Toda Exhaust Manifold
#41
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
Originally Posted by itrhybrid
Has anyone looked into hytech (sp?) or SMS? I know they put out some nice headers for the TypeR when I had mine. They were on par with the Today headers as far as power gains but were slightly cheaper. Maybe I'll go try and find some information for them.
James
James
#42
Registered Schmegistered
iTrader: (1)
Originally Posted by JTso
Dave from SMS does some nice stuffs. I had my Civic custom resonated test pipe made by him. I might still have the contact info...
Honda-Tech thread
Titan thread
#43
Drifting
Originally Posted by itrhybrid
I've got a mail off to both SMS and Hytech asking about headers for our car. We'll see wha thte response is. I found a couple of threads on header shootouts with SMS, Toda and Hytech. Some of the pics still work and some don't. Pretty good write ups though.
Honda-Tech thread
Titan thread
Honda-Tech thread
Titan thread
#44
Registered Schmegistered
iTrader: (1)
Here is the response I got from Hytech:
And my response to them:
Thanks for the reply. Do you know when you will be at a point when you’ll be ready for dyno testing? I’d really be interested in seeing those results.
Regards,
James
James
We will have Hondata's TSX in here on Friday to do just what you asked. Keep in touch as to when they will be available.
John
We will have Hondata's TSX in here on Friday to do just what you asked. Keep in touch as to when they will be available.
John
And my response to them:
Thanks for the reply. Do you know when you will be at a point when you’ll be ready for dyno testing? I’d really be interested in seeing those results.
Regards,
James
#45
Registered Schmegistered
iTrader: (1)
Originally Posted by itrhybrid
Here is the response I got from Hytech:
And my response to them:
Thanks for the reply. Do you know when you will be at a point when you’ll be ready for dyno testing? I’d really be interested in seeing those results.
Regards,
James
And my response to them:
Thanks for the reply. Do you know when you will be at a point when you’ll be ready for dyno testing? I’d really be interested in seeing those results.
Regards,
James
James
It will take a few weeks to do the prototype system. Then Doug at Hondata will do the dyno testing and tuning.
John
#48
Registered Schmegistered
iTrader: (1)
Originally Posted by hondatypes
quick question, since its a prototype right...what are the chances that this header might back fire down the road. As far as welding..etc.. goes!!!
James
EDIT: Wait, are you talking about the Toda or Hytech?
#49
Registered Schmegistered
iTrader: (1)
OK got a semi response from SMS. Here is the mail thread I have with them so far.
Start at the bottom of the mail thread obvioulsy.....
Start at the bottom of the mail thread obvioulsy.....
No, but we have a few thousand members of the TSX board. I’m sure if you checked on the board for anyone that was interested, you could find a test car. I’m a member of the Acura TSX community on Acurazine.
https://acurazine.com/
There is a thread in there about the Toda header that was under development. I asked if anyone had looked into the SMS or Hytech header. No one had so I started researching here. You should pop in to the board if you have not already. You could get a ton of feedback from TSX owners.
Thank you for your response.
Regards,
James
James Boyer
Network Engineer
Holland America Line Inc.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: SMS Products [mailto:smsproducts@adelphia.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:09 AM
To: Boyer, James (HAL)
Subject: Re: Headers for 2004+ TSX
are you local?
David Stadulis
SMS Products
4747 Ewell Road
Fredericksburg, VA 22408
540-287-6384
----- Original Message -----
From: Boyer, James (HAL)
To: SMS Products
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: Headers for 2004+ TSX
Sorry, but do you have any more information than that? A timeframe for development or dyno testing? Do you have a test car?
Thanks,
James
James Boyer
Network Engineer
Holland America Line Inc.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: SMS Products [mailto:smsproducts@adelphia.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:28 PM
To: Boyer, James (HAL)
Subject: Re: Headers for 2004+ TSX
Still working on one
David Stadulis
SMS Products
4747 Ewell Road
Fredericksburg, VA 22408
540-287-6384
https://acurazine.com/
There is a thread in there about the Toda header that was under development. I asked if anyone had looked into the SMS or Hytech header. No one had so I started researching here. You should pop in to the board if you have not already. You could get a ton of feedback from TSX owners.
Thank you for your response.
