Help guys.....

My 05 TSX has approximately 44,000 km on it and I recently found a few oil drops in the guarage. When I look under neith, I found there is oil leaking and the drop is coming down from the edge of the engine cover which basically blocking my view to see where exactly the leak is. Have anyone of you guys have the same problem? If so, was it fixed under warranty??


Any comments is appreciated.

Thanks,

Tom

 

Did you recently change the oil? If so, there could be some old oil that didn't get cleaned up after the change.

 

nope.... the oil change was done at least 2-3 mths ago.......

 

who does your oil changes? you or dealer? i had a similar problem but it happened about 1mons after oil change, the monkey at the dealership decided to use an air gun to put the oil pan drain plug back on and stripped the threads, oil was leaking through the plug...

dealer had to change the whole oil pan to resolve the issue...

 

I had changed the oil a couple of time recently.... the first time was in Feb and was done by the dealer.... then the more recent one was after 4K km and which was done by my machanic. My own machanic said may be a problem on the gasket. I will bring my babe in to let him take a look but I just wonder whether you guys have the same experience........

 

just FYI for you the oil pan gasket is not your typical gasket...it's a liquid gasket/sealant

 

Does the leak on it cause problem to the engine/performance??

 

Without a picture I'm not 100%, but is sounds like you're saying that it's coming from the cylinder head/valve cover gasket. The cover that says iVETC is blocking your view? Does it look like it's leaking from under a bolt near the top of the cover or lower, well behind the cover?

 

ok...... I took it to my machanic, and everything is fine but just the gas panel underneith of the engine, which is tighten by a multiple bolts and one of those are loosen and the oil just leak through it.... no more leak now after the bolt is tighten.... thanks god...

 

I don't know if its true anymore, but in the past Honda oil pans were notoriously flimsy, and the threads for the oil pan bolt easily damaged.

There was an aluminum crush washer for the bolt that needed replacement each time it was removed. If they are still doing this, then you need to be sure you are following this procedure if doing your own service (or that non-dealer oil change outfits do it also). Jiffy lube destroyed the oil pan in my Integra and ended up having to pay it, all over a few cents worth of washers...

 

are you sure it's oil and not another fluid, i.e. coolant

 

Yea.... it has been check and confirmed by my machanic already.

I am start questioning about the quality of Honda even those made in Jap.....

 

Glad it was an easy fix. Now you can sit back and really enjoy the TSX.

 

what has your mechanic been doing?

 

He did not do nothing.... the leak just occured 2 mths after the last oil change he had done for me. When he checked and found out the losen bolts on the oil panel right the way and the leak stopped after he had tighten it.

 

This is why I bought one of these:

http://www.fumotovalve.com/

Works great...

 

JoeRockT,

Can you provide the part number for the fumoto drain valve. Did you have to get the adaptor due to the recessed oil pan as the site mentions. Looks like with the adaptor, it would hit the engine splash shield.

thanks

 

The adapter isnt necessary, even though it tells you its required. The only thing it touches is the splash shield, but thats only during connection. Here is the part you want:

http://www.quickoildrainvalve.com/Pr...oductCode=F106

 

Some people have used the drain valve and like it. However, Fumoto recommends adding a lock clip to the top of the valve to keep oil from accidentally draining due to road vibration.

 

Interesting, didnt see that. I really dont see how that lever would just "pop up" and turn just by vibrations. The spring seems pretty strong, and to turn it requires a bit of force as well...

Probably to appease the paranoid crowd...

 

Q. Will my Engine Oil Drain Valve open up while I am on the road?

A. No. In its closed position the Engine Oil Drain Valve extends from the oil pan only about one half inch more than a standard oil drain plug. The valve's simple but effective locking system requires two distinct actions to open it and its heavy-duty construction will withstand any engine vibration. Over 2,000,000 Engine Oil Drain Valves have been sold in the past eight years and no problems have been reported.

So where did you find that info, Jtso?

 

The potential valve failure has been brought up before and I saved the link to the image. The image is from Fumoto's own web site. I think It has to take some serious vibrations or some road debris to kick up and hit the valve lever. If the under plastic shield and the drain cover is installed, then it should be fine.

 

Sounds like it may be much ado about nothing. If the crush washer wasn't replaced and/or the drain plug not tightened properly, it can start to leak. When it does, it can take some time to reach the edge of the cover (like a month or more) when the oil then starts to actually fall to the garage floor or the street or whatever. Sounds like the mechanic finally figured this out.

 

The website indicates the valve lock is for tractors etc that work where brush, debris can contact the oil drain valve. I don't think it's for a vehicle used on the roads.

 

If a car runs over certain object and the object tumbles under the car (especially for a lowered car), there is a possibility that the drain valve can be lifted up. If combined with the forward motion of the car, the valve lever can turn. However, I don't think even the lock clip will help under such condition. Can such condition actually exist? Well, has anyone ever run over stuffs on the road and caused damage to the under carriage? I don't think the problem is a great concern providing the underbody plastic shield is installed though.

 

Seriously, the planets would have to be aligned for this to happen. They wouldnt keep selling them if this was commonplace.

 

That's true. There seems to be many happy customers of this product.

 

I just got this same problem right now.

I saw there were these oil drops on the garage floor today. So, I made an appointment to get the TSX checked out tomorrow. I got my oil change 1 month ago when the dealer changed the oil when I went in for me 50,000 mile service. This stinks, too many problems with a Japan made car.

 

Well... you smell more problem if the one is Canadian or American built....... the Japanese built one is already considered more reliable......

But in your case, hopefully just like mine and it is only the problem with a loosen bolt. Good Luck!