Brakes Warped, Need Help
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Acura TSX 2004 5AT
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Brakes Warped, Need Help
I get a vibration when I break at highway speeds. I did a search and read about the issue.
My issue is that the car has 61,000 miles and the dealer is probably not going to replace them.
Do I need to take this repair job to a dealer or can I get this done somewhere else? Thinking about resurfacing the rotors. Do I need to replace the pads as well?
Thx
My issue is that the car has 61,000 miles and the dealer is probably not going to replace them.
Do I need to take this repair job to a dealer or can I get this done somewhere else? Thinking about resurfacing the rotors. Do I need to replace the pads as well?
Thx
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You don't have to have it done at the dealership. Any good shop ought to be able to do it, and for less than the dealer would charge. If you're going to resurface the rotors then I would recommend you go with new pads. How old are your pads? If you've searched and read up on the issue then you know that the vibration is not always an indication of a warped rotor. It could be the brake pad material transferring onto the rotor. If you just recently had the pads changed then that could very well be what is happening.
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Also, consider replacing rather than resurfacing the rotors if they are near their wear limit.
My experience with Honda rotors in the past (especially in my Integra) has been they "warp" almost immediately after resurfacing, but I don't know about the one's in the TSX.
My experience with Honda rotors in the past (especially in my Integra) has been they "warp" almost immediately after resurfacing, but I don't know about the one's in the TSX.
At 61k, I'd just get new rotors.
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I remember constant talk about this back in my days on hpoa and po.com. The sad part is rarely do the rotors themselves warp as there have been countless articles showing its pad deposits on the rotor itself that causes it to have a high area..
if you are so inclined and have a good shop ask to see them check the rotor and there will most likely be an inclined area while the rest of the rotor is level.
but i also agree the price of new rotors atleast the basica ones at pep boys or dap isnt that pricey.. you should be able to turn the oem ones atleast once.. spending anymore than 10 bucks a rotor is a waste
if you are so inclined and have a good shop ask to see them check the rotor and there will most likely be an inclined area while the rest of the rotor is level.
but i also agree the price of new rotors atleast the basica ones at pep boys or dap isnt that pricey.. you should be able to turn the oem ones atleast once.. spending anymore than 10 bucks a rotor is a waste
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Originally Posted by Deepfreezed
Thx for the replies.
I don't know the last time they were changed. Bought the the car a Month ago at 59,000 miles.
changing the rotors and pads could get very expensive.
I don't know the last time they were changed. Bought the the car a Month ago at 59,000 miles.
changing the rotors and pads could get very expensive.
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Originally Posted by Infamous425
oem honda/acura rotors suck so you might as well replace them with aftermarket ones. check the group buy section
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It's not warped
The vibration is due to deposits from pads (especially the OE pads are known for this). I had the dealer change out the rotors at 27,000 miles for free. Vibration came back around 40,000 miles but the dealer refused to replace it or turn it for FREE. To get the rotors turned and replaced with new brake pads (front only) will cost $800 at the dealer (4 rotors turned and just the new front pads). I bought some Hawk brake-pads and it reduced the vibration significantly. Unfortunately, I still had little bit of vibration b\c I did not turn the rotors before putting on the new brake pads.So this time I am doing it right (56,000 miles on my TSX). New Brembo rotors and Akebono premium ceramic pads are being put on this weekend. If you are considering replacing , just spend the extra $$ and replace everything. New rotors cost about the same price as having your OE rotors "turned".
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from Jeff Palmer's review of the 2006 TSX
Originally Posted by Jeff Palmer
It's Time to Rethink the Brake Pads
One item that has escaped Acura's attention is the TSX's brakes. We're going to be brutally honest: the stock brake pads are pretty bad. The feel is okay, but they provide somewhat weak stopping power and are prone to overheating easily (particularly when slowing from freeway speeds). When they overheat, they tend to leave deposits on the rotors, which can lead to a very noticeable and irritating brake shudder. Many people misdiagnose this problem as rotor warpage, but as we proved on our own car, it's really the stock pads chubbing the rotors. It only took a few thousand miles for this problem to appear on our TSX project car, and these were very gentle miles. While the symptoms felt almost exactly like rotor warpage, we decided to swap out the stock pads for some more aggressive aftermarket pads, and the results were simply astounding. Without any rotor resurfacing, the brake shudder and wobble disappeared almost immediately, and within a few days of normal driving, all of the OEM pad deposits were wiped clean from the rotors. To this day, there has been absolutely no brake shudder and brake fade is a thing of the past. Even more impressively, the car has benefitted from a tremendous improvement in braking power. The only downside to this pad upgrade is that the new pads will squeak in very rare circumstances and they generate appreciably more brake dust than the stock pads. Otherwise they are one of the biggest "bang for the buck" modifications out there for the TSX and we highly recommend it. We installed Axxis Ultimates on our TSX, but similar results are likely with any number of other aftermarket fitments.
One item that has escaped Acura's attention is the TSX's brakes. We're going to be brutally honest: the stock brake pads are pretty bad. The feel is okay, but they provide somewhat weak stopping power and are prone to overheating easily (particularly when slowing from freeway speeds). When they overheat, they tend to leave deposits on the rotors, which can lead to a very noticeable and irritating brake shudder. Many people misdiagnose this problem as rotor warpage, but as we proved on our own car, it's really the stock pads chubbing the rotors. It only took a few thousand miles for this problem to appear on our TSX project car, and these were very gentle miles. While the symptoms felt almost exactly like rotor warpage, we decided to swap out the stock pads for some more aggressive aftermarket pads, and the results were simply astounding. Without any rotor resurfacing, the brake shudder and wobble disappeared almost immediately, and within a few days of normal driving, all of the OEM pad deposits were wiped clean from the rotors. To this day, there has been absolutely no brake shudder and brake fade is a thing of the past. Even more impressively, the car has benefitted from a tremendous improvement in braking power. The only downside to this pad upgrade is that the new pads will squeak in very rare circumstances and they generate appreciably more brake dust than the stock pads. Otherwise they are one of the biggest "bang for the buck" modifications out there for the TSX and we highly recommend it. We installed Axxis Ultimates on our TSX, but similar results are likely with any number of other aftermarket fitments.
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So, is there some consensus about which specific pads are a good compromise?
The replacement pads on my last car were Greenstuff pads with did pretty well, but I really don't know anything about them other than that one experience.
The replacement pads on my last car were Greenstuff pads with did pretty well, but I really don't know anything about them other than that one experience.
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Originally Posted by rb1
So, is there some consensus about which specific pads are a good compromise?
The replacement pads on my last car were Greenstuff pads with did pretty well, but I really don't know anything about them other than that one experience.
The replacement pads on my last car were Greenstuff pads with did pretty well, but I really don't know anything about them other than that one experience.
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