years old.
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2005 TSX , the 1st one Acura has heard about in the '05's. I have completely lost all my center console lights now. 108000 km's.
Old 05-16-2010, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiDelt
2005 TSX , the 1st one Acura has heard about in the '05's. I have completely lost all my center console lights now. 108000 km's.
Man, it completely sucks, the interior is so dark now driving at night -minus the lights from the dash. They should just cover this repair or exclude the mileage, this is totally a time related issue.

Good luck. You could pay for them to do, I am looking into replacing it myself once I get some free time. Doesn't look too hard and part is about $40 US + plus an hour or so to install.

BTW, have you ruled out everything? Make sure it isn't a fuse, all your lights are gone? Do the buttons light up (A/C, recirculate) Can you still see the radio under daylight (just dim and hard to see)?
Old 05-17-2010, 10:42 AM
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Yup, I finally got the bug

It finally happened to me this past weekend. Bought 09/24/03, VIN 14424, 64K miles. I'm just under the 7 year limit on the extended warranty, so I'll be calling the dealer today to request a fix.
Old 05-18-2010, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by snailspeed
Man, it completely sucks, the interior is so dark now driving at night -minus the lights from the dash. They should just cover this repair or exclude the mileage, this is totally a time related issue.

Good luck. You could pay for them to do, I am looking into replacing it myself once I get some free time. Doesn't look too hard and part is about $40 US + plus an hour or so to install.

BTW, have you ruled out everything? Make sure it isn't a fuse, all your lights are gone? Do the buttons light up (A/C, recirculate) Can you still see the radio under daylight (just dim and hard to see)?
When i press the buttons the light comes on. I have the Navi, but up top on the little message board I can see the clock and radio under bright light. So what does this all mean?
Old 05-20-2010, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by PhiDelt
When i press the buttons the light comes on. I have the Navi, but up top on the little message board I can see the clock and radio under bright light. So what does this all mean?
Yep, sounds like you need the PCB replaced on the radio. I need to get that done. Honda says that if everything is functioning (radio/CD/HVAC) and you have a dim display then that is the Dx for the issue.

I have nav too and that is the only thing saving me, I can see the radio stations on screen. Let me PM you the TSB maybe you should try to have the dealer fix it, if you are under the 105,000 miles. Wouldn't hurt to ask since that is the warranty for the 04s, but to fix it yourself doesn't look too hard.
Old 05-20-2010, 11:17 PM
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I have talked to Acura about my '05 having this problem and they noted on my file. But said I was s**t out of luck with them fixing under that TSB. If in the future they would reimburse me.
Old 08-02-2010, 10:25 AM
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Just purchased an '04 w/ 142k, non-navi and my Radio/HVAC lights are out as well as my driver's side heated seat button. Was there ever a DIY for this or replacement part #?
Old 10-02-2010, 12:40 PM
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04 no navi. bought it with 90k and the A/C and radio controls were already not working, along with the driver's seat heater switch light.
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Originally Posted by orbitup
04 no navi. bought it with 90k and the A/C and radio controls were already not working, along with the driver's seat heater switch light.
Go to the dealer, the extended the lights issue with the center console (a/c, radio) are to 105k miles.

Good luck with that.
Old 10-06-2010, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by snailspeed
Go to the dealer, the extended the lights issue with the center console (a/c, radio) are to 105k miles.

Good luck with that.
It's got 120k now, so I guess I'm out of luck.
Old 10-06-2010, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by orbitup
It's got 120k now, so I guess I'm out of luck.
Go anyway and if they say you're SOL, ask for goodwill. Tell them you just bought the car.
Old 10-06-2010, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LuvMyTSX
Go anyway and if they say you're SOL, ask for goodwill. Tell them you just bought the car.
Ok, I have to take it for the power steering hose recall anyway. Even though I replaced that about a year ago.
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Originally Posted by orbitup
Ok, I have to take it for the power steering hose recall anyway. Even though I replaced that about a year ago.
If that doesn't work, it is pretty straight forward to replace. I was over mileage, but I just bought the PCB board and swapped it out. Board was about $150, my labor...priceless. Really took me only about 3 hours, bitch to take off the trimming without damaging it. Nevertheless, medium skill. If you need the TSB with part number I have it. I bought mine from hondapartsunlimited cheaper than the other site by ~20-30 bucks.

Really replace it! Makes the car feel brand new!
Old 02-06-2011, 12:56 AM
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Anyobdy know how much is the fix ?
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Original owner of '04 no nav. Center stack went dark yesterday @ 103,000 miles.
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I just bought 04 TSX @161,200 miles. I have the same issue. The Console display is too dim to see anything.
Old 07-21-2011, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by I.H.
I just bought 04 TSX @161,200 miles. I have the same issue. The Console display is too dim to see anything.

Too dim? Have you tried to adjust it? I think most people on this thread is completely out, no light at all.
Old 09-16-2011, 11:36 AM
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My 04 (non-navi) had the lights in the shifter go out at 80,961 miles. Cost $140.31 to have the bulbs replaced.
Old 09-27-2011, 03:22 PM
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05 (navi) with 50,000 miles had the seat heater lights go out last winter.
Old 01-29-2012, 01:21 PM
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I posted the following message earlier today in another thread, and I decided it'd probably be a good idea to also post it here -- in what I must be the biggest thread about this problem. I'm wondering how many other people have kept their TSX long enough, and been unlucky enough, for this problem to occur twice.