Regards,
James
James Boyer
Network Engineer
Holland America Line Inc.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: SMS Products [mailto:smsproducts@adelphia.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 8:09 AM
To: Boyer, James (HAL)
Subject: Re: Headers for 2004+ TSX
are you local?
David Stadulis
SMS Products
4747 Ewell Road
Fredericksburg, VA 22408
540-287-6384
----- Original Message -----
From: Boyer, James (HAL)
To: SMS Products
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: RE: Headers for 2004+ TSX
Sorry, but do you have any more information than that? A timeframe for development or dyno testing? Do you have a test car?
Thanks,
James
James Boyer
Network Engineer
Holland America Line Inc.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: SMS Products [mailto:smsproducts@adelphia.net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:28 PM
To: Boyer, James (HAL)
Subject: Re: Headers for 2004+ TSX
Still working on one
David Stadulis
SMS Products
4747 Ewell Road
Fredericksburg, VA 22408
540-287-6384
#50
Originally Posted by itrhybrid
OK got a semi response from SMS. Here is the mail thread I have with them so far.
Start at the bottom of the mail thread obvioulsy.....
Start at the bottom of the mail thread obvioulsy.....
xizor!!! scissor!!!
:troutslap
#51
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (2)
Originally Posted by itrhybrid
OK got a semi response from SMS. Here is the mail thread I have with them so far.
Start at the bottom of the mail thread obvioulsy.....
Start at the bottom of the mail thread obvioulsy.....
#52
Registered Schmegistered
iTrader: (1)
We have a winner
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24806
So SMS is in the game now!!! Someone needs to jump on this. I would but I'm on the opposite coast
So SMS is in the game now!!! Someone needs to jump on this. I would but I'm on the opposite coast
#53
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,599
Received 3,799 Likes
on
2,559 Posts
Originally Posted by itrhybrid
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24806
So SMS is in the game now!!! Someone needs to jump on this. I would but I'm on the opposite coast
So SMS is in the game now!!! Someone needs to jump on this. I would but I'm on the opposite coast
#54
Bye TSX, hello domestic?
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: NOVA
Age: 42
Posts: 8,552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by dzuy
xizor!!! scissor!!!
:troutslap
:troutslap
#56
Drives With Hands
Originally Posted by jmathew34
If you and your forum members are interested, we can run a small production batch of the TSX exhaust manifold that Hondata used in their testing. We would need a minimum of 10 confirmed buyers, and delivery time would be approximately 3 months as these would be hand built in Japan. The price would be $1,200, plus shipping. Please note that all orders would need to be placed with us directly. As this is a small custom batch, orders cannot be placed through our dealers. We need a minimum of 10 pre-paid orders.
#57
Drifting
Originally Posted by rmpage
Any word on this?
#59
10th Gear
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sunalnd, Ca.
Age: 46
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Any update here?
Is there a formal list going? If so... count me in. What I pose to the moderators is a favor to us desperate ones seeking the minnimum number of 10 folk to go in on this buy. Lets say... post a list as a sticky for a few weeks to get this some attention... see if we can't hit that magic number.
Here is the email that spawned this search for this thread...
12/05/2005
Hello,
Thank you for your e-mail and interest in TODA Racing. We don't have any
plans to produce the CL9 (TSX) exhaust manifold. A prototype was made for
the Japanese CL9, and it was successfully test fitted on the American TSX.
It's a 2 piece system that comes with a CAT delete pipe. There are no plans
to go into production with this product due to the high estimated price
($1,300) and very low demand for a product in that price range.
We can do a small production run for serious buyers, but we'd need a minimum
of 10 customers who are willing to pay in advance and wait for a 3 month
production.
Best regards,
TODA Racing USA/AKH Trading
Is there a formal list going? If so... count me in. What I pose to the moderators is a favor to us desperate ones seeking the minnimum number of 10 folk to go in on this buy. Lets say... post a list as a sticky for a few weeks to get this some attention... see if we can't hit that magic number.
Here is the email that spawned this search for this thread...
12/05/2005
Hello,
Thank you for your e-mail and interest in TODA Racing. We don't have any
plans to produce the CL9 (TSX) exhaust manifold. A prototype was made for
the Japanese CL9, and it was successfully test fitted on the American TSX.
It's a 2 piece system that comes with a CAT delete pipe. There are no plans
to go into production with this product due to the high estimated price
($1,300) and very low demand for a product in that price range.
We can do a small production run for serious buyers, but we'd need a minimum
of 10 customers who are willing to pay in advance and wait for a 3 month
production.
Best regards,
TODA Racing USA/AKH Trading
#61
Drifting
Originally Posted by Benz_05_TSX
I thought the group buy was over long time ago......
didn't 10 people already applied?
didn't 10 people already applied?
#64
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,599
Received 3,799 Likes
on
2,559 Posts
Once I get a car for school and a job and enough money to buy this I am in.
#65
10th Gear
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Sunalnd, Ca.
Age: 46
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
Once I get a car for school and a job and enough money to buy this I am in.
I wish there was a way to get the attention of every TSX owner for just 30 seconds. 10 is a very small number compared to the total number of TSX owners out there.
#66
Not everyone will spend $1300 on a header when there are cheaper alternative out there that would probably make almost as much power. And on top of that, you have to buy an aftermarket cat for it. So that is $1500 spend on a header that may be make 5 more whp than a $300 DC one. The real baller will get it, but for most ppl, they may not want to spend the $1200 for the extra 5whp and the Toda name.
#68
If anyone is thinking about getting the toda header give my guy a call
718 631 4001 ask for Robert or check out their website Fizzautosports.com I ordered mine and it's coming soon.
718 631 4001 ask for Robert or check out their website Fizzautosports.com I ordered mine and it's coming soon.
#69
Drifting
Originally Posted by shadowlegz
If anyone is thinking about getting the toda header give my guy a call
718 631 4001 ask for Robert or check out their website Fizzautosports.com I ordered mine and it's coming soon.
718 631 4001 ask for Robert or check out their website Fizzautosports.com I ordered mine and it's coming soon.
sorry for all the questions it's just that myself and others have been in touch with toda and hondata(they have the 1 and only test header for the tsx) and it seems pretty tough to get the header.
#70
The header i got is made for the CL 7 and it $1500 for it i had to buy the JDM euro r cat to have this fit on the tsx. Reason i bought the cat is both the O2 sensor bugs are on the cat. There are no o2 sensor bug on the header.
#71
Drifting
Originally Posted by shadowlegz
The header i got is made for the CL 7 and it $1500 for it i had to buy the JDM euro r cat to have this fit on the tsx. Reason i bought the cat is both the O2 sensor bugs are on the cat. There are no o2 sensor bug on the header.
#73
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,599
Received 3,799 Likes
on
2,559 Posts
Originally Posted by shadowlegz
They told me i should be getting the header in 2 weeks and the cat cost me $650. I will post pix once i have it
#75
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,599
Received 3,799 Likes
on
2,559 Posts
Originally Posted by Tsx536
Make sure to take lots of pics when you get it. You'll be the first one in the US besides Hondata that I've heard with the headers and cat.
#76
Burning Brakes
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Queensland, Australia
Age: 37
Posts: 991
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
cccolts, i'm tossing up between the toda and mugen headers atm too... i want the one that will give the most gains. after seeing the design of both i think mugen may actually be quite good.
#77
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,599
Received 3,799 Likes
on
2,559 Posts
Originally Posted by Chris_F
cccolts, i'm tossing up between the toda and mugen headers atm too... i want the one that will give the most gains. after seeing the design of both i think mugen may actually be quite good.
#78
Burning Brakes
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Queensland, Australia
Age: 37
Posts: 991
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
yep... now it's just a matter of finding some dynos ... or at least finding more out about their design. The inclusion of a high flow cat on the mugen is winning me over atm, but then again i think the toda may be cheaper? i'm finding out mugen pricing from my local car shop atm
#79
Moderator
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Regional Coordinator (Southeast)
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Mooresville, NC
Age: 38
Posts: 43,599
Received 3,799 Likes
on
2,559 Posts
Originally Posted by Chris_F
yep... now it's just a matter of finding some dynos ... or at least finding more out about their design. The inclusion of a high flow cat on the mugen is winning me over atm, but then again i think the toda may be cheaper? i'm finding out mugen pricing from my local car shop atm
#80
Burning Brakes
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Queensland, Australia
Age: 37
Posts: 991
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
let me know the pricing when you do.
on a side note i just found a mugen cat back exhaust for sale locally (in Queensland) and it's only gona cost me AUD$1300! tastey