The center-stack display on my '04 went dark for the second time about a month ago. I was at about 112,000 miles, so the warranty extension for this problem no longer applied.
Through my local dealership I sought goodwill assistance from Acura, and I was granted a 50% assist. The charge for the fix -- replacing a printed circuit board -- was about $220, so I paid about $110. I certainly wasn't happy about having to pay anything, this malfunction being so common that Acura acknowledged it by extending the warranty for it, but I would have paid full price and then some to revive the center-stack display. Not having the clock, not knowing what station the radio is tuned to, and not knowing what the HVAC settings are aren't things I could get used to.
To anyone living with a dark center stack: I'd certainly recommend seeking goodwill assistance, if you haven't done it already.
(FYI, I've owned my '04 (NHB, MT) since it was new (October 2003), and I'm at about 113,400 miles. The center stack went dark the first time in November 2006, when the car had 41,000 miles on it. My assumption back then was that the problem had been fully figured out and that only "good" circuit boards were being put in to fix cars with dark displays. I guess I was wrong about that, but at least circuit board #2 lasted much longer than circuit board #1 -- 71,000 miles versus 41,000 miles. I'm not sure how long I'll keep this car -- it might be a lot longer; I like it that much -- but I pray that circuit board #3 will never go bad.)
Old 02-21-2012, 11:26 AM
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Just got my car 3 months ago

I just got my 04 TSX w/o navi in November, love the car but this lights are very annoying my car just turn 100k miles a few weeks ago & I'm going to the dealer to get this fix ASAP
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climate control lights

I read through the whole threads and I am still asking myself a few questions can anyone answer....

04 acura tsx 137.000 miles non navi

My question is: My climate control lights are the only ones I can not see when lights are on at night and as well as the radio button lights..but I can see the radio display well but I remember it dimmed with the climate control lights is this the same problem everyone posted about? Because my confusion became when folks said they could not see the radio display but maybe that is a navi thing..Mine is fine but the climate control and the buttons for changing disc etc are not illuminating like before..

If so can someone pm me the part number and a little or any help would be great......
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Hey Guys,

Im going through the exact same problem. 2004 Acura TSX, 120,000 miles. I know im SOL with the recall.

1. Statement from ACURA regarding the recall:

Campaign - Audio-A/C Display Warranty Extension
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04-021

February 5, 2008

Applies To:
2004 TSX - ALL

Warranty Extension: Audio-HVAC Display Is Dim or Dark (Supersedes 04-021, dated January 23, 2007, to update the information marked by asterisks)

BACKGROUND

NOTE : Because of a class action settlement, the warranty extension coverage for the audio unit display on 2004 TSXs purchased or leased between April 13, 2002, and November 7, 2006, is now 7 years or 105,000 miles, whichever occurs first. For more information, refer to Service Bulletin 06-050, Warranty Extension: Vehicle Warranty Mileage.
In some audio units, a component failure on the PCB (printed circuit board) could cause the audio display to become dark or dim and prevent the audio/HVAC panel buttons from illuminating. On vehicles with navigation systems, this condition does not affect the display, but the navigation panel buttons do not illuminate.

To ensure that clients have adequate warranty coverage for this potential problem, Acura is increasing the warranty on the audio unit display to 7 years or 100,000 miles, whichever occurs first. For other defects the standard 4 years or 50,000 miles warranty applies, whichever occurs first.

CLIENT NOTIFICATION

Owners of affected vehicles received a notification of this warranty extension. An example of the client notification is at the end of this service bulletin.

CORRECTIVE ACTION

If confirmed by your diagnosis, replace the PCB (printed circuit board) inside the audio unit. The PCB core must be returned for credit.

PARTS INFORMATION

Printed Circuit Board (without navigation system)/N 3917A-SEC-A01RM

Printed Circuit Board (with navigation system)/N 3917A-SEC-A51RM

TOOL INFORMATION

PCB Tool Kit: P/N 07AAZ-SDAA170

(The kit includes an ESD/anti-static mat, a wrist strap, five colored markers, and a screw container.)

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WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION

Failed Part: Use the RM part number (from the repair order) without RM. Example: 3917A-SEC-A01 Defect Code: 5DYOO Symptom Code: Q3300 Skill Level: Repair Technicia


2. Then we have the part number: 3917A-SEC-A01RM (this is without navi)

3. Now I just want to know how to replace it by myself. I found this PDF which shows instructions on how to install the PCB (printed circuit Board). However, it doesnt tell us how to install it from scratch (meaning how to take it out from the car). Please let me know if you would like me to Email you the PDF.

Can anyone guide me with the installation process? Thank you.
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Add me to the list. 04 Navi with 98,000 miles. Looks like I missed the extended warranty. For those who replaced the PCB themselves, can you share your experience? How difficult is to remove the panels. I didn't really see a DIY on how to remove trims around the Navi and radio. I'd like to replace it myself to save a little bit of money.

How much did it cost from the dealer.
Old 10-22-2012, 01:05 PM
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Mine went out much later at 7+ years and 120k or so. Acura would only give me the parts for free and I would have to pay the "under warranty" labor cost of $400. I decided it was not worth it for some backlights.
Old 10-24-2012, 12:25 PM
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NO problem with lights on console, just one of the overhead lights.
2004 TSX 250,000 + miles.
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After the entire year of not having center console lights, tonight, on my way to work they blipped on! Of course, the temp outside was 45°F. They stayed on until i turned off my car/lights to get a coffee at 7-11. I knew they wouldn't turn back on and i was right. They didn't.

What i noticed is that when it is cold out, they do work. The PCB doesn't overheat as fast im assuming...
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Ha, they work now...been constant for the past few nights. Of course, it's been under 50°F as well.





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Bought my 04 AT NAV back in June this year and it already had the center console lights out. The car had 157K miles so definitely not gonna argue for a TSB :P

Planning to get a PCB soon.


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